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Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:37 PM) Corey Ivy CB
36 Jim Leonhard SS/PR
43 Haruki Nakamura FS
25 Evan Oglesby CB
20 Ed Reed FS
22 Samari Rolle CB
39 Daren Stone FS
41 Frank Walker CB
31 Fabian Washington in 2008
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (20 August 2014 - 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The JETS are #6 in the Forbes List for most franchise value
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The Buffalo Jills are #31 and the Miami Dolphags are #16 respectively
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 07:00 PM) The JETS are worth $1.8 billion
jet-man Icon : (20 August 2014 - 10:03 PM) that's less than the clippers
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:07 PM) I'm very excited with the amount of preseason touchdowns the Jets have
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:21 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:22 PM) Calvin Pryor and Darrin Walls will start tomorrow
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:52 PM) The SIMPSONS MARATHON has been on for almost 12 hours...
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:57 PM) Sanchez looks so much more confident and better in Chip's offense than he did with us
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:50 PM) EVERY SIMPSONS EVER!!!!!
2JBallar01 Icon : (Today, 07:10 AM) Sanchez is looking good for the eagles. Crazy how a good offense and the right system can make you look so much better. When you're put into a situatuon to succeed, magic happens. Happy for Sanchez, i think he needed a change just as much as the Jets did.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 08:02 AM) Preseason doesn't matter at all
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 11:10 AM) anyone have a stream for the preseaosn agme by chance?
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Posted 22 August 2007 - 03:29 AM

Ok....so i think i am really starting to hate 08'. The game play is supposed to be realistic i guess...but maybe its me but every game i play no one rushes for over 40-50 yards unless the running back makes a crazy ass play and dodges 6 tacklers. and most people i play just abandon the run game all together after the 1st quarter... in 07 i took great pride in the game with my ability to run the ball but in this game is is nearly impossible to rush effectivly. i mean i had nearly 300 games and was averaging about a buck 35...but in 08' you cant run to the outside unless you do a sweep and if it dosent happen to work on that given play u lose 5 yards. cant run through the middle...well because it just dosent work. counters do not work and it drives me crazy...stopping the run is to damn easy.

Now as far as madden has always gone for me i have never been an amazing passer but i was effective enough...But in 08' unless your guy is wide open it seems that a corner (and even a shitty one at that) will jump a route every freaking time. And also i played with teams with good lines to teams with decent lines and no matter the cause....the d-linemen get through every god damn time....

granted ive played about 25 games so far and i probably have won about 18 of them but i cant blow anyone out. When i win the score is 14-3, 16-10 and etc....I mean its obvious some people have really grasped the passing game...but i just dont understand why im so bad at it...last years game i never had to throw more than 15 times...and my completion % was high...and running wasnt easy but if you knew how to run like i could...you could control the game.

and red zone scoring seems to be nearly impossible...ive never kicked as many feild goals in any other previous maddens than i have in 08....ive won games by kicking only feild goals...

i know that as time goes on ill probably figure things out....i mean last years madden when i first started playing the only problem i had was i thought it was impossible to stop the run. and as i played i figured it out...but in this years the biggest problem i have is the running...i just dont see myself improving...and i cant see myself ever playing anyone who will be able to run the ball effectivly...

anyone else not liking this game all that much? (although i will still play this game until 09' comes out as i did with 07')

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Posted 22 August 2007 - 03:38 AM

what difficulty you play on
cause if its anything less then all madden then im sorry you just arent good and if it is then turn it down





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Posted 22 August 2007 - 05:47 AM

I have no problem running the ball at all. I mean I'm only averaging 4-5 a run with the occasional squirt for 10 up the gut. You can't expect to get a 15-20 yrd run every play which I like. maybe your just playing some blitz heavy opponents or your getting to old and the reaction time is out the window. I actually find the passing game a lot harder this year as it appears they finally stepped up the AI coverage. A lot motre Ints against and for my D as they don't just swat every ball down.
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Posted 22 August 2007 - 10:04 AM

I had a 6 interception game with Pennington last night. I'm not liking the "realism" EA is trying to incorporate. I'm talking fumble after fumble, INT after INT. My CPU controlled defense plays lazily. Ronnie Brown ran a sweep on me for like 8 or 9 yards. Erik Coleman is just lingering 15 yards up and takes forever to run up and try and make the play.

Blitzes have worked fairly well for me. The CPU QB, however, manages to throw passes off his backfoot more often than me though. Accurate ones at that.

Running isn't as difficult for me. I've managed to let go of my dependency on the highlight stick. Thomas Jones does manage to break a few. I've had a couple 100 yard games.. a 200 yard game once.

