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azjetfan Icon : (11 June 2015 - 07:37 PM) rumor has it he wanted a raise over his $5.5 million base this year
Jetsfan115 Icon : (11 June 2015 - 07:39 PM) 33 is young for a guard. he's got at least 3-4 more years in him
azjetfan Icon : (11 June 2015 - 07:40 PM) Mmmmm I disagree.
azjetfan Icon : (11 June 2015 - 07:40 PM) I would go 2 year deal.
azjetfan Icon : (11 June 2015 - 07:41 PM) Maybe longer if we could get out of it after 2
Jetsfan115 Icon : (12 June 2015 - 11:36 AM) backloaded 4 year deal ca cut after 2 years wit minimum cap hit
Jetsfan115 Icon : (12 June 2015 - 02:22 PM) Jets sign free agent OT Charlles Brown
azjetfan Icon : (14 June 2015 - 01:48 PM) We won't be able to backload it. He won't accept the offer. Keep in mind he requested he release because they couldn't come to an agreement on a raise.
azjetfan Icon : (14 June 2015 - 01:49 PM) He is probably looking for $7 million or more per year.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (15 June 2015 - 09:44 AM) he was only making 5.5 million this year. we can give him 10 mil signing bonus onf a 5 year deal and a low base salary (like 3 mil a year) it'll average out to 5 mil a year, but he'll get 13 million this year (more then double) and will cost 5 mil a year against the cap for the rest of the deal
2JBallar01 Icon : (15 June 2015 - 02:17 PM) Any news on Mathis at all? Haven't heard anything since his release.
2JBallar01 Icon : (15 June 2015 - 02:17 PM) Also, Sam Baker was cut today as well
santana Icon : (16 June 2015 - 04:52 PM) Titans releasing RB Shonn Greene
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 June 2015 - 10:40 PM) TEH WARRIORS
santana Icon : (16 June 2015 - 11:08 PM) This trophy ceremony awkward as fuck I had to turn it off
Mr_Jet Icon : (17 June 2015 - 08:02 PM) It really was. It was more Doris Burke interviewing the Warriors than it was a trophy ceremony. Plus Adam Silver forgot to hand the Warriors owner the trophy after he was done talking to the crowd.
Mr_Jet Icon : (17 June 2015 - 08:03 PM) R.I.P. Stuart Scott
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 June 2015 - 10:05 PM) FIRE SILVER
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 June 2015 - 10:05 PM) FIRE BURKE
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 June 2015 - 06:27 PM) THE A-ROD!!
santana Icon : (26 June 2015 - 12:19 PM) god damn week no activity in here
santana Icon : (26 June 2015 - 12:20 PM) might have to chop this table up into fire wood
santana Icon : (26 June 2015 - 12:26 PM) FIRE WOOD!
Mr_Jet Icon : (26 June 2015 - 05:54 PM) Kristaps Porzingis???
Mr_Jet Icon : (26 June 2015 - 05:55 PM) You'd think Isiah Thomas was still running the Knicks last night.
santana Icon : (27 June 2015 - 07:30 PM) Lol yeah no clue about those names
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 June 2015 - 10:10 AM) Is there any chance that Porzingis ends up being good?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 June 2015 - 10:10 AM) I'm guessing he won't be the next Pau Gasol or Dirk Nowviski
Mr_Jet Icon : (28 June 2015 - 11:41 AM) You never know, he could be as good as Gasol brothers or Dirk. Honestly the Knicks picking at #4 did the same thing the 3 teams picking ahead of them did. Picked a 19 year who could go boom or bust.
Mr_Jet Icon : (28 June 2015 - 11:45 AM) Porzingis seems to have the "I'm going to prove them wrong" type of attitude needed to overcome people's doubts about him. Hopefully he'll have the work ethic that goes along with that attitude.
azjetfan Icon : (28 June 2015 - 10:17 PM) In other news I decided to shave the dome. Since the hair was falling out anyway I figured I would show it who's boss
santana Icon : (29 June 2015 - 01:11 PM) Deisel up shave the dome
Mr_Jet Icon : (29 June 2015 - 04:49 PM) Welcome home.
azjetfan Icon : (29 June 2015 - 08:59 PM) I feel fast.
azjetfan Icon : (01 July 2015 - 07:53 PM) Shot an 86 today. Personal best.
santana Icon : (01 July 2015 - 08:19 PM) well done
santana Icon : (01 July 2015 - 08:19 PM) im going to play friday
blk_orion Icon : (Yesterday, 08:57 AM) play what? golf?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:16 PM) Sheldon Richardson suspended 4 game for substance abuse.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:16 PM) f***
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:15 PM) DAMNIT TO f***ing HELL!!!!
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 07:46 PM) Yup. Golf. I'm ready to take on Tiger. Mid season form. For what ever reason I am hitting the driver great. 280 and fairly controlled. I'm playing again Saturday.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 07:55 PM) tiger shot a 66 today didnt he easy course though
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 07:55 PM) things were going too well for the jets this off season
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 10:33 PM) Well I guess Williams will be starting in opening day now
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#61 User is offline   Smedsthejet Icon

