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ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:26 PM) we need to cut this assclown patterson
ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:34 PM) did Hill get cut yet?
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) lol. We might need to look at the Eagles cuts for possible 2nd and 3rd stringers
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) If they keep ZHill after this game I will be shocked.
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:38 PM) Philly gave us a worse ass whipping than Detroit gave Buffalo. only difference is we scored
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:42 PM) Im just wondering what manning will put up on our secondary? 70?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:12 PM) who cares about getting destroyed in a preseason game, especially the 4th one. Most of these guys won't even make the team
ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:15 PM) Hill cut yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:18 PM) FIRE IDZIK
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:21 PM) Yeah this game means nothing...except to Stephen Hill (who fumbled lol) and 115
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:23 PM) Hill is a bum, hes pretty much never shown much football skill. The Jets fucked up big time taking him over Alshon Jeffery.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:29 PM) I'm still pissed off about that
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:43 PM) Its not that Im worried about the preseason game itself. i could care less about that. Its the fact of how bad we got destroyed. And some of the guys will be on the team and others on the fringe so getting destroyed like that doesnt fill me with confidence
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:44 PM) It would be one thing if it was just the second half or 4th quarter but this was the whole game. especially getting destroyed in the 1st quarter and at least part of the 2nd where a lot of the guys will be on the team
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:48 PM) 2nd and 3rd stringers making the team had something to prove and even our 2nd stringers got owned so yes Im very concerned. The first stringers need breaks and also if some of them get injured they need to step up. So no after this performance start to finish Im very concerned
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 06:39 AM) Meh...you're reading too much into it
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 06:40 AM) Even in seasons where the Jets blew, I haven't seen anyone refer to the preseason to complain. Ever.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:15 AM) fire izdik http://theredzone.or...rs/Default.aspx
Jetsman05 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 11:17 AM) I picture Rob and 115 as real life friends
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 04:01 PM) Holmes can still play, problem is that hes also a cancer. He wore out his welcome with the Jets
ganggreen2003 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 08:23 PM) did Hill get cut?
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:00 PM) Haven't seen anything yet
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:06 PM) Whos ready for the season!!? WOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (30 August 2014 - 11:54 AM) Hill has been cut
MikeGangGree... Icon : (30 August 2014 - 01:24 PM) Who wants to take bets he ends up in NE
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:18 PM) We'll I guess you guys are fools then in thinking im a fool for being concerned. Do any of you even know that in 2013 the Jets gave up the most passing yards in the franchise since 1986? And our secondary right now is worse than last year right now. To not be concerned is utterly foolish.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:19 PM) Unless our d-line has a monstrous year odds are the team will be eaten up in the pass. Every team will game plan to exploit the pass this year.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:56 PM) Patterson got cut
flood555 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:24 PM) Patterson must have been a huge cancer to get cut
flood555 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:26 PM) is there a midseason draft? we need a DB!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:58 PM) Our week 1 starting CBs will be Antonio Allen and Darrin Walls... wow
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:58 PM) interesting that Simms and Boyd were released
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 04:00 PM) No more McIntyre
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:20 PM) Pretty sure some of these cuts like Simms and McIntyre were made for removing some more cap space to try to find some decent corners and maybe another reliable wr. Possibly get some players cheap. I'd say the current 53 roster will change a good bit in the next week.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:23 PM) I just hope Geno doesn't get hurt or we are horse f*cked. Vick sure as hell can't stay healthy for a full season. I guess the FO could also be think of picking up an old vet cut as 3rd qb. Simms is ok but I'd never trust him to win a regular season game if he was put in.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:25 PM) Anyway it's going yo be an interesting week.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 10:18 PM) I doubt it was about freeing up money, considering we are way under. Like more than $20 mil, way more than enough to find some vet minimum CB
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 10:19 PM) it's more about the roster numbers. McIntyre was replaced by rookies. IK showed flashes when he played
bleedsgreen Icon : (Yesterday, 08:34 AM) McIntyre is a shock to me he was a solid backup and made some big plays
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:44 PM) 1 week till we are 1-0
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:44 PM) we need to annihilate the GAYders
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:28 PM) We claimed McFadden from the Browns. Knows the system should be able to contribute right away
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:29 PM) Watching the Browns game now. Playing all three CB spots. Looks OK. A little grabby although he has not been called for it
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:30 PM) Might be a little aggressive and get burnt over top
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:26 PM) FIRE IDZIK
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Posted 02 August 2005 - 08:48 PM

I just have one question, when is the proper time to start weight lifting? EllisJersy said after my growth spurt, which is reasonable, but I just want to see if I can start early.
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Posted 03 August 2005 - 09:04 AM

