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ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:45 PM) Powell ok Ivory HELL NO
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:50 PM) Well that definitely opens the door for CJ Spiller to the JETS now that the Jills got Shady
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:12 AM) Spiller is a joke. 99 % of the time he gets tackled for a loss or a 1 or 2 yard gain maximum. He breaks a run here and there. he had one good year in his whole career. their is a reason he is a backup and not the starter. I suggest you guys that believe Spiller has anything to offer go through the play by play game logs. I did and he is horrendous.
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:14 AM) Spiller cannot break a tackle period. I broke down last years game logs of his runs in a thread last year. He isn't even a pass catching rb. Fred Jackson catches most of the running back passes.
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:20 AM) Unless Spiller comes tremendously cheap no thank you. Wouldn't pay more than a one year deal worth 1 million at most. All he has is speed. Not even on Sproles level. His stats are inflated. For instance he has 10 runs in a game and 9 of them are losses are or 1-2 yard runs. Then he breaks one on the outside for 40-70 yards. Not reliable at all. Even when he break one he is guaranteed a td
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:21 AM) Even in his 1200 yard rushing year he only had 6 tds rushing and 2 receiving
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:23 AM) Spiller is only valuable as a special teams player. Period By year 2010 ) tds rshng 1 rcvng 283 yards rshng
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:31 AM) meant 0 tds rushing in 2010, 2011 4 tds 561 yards rushing 2tds receiving, 2012 6tds 1244 rushing 2 tds receiving, 2013 2tds 933 yards rushing 0tds receiving, 2014 0tds 300 yards rushing 1td receiving.
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:41 AM) His stats look decent on paper but if you actually go through the game logs of his career like I did his stats are extremely inflated. For instance one game last year he had 10 attempts for 8 yards another 4 attempts for -4 yards, another 6 attempts for 19 yards, another 10 attempts for 25 yards.Another game he had 12 games for 69 yards but 47 of it was on one play. Point is he sucks as a running back. Who wants a rb that gets stopped 99% of the time and breaks one play fir a long run. We need reliable backs not a slim chance of him breaking one
santana Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:06 AM) "NFL released its first 2015 League Year cap report to teams. Teams w/most room: 1) Jaguars $64.058M; 2) Jets $52.901; 3) Raiders $52.598M."
santana Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:06 AM) #2 baby
santana Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:07 AM) WE DID IT!
santana Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:07 AM) thnx idzik
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:09 AM) RE-HIRE IDZIK
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:10 AM) Well in all fairness, when I think about the Jets I do think about number two
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:30 AM) FIRE MACCAGNAN
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:30 AM) The Jaguars hired John Idzik for his expertise in contract negotiating
Chaos Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:36 AM) ppl are going to get paid this offseason.
Chaos Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:36 AM) so many teams have space
Chaos Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:39 AM) eagles have 48M in cap space. Chip is going to go HAM this offseason.
Chaos Icon : (04 March 2015 - 12:35 PM) @RapSheet: The #Bills have traded for Matt Cassel, the team announced.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 12:43 PM) rex is gearing up his team
Jetsfan115 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 12:43 PM) a QB that won't turn it over. 2 stud Rbs for ground and pound and will now start building his defense
azjetfan Icon : (04 March 2015 - 01:49 PM) McCoys agent said the trade is not final and he hinted that he may not be willing to play there.
Chaos Icon : (04 March 2015 - 04:41 PM) @KristianRDyer: Source: If Marcus Mariota is at No. 6, Eagles will make trade with #Jets http://www.metro.us/...-mCQODxZ1xjBVA/ … via @metronewyork #NYJets
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:18 PM) Jets bringing in Kendall Langford and CHris Canty for visits
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:20 PM) Cassel blows
Jetsfan115 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:07 PM) I wouldn't mind trading down personally
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 09:48 AM) Vince Wilfork will be a FA. Pats will not pick up his $8 million option. Looks like they are gearing up to keep Revis.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:35 AM) Bears shopping Marshall for a mid round pick
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 12:31 PM) What does his contract look like? Offer a 7th conditional 6th if we do something if the $$s are right.
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 12:37 PM) He is almost due 9.6 million this year and has 2 years left. He is defiantly better than Harvin although a little older @ 30
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:55 PM) I'd rather sign Maclin or Cobb and then draft a WR early
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 02:55 PM) I am not real big on Cobb. I think he is a poor mans Harvin. Living in WI I watch most Packer games. He does have talent and he is a good receiver but without Rogers he will not be very good.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:27 PM) looks like David Harris will go to the Bills, and I'm fine with that. Hes getting older and declining.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:56 PM) i guess davis takes the MLB spot then pace on one side. who is on the other? barnes
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:56 PM) babin maybe?
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:57 PM) coples moves to DE, richardson to DT, snacks at DT and wilk at DE
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 03:59 PM) its too early to tell. Our roster is not anywhere near where it will be come opening day.
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 04:00 PM) Couples has had the most success when he was in a 4 man front though.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:19 PM) no
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 05:45 PM) CONSPIRACIES AND DREAMS NOTHING BUT CONSPIRACIES AND DREAMS
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 10:30 AM) Read that the Dolphins think they'll sign Suh
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 10:30 AM) But the Raiders are expected to meet with him and have a ton of cap space
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 10:30 AM) The Raiders will probably pay huge money to him
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Post icon  Posted 27 July 2008 - 09:47 AM

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<h3 class="entry-header">Day 3: Afternoon practice</h3> I ran into Ira, who we can probably agree is one of the most positive Jets fans out there, on my way off the practice field tonight.

