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ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
santana Icon : (24 April 2015 - 11:32 PM) TEH WIZ
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:57 AM) Teh Suarez
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 07:00 AM) Until next time fellas!
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 01:19 PM) Helloooooooooo
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 01:19 PM) Bueller
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 01:33 PM) Manish says the Jets should trade down and draft Andrus Peat round 1
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 04:39 PM) Even an idiot can say something that's right every now and then
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Post icon  Posted 27 July 2008 - 09:47 AM

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<h3 class="entry-header">Day 3: Afternoon practice</h3> I ran into Ira, who we can probably agree is one of the most positive Jets fans out there, on my way off the practice field tonight.

"Looks like it's Ratliff," Ira said of who looked the best this afternoon.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, was the story of the quarterbacks today.

* First things, first: Clemens did bounce back from a bad morning session in which he threw an interception (it was a deflection off Laveranues Coles' hands) and lost a fumble. There were no interceptions this afternoon and he suffered from a couple of dropped passes (a problem last season as you all know). Clemens's nicest pass? A 20-yarder over the middle to a diving Bubba Franks during one of the day's last 11-on-11s.

Pennington made a strong throw into the prevailing wind that blew the entire 1 hour 54 minute practice, a spiral that traveled 20 yards down the middle to Jerricho Cotchery. But emblematic of the overall afternoon – and really the day on offense – the next two plays were as follows: Dustin Keller, false start; Alan Faneca, false start. And so it was, Gentleman, start your laps. (Faneca had to run another one later in the practice and Rich Cimini from the News commented that was probably the most laps the veteran lineman has had to run in his career. But that's Mangini; love 'em and lap 'em).

* Incidentally, when Faneca came out to run, Will Montgomery, who had a strong minicamp and a good first day here, replaced him. Might be some depth developing there. Also of note on a screen pass, thrown by Clemens, to Thomas Jones, Robert Turner and Clint Oldenburg were far out in front impressively clearing space down the left sideline, helping on the big gainer.

* Pennington nearly had his first interception of training camp, throwing a short dumpoff pass over the middle[b/] rolleyes.gif that Shaun Ellis (quietly having a nice start to camp) read, tipped and nearly picked off. Pennington also nearly had another ball picked by Eric Barton (Mr. Turnover with an interception and fumble recovery over three days) on a ball over the middle, but Barton could not hang on. Pennington did zip a 10-yarder to the sideline to Chansi Stuckey, who caught all the balls thrown his way after one drop this morning.

* Ratliff, meanwhile, arguably had the afternoon's nicest throws – an 18-yard completion to David Ball along the sideline and then, later, a 35-yarder that wobbled in the stiff breeze but still found its way to David Clowney, who made a fine catch with Drew Coleman nearby. But Ratliff wasn't perfect, fumbling later in the practice and earning a lap himself.

* Bottom line: after five practices, Pennington is ahead. But, stressing again, it's five practices.

* [b]Oh, and any receiver who bests Darrelle Revis this camp is accomplishing something major because it just doesn't happen often. As I did during last week's live chat, I'm predicting Pro Bowl for Revis.


* Mike Nugent, who missed his share of kicks during the OTAs, had a good end to the day, going 5-for-7 in field goals, the two misses coming from 50 yards. But Nugent ended the workout by nailing one right down the middle from 55 yards that had plenty to spare. Said it before: Nugent will be/is fine.

And with that, back at it tomorrow. One practice, at 1:30 p.m.



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<h2 class="asset-name">Another Brett at QB for Jets</h2> The Jets already have a Brett at quarterback. Name's Brett Ratliff, their third-stringer. Never heard of him? Well, he's a kid out of Utah and he spent last season on the practice squad. Each day in practice, he shows a little something.

Like this evening, for instance. He threw a nice deep completion to WR David Clowney, who beat CB Drew Coleman up the left sideline. On the next play, Ratliff fired a real nice ball to TE Bubba Franks over the middle. Hmm. I'm not saying he's the real deal, but keep an eye on him. He has a fairly strong arm, maybe stronger than Kellen Clemens, and he seems to get the ball to the right guy.

Just throwing it out there.

Some notes from practice:

• The performances by Chad Pennington and Clemens were fairly non-descript. Pennington almost was intercepted by LB Eric Barton. Clemens was victimized by a Franks drop. [b[So far, Pennington has clearly outplayed Clemens, who has committed four turnovers (three INTs and one fumble) in five practices. Pennington has yet to throw an interception. For whatever that's worth this early in camp.


• It was a rather sloppy practice for the offense, which had numerous penalties. Even LG Alan Faneca got caught up in the epidemic, as he was flagged twice for false starts. Result: You guessed it, penalty laps around the field, that old Eric Mangini staple. Rookie TE Dustin Keller also got busted for a false starter. Heck, even long snapper James Dearth had to take a lap.

• RT Damien Woody spent the entire practice on a stationary bike. Presumably, he was injured in the morning practice, although no one (writers, I mean) seemed to notice it. It must have slipped Mangini's mind when he addressed us after the morning workout. Ha!

•RB Musa Smith, after a brief stint on the non-football injury list, showed nice burst on a run up the middle and into the secondary.

• DE Kareem Brown rag-dolled OT Jacob Bender in a one-on-one, pass-rushing drill.

• Can anybody catch RB Leon Washington? Every time he touches the ball, he's making something happen in the open field.