I would say it's never too early to start exercising. But I wouldn't get too deep into it. Do simple things. I would start with machines. Definitely do not go straight to free weights. Get your form down and build the primary muscles. Once you've done that, you can focus on free weights and stabilizer muscles and all of the different muscle fibers.
Just my thoughts, I'd ask a bunch of people though.
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Posted 03 August 2005 - 09:38 AM

start liftin wen u turn 13 cuz dats wen ur muscles start to grow. U can work wit free weights but jus do a small weight u can control an do a number of reps to get ur feel an form down den from there work ur way up.
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Posted 03 August 2005 - 02:07 PM

i wouldnt say there is a set gae because everybody is different. Once you hit a major growth spurt is the good time to start getting more serious. If you want to start lifting now though, id say do light lifting, with alot of reps.
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Posted 03 August 2005 - 06:34 PM

Lets see i dtarted lifting before i got my big growth spurt in freshman year, and I a was 5'0" 95 lbs receiver . Then two-a-days started, still hadn't hit my spurt and i started lifting, didnt notice anything except for i got faster, I was still getting laid out on mid slants, lol. All of a sudden I got stronger before i grew any weight or height, I.E. squatted 145 then pyramided up to 230 in 3 months. Now, two HS football seasons and one narrowly missed hernia later, I'm 5'6" 165lbs and I'm second string Varsity my junior year.

I dont recommend starting as early as i did, seeing as i almost got a hernia, but see if you can start lifting before your major growth spurt, maybe like a growth of 5-10 lbs and maybe half an inch.

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Posted 03 August 2005 - 10:53 PM

there are a bunch of freshmen who come to my schools weight room and lift all year round, and it doesnt do shit. when you hit your growth spurt and are going through puberty, its like you are juicing but naturally. you have a ton of testosterone in your body, and when you get older, the levels go down. that's why athletes inject testosterone and human growth hormones. from what ive seen, if you dont wait until your growth spurt, then its wasted time.

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Posted 04 August 2005 - 08:55 AM

QUOTE (ellisjersey92 @ Aug 3 2005, 11:28 PM)
there are a bunch of freshmen who come to my schools weight room and lift all year round, and it doesnt do shit. when you hit your growth spurt and are going through puberty, its like you are juicing but naturally. you have a ton of testosterone in your body, and when you get older, the levels go down. that's why athletes inject testosterone and human growth hormones. from what ive seen, if you dont wait until your growth spurt, then its wasted time.



I wuz a freshman last year an the liftin helped 4 me. I got so much bigger. I gained like 40 pounds of muscle. But i started liftin in december all da way till yesterday wen they liftin jus ended cuz da seasons about ta start 4 footbal 4 us.
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Posted 04 August 2005 - 12:27 PM

i just siad freshmen because im not in the middle school and i dont see any younger kids. my point was that these kids havent hit puberty yet and hit their growth spurt. you may have and thats why lifting weights worked for you

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Posted 04 August 2005 - 01:11 PM

QUOTE (ellisjersey92 @ Aug 4 2005, 01:02 PM)
i just siad freshmen because im not in the middle school and i dont see any younger kids. my point was that these kids havent hit puberty yet and hit their growth spurt. you may have and thats why lifting weights worked for you


Wait I was lifting right before puberty my freshman year and i got stronger faster in no amount of time, before i gained weight.

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Posted 04 August 2005 - 02:18 PM

QUOTE (ganggreen_ewok @ Aug 4 2005, 02:46 PM)
Wait I was lifting right before puberty my freshman year and i got stronger faster in no amount of time, before i gained weight.


ok....this is my little "synopsis" (dont know if thats the right word lol)

everyone has muscle, from the time you're in your mother's stomach. when you are a baby, you probably cant pick up say, a dictionary or another heavy object. when you're 4 you can probably pick up that dictionary. that means that you have gotten stronger and gained muscle. you didnt hit puberty yet, but you got stronger.

im not doubting u ewok, but ive seen tons of kids that lift before they should and its all a waste of time because they get virtually no results. im not saying nothing can happen, because you are gaining muscle and getting stronger from the day you're born, but the thing is that its some kind of scientific fact that your body produces a ton of testosterone when you hit puberty, and that is the time to be lifting and gaining muscle. there are also rumors that it stunts your growth. ive heard that it's true, and ive heard that it's an excuse for people that are too lazy to lift. i dont know which one is true, but IMO its a good idea to start lifting after you have done most of the growing you will be doing in your life, and while you are juicing............................. NATURALLY!!!

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Posted 04 August 2005 - 07:28 PM

Obviously I'm through the stage.

But, I kid you not, I got stronger and faster because of lifting and not because of naturaly growth.if i hadn't lifted weights i'd probably wqould be as skinny as i was then because i started at a good time.