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Posted 30 June 2008 - 11:07 AM

QUOTE (Mr_Jet @ Jun 30 2008, 03:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We'll beat those Eagles fans yet.


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Posted 30 June 2008 - 11:19 AM

QUOTE (choon328 @ Jun 30 2008, 12:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You do realize that Chad has the best winning percentage of any Jets QB in history, right? So if you actually think there has been better days to be a Jets fan besides when Namath was throwing interceptions and getting carried by his RB to a championship then you're mistaken. biggrin.gif

Thats not exactly something to brag about. How many winning seasons has the Jets had? Pennington played on some good teams, 2004 he had one hell of a run game along with a great defense. 2006 he looked good some games, but others he was bad, he was very inconsistent, he also had help from a very good ST unit, and had the most prolific WR tandem in Jets history with a healthy Coles and Cotchery.
Chad is not the answer, we have not gone past 10-6 with him, or past the 2nd round of the playoffs, I want to believe Clemens is but he might not be, we are probably going to need to draft a QB 1st round this draft. But I want to see what Clemens can do.
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Posted 30 June 2008 - 11:51 AM

QUOTE (Smedsthejet @ Jun 30 2008, 12:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Nah, the iggle fans take the cake. They actually have a really good Q.B and yet they still want to can his ass.
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Posted 30 June 2008 - 11:59 AM

QUOTE (S-Dubb @ Jun 30 2008, 12:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nah, the iggle fans take the cake. They actually have a really good Q.B and yet they still want to can his ass.

I'll take McNabb over Pennington any day. At least McNabb brought his team to a SB, and can play 16 game schedules. And has the ability to throw the ball downfield. McNabb is one of the best QBs in the game, them not liking him is stupid.
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Posted 30 June 2008 - 12:10 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jun 30 2008, 12:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'll take McNabb over Pennington any day. At least McNabb brought his team to a SB, and can play 16 game schedules. And has the ability to throw the ball downfield. McNabb is one of the best QBs in the game, them not liking him is stupid.



plus mcnabb can get out of the pocket and run if needed



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Posted 30 June 2008 - 12:39 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jun 30 2008, 12:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thats not exactly something to brag about. How many winning seasons has the Jets had? Pennington played on some good teams, 2004 he had one hell of a run game along with a great defense. 2006 he looked good some games, but others he was bad, he was very inconsistent, he also had help from a very good ST unit, and had the most prolific WR tandem in Jets history with a healthy Coles and Cotchery.
Chad is not the answer, we have not gone past 10-6 with him, or past the 2nd round of the playoffs, I want to believe Clemens is but he might not be, we are probably going to need to draft a QB 1st round this draft. But I want to see what Clemens can do.


ANYTHING to not give Chad is due. He is a winner.
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Posted 30 June 2008 - 01:23 PM

QUOTE (Jetsman05 @ Jun 30 2008, 01:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ANYTHING to not give Chad is due. He is a winner.

Hes is a winner?? How many rings does he have??
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Posted 30 June 2008 - 01:29 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jun 30 2008, 02:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hes is a winner?? How many rings does he have??