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Posted 27 July 2008 - 09:59 AM

Not at all, but when Cimini and Leberfeld are spending more of their time during these practices talking to other people with their backs facing the playing field, I don't see the purpose in what they wrote on plays they didn't even witness...otherwise I would help out the site like I've done in the past...I'm not posting articles from Jet writers that aren't even doing their jobs IMO! Sorry Dubb..
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Posted 27 July 2008 - 10:06 AM

Tell you what Dubb, Amen and myself are heading out to the 1:30 practice this afternoon...we watch the whole practice, so this afternoons practice will be critiqued by one of the board members!!
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Posted 27 July 2008 - 10:07 AM

QUOTE (Leon#29 @ Jul 27 2008, 11:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Tell you what Dubb, Amen and myself are heading out to the 1:30 practice this afternoon...we watch the whole practice, so this afternoons practice will be critiqued by one of the board members!!


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Posted 27 July 2008 - 10:10 AM

QUOTE (Leon#29 @ Jul 27 2008, 11:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Tell you what Dubb, Amen and myself are heading out to the 1:30 practice this afternoon...we watch the whole practice, so this afternoons practice will be critiqued by one of the board members!!


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Posted 27 July 2008 - 10:21 AM

QUOTE (Leon#29 @ Jul 27 2008, 11:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Tell you what Dubb, Amen and myself are heading out to the 1:30 practice this afternoon...we watch the whole practice, so this afternoons practice will be critiqued by one of the board members!!

Look forward to it!
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Posted 27 July 2008 - 10:25 AM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jul 27 2008, 11:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Look forward to it!

Shit it just started raining, they may not even have an outdoor practice...and when they practice in the bubble its CLOSED to the public!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted 27 July 2008 - 10:30 AM

I have been waiting for your observations . you could write an article about the writers with their head turned writing scripted tales. and of course Amen will have to write how chad is throwing his ball around the field.
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Posted 27 July 2008 - 10:35 AM

QUOTE (gmany3k @ Jul 27 2008, 11:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have been waiting for your observations . you could write an article about the writers with their head turned writing scripted tales. and of course Amen will have to write how chad is throwing his ball around the field.
Many you are a piece of work...in a good way! But in a way they are scipted tales! Amen will give you his unbiased view on today's practice I'm sure..
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Posted 27 July 2008 - 02:59 PM

nice reads. but it seems our offense is in trouble this year. our stud WRs are dropping passes our Qbs are turning the ball over and our big additions are hurt and getting penalties.
Get it done MT
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Posted 27 July 2008 - 03:05 PM

QUOTE (Leon#29 @ Jul 27 2008, 11:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Shit it just started raining, they may not even have an outdoor practice...and when they practice in the bubble its CLOSED to the public!!!!!!!!!!!

Yup closed for the public.
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Posted 27 July 2008 - 03:40 PM

It was open for the first hour. We got to see them practice from 1:30 to 2:30. After that, the horns went off indicating lightning and thunderstorms, so we had to head back.

Truthfully, if it wasn't a Sunday I'd imagine the Jets would've closed practice. Leon was calling the number for weather updates, and the message warned of heavy rain returning around 2:30. This is supposed to be a weekend for the fans, so I think they just threw us a bone and let us watch practice for an hour.

I'll post up my notes on the front page within the hour.
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Posted 27 July 2008 - 04:44 PM

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Posted 27 July 2008 - 04:56 PM

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Me likes.. good stuff Amen. I've been excited to hear about Gholston but it just doesn't seem like he's doing much of anything. Perhaps you could give us your thoughts on Ahmad Carrol and Jerhuu Carlick( If that how you spell his name). Oh and whats happen opposite of Rhodes at the safety position.
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Posted 27 July 2008 - 05:18 PM

Jehuu Caulcrick is huge. He has good footwork from what I saw of him on the bags. I think he'll be earning his spot on the team as a backup fullback. I wanna see what his hands out of the backfield are like too.

And opposite Rhodes has been Eric Smith -- but like I said, he seems pretty stiff. Leon mentioned it to me on the way there, and it was pretty evident. That spot is going to be earned by either Artrell Hawkins or Abram Elam.
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Posted 27 July 2008 - 05:54 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jul 27 2008, 04:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yup closed for the public.


Is there anyway to find out if tomorrow will be open to the public now that today was closed?
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Posted 27 July 2008 - 06:16 PM

QUOTE (Amen @ Jul 27 2008, 06:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Jehuu Caulcrick is huge. He has good footwork from what I saw of him on the bags. I think he'll be earning his spot on the team as a backup fullback. I wanna see what his hands out of the backfield are like too.

And opposite Rhodes has been Eric Smith -- but like I said, he seems pretty stiff. Leon mentioned it to me on the way there, and it was pretty evident. That spot is going to be earned by either Artrell Hawkins or Abram Elam.



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Posted 27 July 2008 - 06:18 PM

lol. you should've said what up. that's the jersey i hate most. i bought it too big, so it makes me look even shorter and fatter than i really am lol.
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Posted 27 July 2008 - 06:23 PM

QUOTE (Amen @ Jul 27 2008, 07:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
lol. you should've said what up. that's the jersey i hate most. i bought it too big, so it makes me look even shorter and fatter than i really am lol.


Haha you looked fine. But yeah, i always imagined you a bit taller...all good though. It was ashame my first ever TC got cut short but it was cool to see all the players.
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Posted 27 July 2008 - 06:33 PM

Remember, Gholston might not stand out at OLB right now, because he is still learning the position. He really didn't stand up much in college, mainly a DE. So he will probably look better in his 3 point stance.
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