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QUOTE (ellisjersey92 @ Aug 4 2005, 02:53 PM)
ok....this is my little "synopsis" (dont know if thats the right word lol)

everyone has muscle, from the time you're in your mother's stomach. when you are a baby, you probably cant pick up say, a dictionary or another heavy object. when you're 4 you can probably pick up that dictionary. that means that you have gotten stronger and gained muscle. you didnt hit puberty yet, but you got stronger.

im not doubting u ewok, but ive seen tons of kids that lift before they should and its all a waste of time because they get virtually no results. im not saying nothing can happen, because you are gaining muscle and getting stronger from the day you're born, but the thing is that its some kind of scientific fact that your body produces a ton of testosterone when you hit puberty, and that is the time to be lifting and gaining muscle. there are also rumors that it stunts your growth. ive heard that it's true, and ive heard that it's an excuse for people that are too lazy to lift. i dont know which one is true, but IMO its a good idea to start lifting after you have done most of the growing you will be doing in your life, and while you are juicing............................. NATURALLY!!!




Ur rite about the stunting growth. Ive heard of guys that are lik 5 foot 4 an hav muscle.
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Posted 05 August 2005 - 09:57 AM

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Well that would be a tercerary source

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Posted 05 August 2005 - 10:31 AM

Take it from me don't start working out untill your mostly done growing. You will stunt your growth. If you wanna weight train at all use very light weight and lot's of rep's but do not lift to max or try to bulk up when your young. You will pay for it later.
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Posted 05 August 2005 - 12:00 PM

I agree, finally someone gets what im saying

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Posted 06 August 2005 - 11:15 PM

QUOTE (Vilma51Coles87 @ Aug 3 2005, 11:13 AM)
start liftin wen u turn 13 cuz dats wen ur muscles start to grow.  U can work wit free weights  but jus do a small weight u can control an do a number of reps to get ur feel an form down den from there work ur way up.


Please dont spread falseness like this. 13 is not when your muscles start to grow... when you hit puberty it is true that much more chemicals get released, such as testosterone... which is the basis of steroids... it gets complex, but to keep it simple, your muscles dont really start to grow at 13, they change...

it is easier for younger people (compared to older people) to lengthen their muscles and tendons which is how you get bigger... however there can very easily be overworking

I STRESS THAT YOU CAN DO PERMANENT DAMAGE

the main problem with stunting your growth and such is you still have growth plates up until you are in your mid 20's... certain loading such as squatting and if you even have slightly poor technique you can close or alter how effective these growth plates are...

if you really wanna be benching 350 or whatever at the age of 15 knock yourself out... the ramifications could be much worse in the long run, but thats something you should try to figure out for yourself i suppose

it is a complex issue but the textbook time to add muscle to your body is after you are done growing which will be in your 20's until your 30's and everything from then on is mostly muscle maintenance, it becomes more and more difficult to make your muscles any bigger after 30 or so... but by then your tendons (which is what connects the muscle to the bone) are almost unbreakable, stronger than steel... so as you age you can say you are the "man of steel" for more than one reason

i gotta go sleep, but any more questions, just lemme know, i hope anything i have said here has helped someone in any way... have a great day ya'll
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Posted 14 August 2005 - 09:27 PM

Well I recently started working out a lot more seriously but last year, when I was 15, I started working with free weights, light weights though 5lb. I didn't wanna rush into anything so I just did 5lb's and abs. Then I moved on to 10lb in a few months. This summer I started using 16 and 20lb weights, doing a lot of calisthenics, more abs, etc. I work out 4 times a week, with wednesday and weekends off. I would highly reccomend doing something of what I did. Starting at 13 with light weights is a smart thing to do. As other people have said, dont rush into things and in weight lifting less is more. Over exercising is a bad thing ofcourse. Your muscles grow when they rest so don't do the same body part two days in a row (with weights, you can do calisthenics 6x a week.)

By the way, I am 5-6, and very light, under 120lb.
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Posted 14 August 2005 - 09:32 PM

Is it true when you start lifting you stop growing? Because i am 5'10 and 13. I'm like 135 and i do lift . But i dont want to get serious if its gonna stunt my growth.
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Posted 15 August 2005 - 12:20 AM

QUOTE (JetsRock1991 @ Aug 14 2005, 10:07 PM)
Is it true when you start lifting you stop growing? Because i am 5'10 and 13. I'm like 135 and i do lift . But i dont want to get serious if its gonna stunt my growth.

I heard squat could stunt your growth but I doubt bench, clean and deadlift would.
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Posted 15 August 2005 - 12:21 AM

Well deadlift may, squat does, bench doesn't. I've heard pullups can actually increase growth/aid it. I wonder how true that is.
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