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SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 03:21 PM) You're not in NY. All the backpages are focused on Sanchez
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 03:21 PM) None of the NY media even mention Cruz or Nicks
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:40 PM) nicks isn't holding out. he's injured still and taking it easy. cruz is holding out. why it isn't a big ordeal IDK. it would be for us
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:02 PM) maybe because theyre not that far off.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:02 PM) Cruz wants to return back, they'll figure it out.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:41 PM) 3 mil a year off or 30% less then cruz wants. tahst alot of money to be off
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:41 PM) cruz doens't want to leave NY cause teh extra money he'll get in endorsements plus he knows taht they can RFA him this year and then Franchise next year so he might not be able to get a LTD for 3 years
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 05:21 PM) Clemens11/Tebow15 (soon to be Smith7) said if we had just drafted Crabtree and Nicks and kept Clemens, we'd be good.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:44 PM) No, he can't be Smith7
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:44 PM) his name is reserved for garbage QBs, we don't want Geno to be bad
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:44 PM) He can be McElroy14
extmenace Icon : (Yesterday, 06:51 PM) we're taking bridgewater next year with the number 1 pick and treating geno like a jimmy clausen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:53 PM) What makes Bridgewater better than Geno?
HurricaneJet32 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:12 PM) everything
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:56 PM) ^
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:16 PM) college players always get hyped up before the draft process, just wondering what makes him so much better.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:19 PM) Stronger arm, plays in a pro system, better throwing motion, better athlete
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:19 PM) there's probably nothing Geno does right now that's better than what Teddy does
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 10:25 PM) Wouldn't it be funny with Bridgewater ends up having the type of season Barkley had?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 07:48 AM) better athlete but never runs as well
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 07:48 AM) stronger arm but rarely throws deep
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 07:48 AM) I am trying to find this article, but Bridgewater had about the least amount of 40+ throws in college football
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 07:49 AM) I wouldn't surprise me if he wasn't viewed as highly next year. College players always get hyped up a year before the draft process. People change their opinions quickly.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 07:56 AM) I'll put a good amount of money that Bridgewater is still highly regarded coming out next year.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 08:00 AM) ok I found the chart
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 08:00 AM) Bridgewater had 0% of his passes go 40+ yards in college
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 08:02 AM) he could be, I'll wait though
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 08:02 AM) I doubt Smith will be as bad as Clausen anyways
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 08:03 AM) I remember watching Clausen in a NFL game and the guy couldn't even throw a spiral.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 08:03 AM) Geno has been impressing teammates with how well he can spin the ball and sling it.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 08:31 AM) I hope Geno turns out to be a f***ing monster
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 10:52 AM) andrew luck was hyped up for like 3 years before he entered teh draft
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 11:34 AM) tehhhh
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 11:37 AM) it wasn't for 3 years and Andrew Luck is the best QB prospect to come out in years. Teddy Bridgewater most likely isn't Luck or RGIII
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 11:40 AM) I've only seen Bridgewater play once. That was against Florida, I actually watched that game.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 12:12 PM) Teddy will be a good NFL QB I think
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 12:52 PM) THE KNICKS
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 01:21 PM) THE. KNICKS.
SecondHandJets Icon : (Today, 02:43 PM) Geno was the favorite to win the Heisman this time last year
SecondHandJets Icon : (Today, 02:44 PM) He was also a Top 5 pick this time last year
SecondHandJets Icon : (Today, 02:44 PM) If he came out in 2012, he might have gotten drafted before RG3
SecondHandJets Icon : (Today, 02:56 PM) TEH KNICKS
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 03:25 PM) noway he would have been drafted before RGIII
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 04:00 PM) Tehhhh
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 04:12 PM) chuck norris said tebow is a great QB. i'm so conflicted becuase tebow sucks but on the other hand if chuck norris said it, it must be true lol
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Posted 09 May 2007 - 06:16 PM

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May 8, 2007) -- The 2007 NFL Draft is history and about half of the 32 teams have had their post-draft minicamp. There are great expectations about the young players selected, and while it is time for a little dreaming about what might be down the road, I thought we should look back in order to foresee the future. Wide receiver was a very popular position in the first round this year, so let's start there.