I do appreciate the closer score games in the end. But I'd prefer more swatted balls than INTs.
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Posted 22 August 2007 - 10:25 AM

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what difficulty you play on
cause if its anything less then all madden then im sorry you just arent good and if it is then turn it down


I do not normally waste my time playing the computer at all...no franchises no "play now" games...i play madden for the online play and i have been playing madden for YEARS. id say im pretty decent and as far as playing freinds and what not...i do not lose to them. online is a different story...and after i got my xbox fixed last year i was winning 2/3's of my games...now I agree about the fumbles as well...I played last night which actually caused me to write that little rant and i had at least 3 or 4 fumbles (all after gaining a first down)....losing 2 or 3 of them...and after i make catches i do not spin or use the highlight stick...i take what i can get and that is that...but my recievers continue to fumble anyways....ive been using the bengals because of this little madden leauge we have here and rudi is always good for one or 2 fumbles as well....last years madden i almost never ever turned the ball over....and when i did it was a fumble or someone who made a great user pick...this year the majority of my games i have at least 3...the ints are a little crazy....i have to admit....because i so rarley threw a bad ball i was all about the ints for this season...but the game is only played with 5 min quarters and ive realized that although alot of the swatted balls were frusturating....it made the game better. now bum corners jump routes like they are champ baily. my games are close...but i have yet to have a game where the score is 35-31 or even higher....it just seems that offense is just a little difficult....like i said earlier...aside from 2 or 3 games...the scores to my games are 13-10, 10-3 and etc...

im just happy i picked up how to play defense right away or i might truely hate this game lol...

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Posted 22 August 2007 - 01:03 PM

Wow, you cant compare this game to last years game. Last years game was the worst ever. All you had to do was throw the ball downfield and its a catch every time. This year the CBs can actually cover. Now you expecting to break big runs every time is stupid, thats football running the ball for 3 to 4 yards a carry and also losing yards on a run. Most of the people that play madden are geeks and fags so they expect to break a big run out every time so when they dont they abandon it and start passing, because they dont care about the realistic aspect of the game they just want arcady big plays and gamer points. I think its difficult to run for 100 yards online unless you break a big one because its only like 4 to 5 min quarters. A real football game is 15 min quarters, so thats why its harder to run because the game isnt as long.
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Posted 22 August 2007 - 02:14 PM

Ok. First off last year the run game was WAY to easy. People were running out of the goaline set last year for all 4 quarters. It was horrible and 08 aien't perfect but why can't you have a vertical passing game using the Bengals? You passing game must really weak.

These are my tips-

For versing an online opponent


- If your getting blitzed hard up the middle (nano blitzing). Run your scheme out of the shotgun
- If your getting nano'd and facing bump and run coverage, come out in shotgun plays with drag routes (I suggest the RUN N GUN playbook)
- If you want to run the ball and your facing a nano blitzer whos blitzing hard up the middle call pitches and sweeps
- If you feel you must pass from under center when being nano'd, P.A bootleg,Waggles and rollouts seem to nullify the blitz.
- If you want to counter heavy blitzers call screen passes, IE: WR screens( Note: do not throw the screen pass against a lockdown corner especially in man coverage) The WR screen works best when facing zone. Screen plays will eat the blitz pressure for breakfast. Hit up practice mode. Thatswhere I do all my cooking. : )

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Posted 22 August 2007 - 02:20 PM

You want help with madden go here ----> http://www.vgsportsi...orums/index.php
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Posted 22 August 2007 - 03:10 PM

QUOTE (S-Dubb @ Aug 22 2007, 02:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok. First off last year the run game was WAY to easy. People were running out of the goaline set last year for all 4 quarters. It was horrible and 08 aien't perfect but why can't you have a vertical passing game using the Bengals? You passing game must really weak.

These are my tips-

For versing an online opponent
- If your getting blitzed hard up the middle (nano blitzing). Run your scheme out of the shotgun
- If your getting nano'd and facing bump and run coverage, come out in shotgun plays with drag routes (I suggest the RUN N GUN playbook)
- If you want to run the ball and your facing a nano blitzer whos blitzing hard up the middle call pitches and sweeps
- If you feel you must pass from under center when being nano'd, P.A bootleg,Waggles and rollouts seem to nullify the blitz.
- If you want to counter heavy blitzers call screen passes, IE: WR screens( Note: do not throw the screen pass against a lockdown corner especially in man coverage) The WR screen works best when facing zone. Screen plays will eat the blitz pressure for breakfast. Hit up practice mode. Thatswhere I do all my cooking. : )

Peace!

