[SignalZero]

Let's suppose the Jets aren't any better than they showed us so far. Let's suppose that we don't develop a pass rush and the O Line continues to struggle. Let's suppose that the coaching staff continues to show no imagination and plays like we have to date. I know I know it can easilly turn around if we fix any one of those problem areas, but let us suppose for a minute or two.

As I look at this schedule, I can't in any way see us winning more than 5 games if everything remains the same as listed above. We have 4 games with the Fish and Bills. At best we'll split those 4 and that gives us 2 wins. The record is now 2-4. We'll probably win either the Giants or Philly game, but definitely not both and maybe not either but let's say we win one of those two. The record now is 3-5. Cincy, Pittsburgh, Dallas, Tennessee and New England are all losses which brings us to 3-10 with 3 more games to figure out. KC, The Browns & Washington are all that's left. Can we win all 3, sure, but again keeping in mind the problems listed above and the History of the Jets, we will probably beat KC and lose to the Skins and Browns which brings us to a final mark of 4-12.

Now before everyone freaks out saying we won't lose this game or that game, this is just a scenario, one of many possibilities. What I want to ask you now based on this scenario is...

What would happen in the off-season. Would Mangini lose his job, would players be traded, would we keep the 3-4 or go back to the 4-3? What position would we draft with a guaranteed top 3 pick in next year's draft? DT, DE, LB, OL, RB, QB?

Howie Long's kid is coming out as a DE and Glenn Dorsey a true stud at DT with other stud players rounding out the top 10. What would you do?

Try not to come up with excuses why this won't happen, try to play it like it will and what decisions would you make if you were the GM or owner?

[MoMilk1991]

I would keep the 3-4 because, it was already being established. Mangini would keep his job. A NT would be drafted, followed by a guard or right tackle. Then someone would have to be traded, Eric Barton maybe.

[GreenRebel]

Keep Mangini. Keep the 3-4. Draft the best player available out of DE, OLB, and DT with our top 3 pick. And if we go with a DT, try to trade Robertson during the draft for a good pick(s).

[mangoldmania]

vilma will be traded this off season

[GreenRebel]

vilma will be traded this off season

no way.

[gmany3k]

The best I can play along is we would loose out to get the highest draft choice possible .
a leopard never changes his spot so Mangini would continue exactly as he is looking for cheap players
and releasing anybody he doesn't want at the drop of a hat. I don't think they really want a big fat NT on tyhe team. But players who can morph to any situation which where we are today waiting for the morph to materialize.

[S-Dubb]

Going along with your scenario.. Mangini wouldn't lose his job and nor would he be on the hot seat to lose his job. Most coaches for the exception of Norv Turner because most coaches don't get a hold of a championship team right out the gate. It usually takes 3 to 4 years to get a team ready for that specific coach.

I would fully expect to hit the draft and hit it hard. Mangini took a step back in this years draft because we had to trade up to fill major voids. I would expect DRASTIC things to happen as far as the team is concerned. Perhaps letting loose of D.Rob and Vilma and having a good strong draft. D.T, LG, LB the first 3 taken

I would expect Mangini and Tanny to find a replacement for Sutton. ASAP!

But this is all hypothetical as I think this Sunday is our 1 st game of a 4 to five game streak. I had to throw that in there.

[santana]

all this supposing sounds a bit too down to earth. for this board its kinda scary.


stop it. stop ittttttt

[SignalZero]

all this supposing sounds a bit too down to earth. for this board its kinda scary.


stop it. stop ittttttt

Down to Earth?

[S-Dubb]

Down to Earth?

Santana has been getting into Grandpa's old cough medicine. Don't mind him

[gmany3k]

To close to home is what he means.

[Jet Green]

I think we should.

1. Keep Mangini, I think the only mistake he has made (although continuous) is give a shot to the players that Herm and Bradway left him for 1 reason. The players we all moan about being poor fits just happen to be the most expensive players against the cap.

2. We stick with the 3-4 and get a NT, we cannot be held to randsom by Robertsons contract anymore. Every 3-4 team has a big space eating NT that the whole thing revolves around.

3. I trade Vilma (it pains me to say this) for a low first rounder because by the end of this season we will be lucky to get even that. He isn't built for this defence which I am adamant we should keep. I think this is the best thing for him too. We are killing his and Robertsons careers playing 3-4 in New York.

4. Aquire an experienced 3-4 MLB to help with the grooming of Harris.

5. Try and get a guard with the vilma pick. We need some Road Graders, either that or switch to the Denver style zone blocking.

6.I think sooner or later we are going to need an upgrade at the following too.
Right Tackle (
Slot reciever (McCaerins drops on Sunday made me think of Chrebet, a slot reciever doesn't have to be a quick guy with a 40" verticle, just don't drop the damn football.)
Free Safety (Eric Coleman Kills me with his constant nodding off in Zone)
Tight End (His number rarely gets called over the full season, this might change when Clemens plays but until that time I am going to think the coaches don't feel that strongly for him)

[MoMilk1991]

I think we should.


Tight End (His number rarely gets called over the full season, this might change when Clemens plays but until that time I am going to think the coaches don't feel that strongly for him)

Cause he is helping block all the time. When the ball goes his way, he comes up with it.

[santana]

Santana has been getting into Grandpa's old cough medicine. Don't mind him

stop itt stop ittttt

To close to home is what he means.

bingo

[S-Dubb]

stop itt stop ittttt
bingo

Note to self: Down to earth means close to home.

Ummmmmmmm O.K

[SignalZero]

Note to self: Down to earth means close to home.

Ummmmmmmm O.K

Close to home as in - A very possible outcome.

[santana]

close to home / down to earth / realistic
they all fit

getting value for mccariens or vilma would be nice

alright i need to get some food in me kick this hangover

[gmany3k]

Close to home as in - A very possible outcome.

To Close for Comfort .

[Jetsfan115]

we should have gotten stokly in the off seaosn. he is a great slot receiver. never drops anything

[S-Dubb]

we should have gotten stokly in the off seaosn. he is a great slot receiver. never drops anything

??? are feelin' ok? Stokley???? A WR is the least of our worries.