Six wide receivers were selected in the first round, and from the Lions taking the "best player in the draft" in Calvin Johnson to Miami picking the slightly injured Ted Ginn, every team felt it got a great player. Dwayne Bowe in Kansas City, Robert Meachem in New Orleans, Craig Davis in San Diego and Anthony Gonzalez in Indianapolis are all creating a buzz, but history says they have a rough road ahead of them.

The Dolphins hope Ted Ginn will live up to his draft position.
The Dolphins hope Ted Ginn will live up to his draft position.
From 2000 to 2006, there were 31 wide receivers selected in the first round and history says plenty about what to believe is going to happen to the Class of 2007. The first reality is that the receivers have precious few years to deliver or they will be gone. They may get another chance or two down the road, but the team that drafted them will move on quickly if they struggle. Keep in mind that the six teams this year will spend close to $50 million on these players, but is it money well spent? What are the chances of seeing a return on their investment?

From 2003 back to 2000, only three of the 17 receivers drafted in the first round are still with the team that drafted them. Andre Johnson (Houston), Bryant Johnson (Arizona) and Reggie Wayne (Indianapolis) still collect a paycheck from the team that had so many wonderful things to say about them in the days following their selection.

Here is the list of first-round wide receivers from 2000-2005 that are no longer with the team that drafted them. It's not a pretty group and provides a sobering reality check about what may lay ahead for the Class of 2007. Some are still playing and a few are starting, but not where they were selected.
2000: Peter Warrick, Travis Taylor, Sylvester Morris, R.J. Soward, Plaxico Burress
2001: David Terrell, Koren Robinson, Rod Gardner, Freddie Mitchell, Santana Moss
2002: Donte' Stallworth, Ashley Lelie, Javon Walker
2003: Charles Rogers
2004: Rashaun Woods
2005: Mike Williams

This is a big year for a number of receivers from 2004 and 2005 who really have to take a big jump or they will be the next wave of victims. The teams are already bringing in competition for them. Troy Williamson struggles to catch the ball in Minnesota, so the Vikings selected Sidney Rice in the second round. Roddy White and Michael Jenkins have a new coach with the Falcons, who signed Joe Horn and drafted Laurent Robinson in the third round.

I give the Lions a lot of credit for not looking back at the Mike Williams and Charles Rogers selections and taking Calvin Johnson. If they're right about Johnson and he's a great player, they are set for a long time. As bad as the picture looks for wide receivers, the first round of the 2000-2006 draft's also produced Larry Fitzgerald, Roy Williams, Andre Johnson and Reggie Wayne. Recent history says there is a 13 percent chance of drafting a great player at the wide receiver position in the first round and having him on your roster. But history also says there's a 26 percent chance a first-round wide receiver will be out of football in the next six years.

Finally, it takes time to train a wide receiver. Route running needs to be developed and learning to release off the line versus press coverage, recognizing coverages, and the ability to catch the ball all take time. But do teams have the time? There's no chance all six teams that took a wide receiver this year will wait for their prize pupil to make it on their roster. If they do shine in the next few years, they will want more money than most teams are willing to spend to keep them. Javon Walker got out of Green Bay, Plaxico Burress bolted from Pittsburgh and Santana Moss was traded from the Jets.

Here's the survival rate over the past six years for first-round receivers that are still with the team that drafted them.
2006: 100 percent (1 of 1)
2005: 83 percent (5 of 6)
2004: 86 percent (6 of 7)
2003: 66 percent (2 of 3)
2002: 0 percent (0 of 3)
2001: 17 percent (1 of 6)
2000: 0 percent (0 of 5)



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Posted 09 May 2007 - 07:39 PM

Santana Moss, Javon Walker, and Plaxico Burress are guys who actually lived up to that 1st round tag....stallworth would be okay if he was a 3rd rounder....ashlie lelie and travis taylor are bumbs.....the rest of those guys are hitting that classified section hard



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