Thats exactly want i been doing since the game been out. I only use the Jets when I play and i run a shotgun formation the whole time using the Jets playbook to (if they blitz) and im not throwin alot of interceptions or fumbles. You just gotta do short and quick routes when you play and gain 4-10 yards at a time.
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Posted 22 August 2007 - 07:17 PM

Yea unfortunatly...ive been using the west coast playbook for the last 4 editions of madden...which dosent have a shotgun...i never really thought about it but maybe its just time to try a new playbook. and as far as running game last season...it was impossible to run on me and i never ran out of goal line.. and ive never been a homerun hitter in madden...all my drives took clock and consisted of a number of plays....but yea running 3 and 4 yards would be fine....but it just dosent seem to work. And my favorite running play...which was a double te set with 1 reciver counter is a dead play. and running up the middle in general is not very effective. it WILL not work... running wouldnt be a problem with me if i was able to pick 3 and 4 yards up at a time....i either gain 1 yard or i lose 3....i guess if others are able to run...it must be me and ill have to work on it...ill try some of the info offered here...ill figure it out lol...

the last game i played i notcied that play-actions actually work (last year they didnt work all that great so i rarely used them)....ill get used to it...but i guess ill have to screw around and find a new playbook...new style game will have to make me play a new style...thanks for the info guys

oh yea and for the record...yes my passing game is weak which is why im bitching lol...ill have it figured out in a couple days...

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Posted 22 August 2007 - 10:33 PM

QUOTE (Amen @ Aug 23 2007, 12:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I had a 6 interception game with Pennington last night. I'm not liking the "realism" EA is trying to incorporate. I'm talking fumble after fumble, INT after INT. My CPU controlled defense plays lazily. Ronnie Brown ran a sweep on me for like 8 or 9 yards. Erik Coleman is just lingering 15 yards up and takes forever to run up and try and make the play.


Gotta use your throw away and tuck ball functions. I rarely throw picks and have only fuumbled twice in six games. Honestly now that I think about it the only time I ahve thrown picks is when I try and force a pass to avoid a sack.
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Posted 23 August 2007 - 08:10 AM

i've played about 5 games (2 with the jets in franchise mode) and 3 games against my friend (using rams, bengals, and eagles)

the 1st game i played i really didn't like it , it was with the jets in franchise mode i got spanked like 61 to 14. i didn't even know the buttons (i thought A was speed burst still lol) dind't know u can use the vision cone. etc. the run game was horrible and unrealistic and the pass game seemed slower then it should be. anyway since its the only NFL game and i payed 60 bucks for it i was determined to keep trying the game. anyway i read teh book so i would know the buttons and haven't lost a game yet. i shut my friend out 2 games in a row (and won all 3) and rackd up scores of 21 34 and 49 points 9a little more realistic then the 80 points i used to rack up in madden) i thought there were alot of imrpovmenets and disappointments in the game.
improvements
1 the DBs seem smarter and more realistic. they play the ball and knock it down, they don't jump 80 feet in the air and break up a pass that no way they should be able too and they also don't sit around and watch the ball go over there head
2 the RBs don't get stuck on lineman anymore. instead there are smooth animations as teh squeeze through
3 the pass agme is tougher but still fun and more realistic then previous years

disappoinments
1 ball physics. still badly messed up. i threw a pick one game cause i thrw the ball and the defnese tipped it, then it bounced up and got "stuck" on a defenders back and a defender behind him (after about 2 or 3 seconds) scooped the ball up off his teamtaes back. the ball should have dropped to the ground for an incompletion
2 kicking game. it seems every kicker kicks TBs every kick off, also i had an accurate kicker for a 46 yard FG and hit it with full power and perfect accuracy and thouugh i nailed it, but then the ball hooked to the left last minute. i was pissed. huge inconsistincies if my kicker kicks it 8 yards deep in the end zone on a KO but can't hit a 46 yarder?
3 run game - is horrible. i wen't over 100 yards in 1 game out of my 5 games. and the time i did was cause i busted a 60 yard run on 1 play. my other 40 yards were on like 20 rushes. the numbers looked good (21 carries 100+ yards) but really it wasn't. usually i'm averaging 3 YPC. its liek either u get blown up in the backfield , caught by lineman on sweeps, or bust a big play. i don't get it. its more realitic then last years madden where i rand for 500 yards in 1 game with chris brown on 42 carries but i mean come on, are u serious?


anyway i'll post a full fledged review after i log more time with the game. i urge everyone here to do the same
Get it done MT
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Posted 27 August 2007 - 07:47 AM

I've started a Hall of Fame career game.

Good news, the coaches are quite pleased with my performace.
Bad news, Nugent can't kick field goals over 40 yards!
Keep the NY in NY Jets


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