You sure as hell can't call him a Loser because he doesn't have a ring. It takes a full special team effort in any sport to be a world champion.
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Posted 30 June 2008 - 01:50 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jun 30 2008, 12:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'll take McNabb over Pennington any day. At least McNabb brought his team to a SB, and can play 16 game schedules. And has the ability to throw the ball downfield. McNabb is one of the best QBs in the game, them not liking him is stupid.


McNabb hasn't played 16 games since 2003.
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Posted 30 June 2008 - 02:45 PM

QUOTE (Jetsman05 @ Jun 30 2008, 02:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
McNabb hasn't played 16 games since 2003.

Oh my mistake he played 14 games last year....... Still plays more then he sits.
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Posted 30 June 2008 - 03:08 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jun 30 2008, 03:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh my mistake he played 14 games last year....... Still plays more then he sits.


Chad wins more than he loses.... so therefore under that statement, he is a winner.
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Posted 30 June 2008 - 03:15 PM

QUOTE (Jetsman05 @ Jun 30 2008, 04:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Chad wins more than he loses.... so therefore under that statement, he is a winner.

Sure he wins more then he loses, but that doesn't mean he is a winner. A winner is someone like Brady or Manning, not Chad. Chad couldn't win more then Clemens last year either, and Chad had more help from ST TDs and defensive TDs.
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Posted 30 June 2008 - 03:26 PM

QUOTE (Jetsman05 @ Jun 30 2008, 04:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Chad wins more than he loses.... so therefore under that statement, he is a winner.


Lets not get into Chad and winning games. Chad does well against sub-par teams but has a long record of choking against good teams and in the playoffs. McNabb has took the Eagles to the superbowl, something Chaddy boy has never done. So 1-up for McNabb.
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Posted 30 June 2008 - 03:29 PM

QUOTE (S-Dubb @ Jun 30 2008, 04:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lets not get into Chad and winning games. Chad does well against sub-par teams but has a long record of choking against good teams and in the playoffs. McNabb has took the Eagles to the superbowl, something Chaddy boy has never done. So 1-up for McNabb.


Eh.. I never compared the two, was just using his logic of "He plays more than he sits"

End of that though. Chad is a winner. Always will be.
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Posted 30 June 2008 - 03:32 PM

This argument is going to go on through TC and the preseason....bottom line is this, it doesn't matter what we think at all...whoever Mangini decides to name as the starter for game 1 is out of our control! Isn't he the guy whose decision we have to live with regardless of whether we like it?

So if you are going to jump ship (so to speak), if the QB that you want isn't named starter, go right ahead. I'm backing whichever QB that the decision makers anoint as starter in September! Why? Because I've been a Jet fan for over 30 years and feel that we DO have a good squad and can win regardless...

On a side note, do I want Kellen to "outright" win the job? yes..but thats me. Will I not watch and root for the Jets if Chad wins the job? I'll be in front of the TV, or at the game rooting my balls off for our starting QB!!

And another thing, their are alot of die hard Tangini supporters on our forum, that are huge Chad bashers. Question to you guys, since the FO didn't go out this offseason and pick up a veteran QB that has played reasonably well in this league, and lets say the hated Chad wins the job...will you question Mangini then? Just a thought...
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Posted 30 June 2008 - 03:36 PM

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Posted 30 June 2008 - 03:46 PM

QUOTE (Jetsman05 @ Jun 30 2008, 04:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Eh.. I never compared the two, was just using his logic of "He plays more than he sits"

End of that though. Chad is a winner. Always will be.

That makes no sense. How do you get that I said at least he plays more than he sits into Chads a winner???
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Posted 30 June 2008 - 03:48 PM

QUOTE (Leon#29 @ Jun 30 2008, 04:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This argument is going to go on through TC and the preseason....bottom line is this, it doesn't matter what we think at all...whoever Mangini decides to name as the starter for game 1 is out of our control! Isn't he the guy whose decision we have to live with regardless of whether we like it?

So if you are going to jump ship (so to speak), if the QB that you want isn't named starter, go right ahead. I'm backing whichever QB that the decision makers anoint as starter in September! Why? Because I've been a Jet fan for over 30 years and feel that we DO have a good squad and can win regardless...

