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santana Icon : (16 August 2014 - 11:55 PM) http://gfycat.com/Mi...idHookersealion
santana Icon : (16 August 2014 - 11:55 PM) Gotta fix that
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:35 PM) Is anyone else as concerned as I am about the secondary?
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:36 PM) I know it's preseason and all but even with Milliner in on the first game we gave up a TD on the first drive to the Colts
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:37 PM) Patterson looked like me out there and Wilson got torched last night
Smedsthejet Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:26 PM) Concerned about the right side of the OLine too - too many penalties and Giacomini wasn't that much better than against the Colts when he was poor
SackExchange71 Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:31 PM) Imo i still think howard is better then giacomini..Wish they never let him walk.Giacomini had alot of flags in seattle also
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:33 AM) Howard recieved a huge contract in Oakland. Way over his actual value.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 10:08 AM) So did we make a trade for a CB yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
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azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
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This Is Vilma's Last Stand With The Jets if he doesn't improve

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Posted 04 May 2007 - 10:53 AM

Hobson is in the last year of his contract, and the Jets have to decide to go with a Wolverine tandem at linebacker(Hobson and Harris) or retain Vilma(who will demand a large contract in the coming years), and team him up with Harris.


Victor Hobson is not an OLB in the 3-4 defense.. plain and simple. He is too slow and too small. Hobson however, does have ideal size to play the ILB in the 3-4.
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Posted 04 May 2007 - 11:50 AM

So why exactly cant Vilma be an outside LB? And also ..he didnt look slow when he was getting all those QB pressures.
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Posted 04 May 2007 - 12:09 PM

QUOTE (Pennington @ May 4 2007, 12:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So why exactly cant Vilma be an outside LB? And also ..he didnt look slow when he was getting all those QB pressures.


Because Vilma is too small to play OLB, he'd get pancaked every time. He has trouble enough getting in the backfield with Robertson in front of him, (not that Robertson is a great NT) he'd never see the backfield if he has no one in front of him. Hobson should be moved inside, he'd be much better off.
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Posted 04 May 2007 - 12:14 PM

So in other words you are saying he is too small to play inside backer and too small to play outside backer...

Interesting
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Posted 05 May 2007 - 06:58 PM

QUOTE (EvanstonJet @ May 4 2007, 11:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hobson is in the last year of his contract, and the Jets have to decide to go with a Wolverine tandem at linebacker(Hobson and Harris) or retain Vilma(who will demand a large contract in the coming years), and team him up with Harris.


Victor Hobson is not an OLB in the 3-4 defense.. plain and simple. He is too slow and too small. Hobson however, does have ideal size to play the ILB in the 3-4.

Jets would be fools if they dont retain vilma he is an impact player, didnt have a year like rookie year because he was playing out of position now with harris they could put vilma back at weak side lb, expect a big year for the Vman. vilma and kerry rhodes are the foundation of jets defense, take one away it all crumbles down. vilma will be signed during season , mangini ia a genius, we should just call him mangenius.

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Posted 05 May 2007 - 07:07 PM

QUOTE (theanalogkid @ May 4 2007, 01:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Because Vilma is too small to play OLB, he'd get pancaked every time. He has trouble enough getting in the backfield with Robertson in front of him, (not that Robertson is a great NT) he'd never see the backfield if he has no one in front of him. Hobson should be moved inside, he'd be much better off.



if anything hobson is the one that should go not vilma, only thing i doubt any team is interested in hobson, now vilma everyteam would want him on team, hes a gamer did u even watch his rookie year, he will get the 3-4 down, hes a film hawk he watches alot of film with kerry rhodes and thats what makes him the Vman. all pro year and a ring for Vima and company. now with D. Revis jets are gonna be a force to contend with. running backs and offenses are gonna have nightmares the night be4 gameday, just thinking about harris &vilma in the middle. dam scairy isnt it.
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Posted 07 May 2007 - 11:41 AM

QUOTE (Pennington @ May 4 2007, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So in other words you are saying he is too small to play inside backer and too small to play outside backer...

Interesting


Yeah enteresting , defensive rookie of the year, 113 tackles in a new 3-4 scheme and D Rob in front of him , led jets in tackles both of his profesional years , but according to you he's too small , thats a very interesting concept, makes you wonder how knoledgable some people are about about the nfl.
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Posted 07 May 2007 - 12:39 PM

Closing...Evanston's suspended for 2 weeks so it doesn't make any sense to get into debates over threads like this.
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