On a side note, do I want Kellen to "outright" win the job? yes..but thats me. Will I not watch and root for the Jets if Chad wins the job? I'll be in front of the TV, or at the game rooting my balls off for our starting QB!!

And another thing, their are alot of die hard Tangini supporters on our forum, that are huge Chad bashers. Question to you guys, since the FO didn't go out this offseason and pick up a veteran QB that has played reasonably well in this league, and lets say the hated Chad wins the job...will you question Mangini then? Just a thought...


I am in the same boat as you, just your "want" for Kellen, mine is for Chad. Its all understandable. I don't hate on anyone that wants Kellen, I just don't think the arguement should be about how bad Chad "sucks" it should be about what you think of KELLEN.

I don't understand how people can sit here and say Chad sucks, then get infront of the TV next season if he wins the job and support him hardcore like we should, and I will.
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Posted 30 June 2008 - 03:55 PM

QUOTE (Leon#29 @ Jun 30 2008, 04:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This argument is going to go on through TC and the preseason....bottom line is this, it doesn't matter what we think at all...whoever Mangini decides to name as the starter for game 1 is out of our control! Isn't he the guy whose decision we have to live with regardless of whether we like it?

So if you are going to jump ship (so to speak), if the QB that you want isn't named starter, go right ahead. I'm backing whichever QB that the decision makers anoint as starter in September! Why? Because I've been a Jet fan for over 30 years and feel that we DO have a good squad and can win regardless...

On a side note, do I want Kellen to "outright" win the job? yes..but thats me. Will I not watch and root for the Jets if Chad wins the job? I'll be in front of the TV, or at the game rooting my balls off for our starting QB!!

And another thing, their are alot of die hard Tangini supporters on our forum, that are huge Chad bashers. Question to you guys, since the FO didn't go out this offseason and pick up a veteran QB that has played reasonably well in this league, and lets say the hated Chad wins the job...will you question Mangini then? Just a thought...

I will not question Mangini, I will question that this team doesn't have a legit QB to replace Pennington. If Clemens doesn't beat Chad out, then we need to draft a QB 1st round this draft. That is priority #1! We need a franchise QB! I am still mad that we didn't go after Drew Brees when he was a FA, then not getting Matt Leinart or Jay Cutler.
I will watch either way, it doesn't matter, I watched the Jets through 05 when we had the worst QB display on earth with like 5-6 QBs through out the season. I'm just sick of Pennington, I want a real QB, one that can actually throw.
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Posted 30 June 2008 - 03:59 PM

QUOTE (S-Dubb @ Jun 30 2008, 04:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lets not get into Chad and winning games. Chad does well against sub-par teams but has a long record of choking against good teams and in the playoffs. McNabb has took the Eagles to the superbowl, something Chaddy boy has never done. So 1-up for McNabb.


McNabb plays in the NFC. I mean look at the starting QBs for all the NFC Champions since 2000.

2007: Eli Manning (Won, as a Wild Card team)
2006: Rex Grossman (Lost)
2005: Matt Hasselbeck (Lost)
2004: Donovan McNabb (Lost)
2003: Jake Delhomme (Lost)
2002: Trent Dilfer (Won)
2001: Kurt Warner (Lost)
2000: Kerry Collins (Lost)

Ever since Denver broke the AFC's Super Bowl losing streak the NFC has been the weaker conference. The three teams that Chad and the Jets lost to in the playoffs since 2002 all went on to become AFC Champions since then. The Raiders in 02, the Steelers in 05, and the Patriots this past season.

I'm not trying to make excuses for Chad but him (and every other AFC QB) being in the AFC gives him a tougher road to the Super Bowl than Donovan McNabb had/has.

But I guess with Jetsfan0099's logic Trent Dilfer is more of a winner than Dan Marino is since Dilfer has a ring and Marino doesn't. Proof positive TEAMS win Super Bowls and not PLAYERS.




This will be my final post in this thread since I'm sure there will be a new thread next week on the very same topic. So maybe I'll participate in that thread....or the one the week after next or the one the week after that.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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