"Looks like it's Ratliff," Ira said of who looked the best this afternoon.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, was the story of the quarterbacks today.

* First things, first: Clemens did bounce back from a bad morning session in which he threw an interception (it was a deflection off Laveranues Coles' hands) and lost a fumble. There were no interceptions this afternoon and he suffered from a couple of dropped passes (a problem last season as you all know). Clemens's nicest pass? A 20-yarder over the middle to a diving Bubba Franks during one of the day's last 11-on-11s.

Pennington made a strong throw into the prevailing wind that blew the entire 1 hour 54 minute practice, a spiral that traveled 20 yards down the middle to Jerricho Cotchery. But emblematic of the overall afternoon – and really the day on offense – the next two plays were as follows: Dustin Keller, false start; Alan Faneca, false start. And so it was, Gentleman, start your laps. (Faneca had to run another one later in the practice and Rich Cimini from the News commented that was probably the most laps the veteran lineman has had to run in his career. But that's Mangini; love 'em and lap 'em).

* Incidentally, when Faneca came out to run, Will Montgomery, who had a strong minicamp and a good first day here, replaced him. Might be some depth developing there. Also of note on a screen pass, thrown by Clemens, to Thomas Jones, Robert Turner and Clint Oldenburg were far out in front impressively clearing space down the left sideline, helping on the big gainer.

* Pennington nearly had his first interception of training camp, throwing a short dumpoff pass over the middle[b/] rolleyes.gif that Shaun Ellis (quietly having a nice start to camp) read, tipped and nearly picked off. Pennington also nearly had another ball picked by Eric Barton (Mr. Turnover with an interception and fumble recovery over three days) on a ball over the middle, but Barton could not hang on. Pennington did zip a 10-yarder to the sideline to Chansi Stuckey, who caught all the balls thrown his way after one drop this morning.

* Ratliff, meanwhile, arguably had the afternoon's nicest throws – an 18-yard completion to David Ball along the sideline and then, later, a 35-yarder that wobbled in the stiff breeze but still found its way to David Clowney, who made a fine catch with Drew Coleman nearby. But Ratliff wasn't perfect, fumbling later in the practice and earning a lap himself.

* Bottom line: after five practices, Pennington is ahead. But, stressing again, it's five practices.

* [b]Oh, and any receiver who bests Darrelle Revis this camp is accomplishing something major because it just doesn't happen often. As I did during last week's live chat, I'm predicting Pro Bowl for Revis.


* Mike Nugent, who missed his share of kicks during the OTAs, had a good end to the day, going 5-for-7 in field goals, the two misses coming from 50 yards. But Nugent ended the workout by nailing one right down the middle from 55 yards that had plenty to spare. Said it before: Nugent will be/is fine.

And with that, back at it tomorrow. One practice, at 1:30 p.m.



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<h2 class="asset-name">Another Brett at QB for Jets</h2> The Jets already have a Brett at quarterback. Name's Brett Ratliff, their third-stringer. Never heard of him? Well, he's a kid out of Utah and he spent last season on the practice squad. Each day in practice, he shows a little something.

Like this evening, for instance. He threw a nice deep completion to WR David Clowney, who beat CB Drew Coleman up the left sideline. On the next play, Ratliff fired a real nice ball to TE Bubba Franks over the middle. Hmm. I'm not saying he's the real deal, but keep an eye on him. He has a fairly strong arm, maybe stronger than Kellen Clemens, and he seems to get the ball to the right guy.

Just throwing it out there.

Some notes from practice:

• The performances by Chad Pennington and Clemens were fairly non-descript. Pennington almost was intercepted by LB Eric Barton. Clemens was victimized by a Franks drop. [b[So far, Pennington has clearly outplayed Clemens, who has committed four turnovers (three INTs and one fumble) in five practices. Pennington has yet to throw an interception. For whatever that's worth this early in camp.


• It was a rather sloppy practice for the offense, which had numerous penalties. Even LG Alan Faneca got caught up in the epidemic, as he was flagged twice for false starts. Result: You guessed it, penalty laps around the field, that old Eric Mangini staple. Rookie TE Dustin Keller also got busted for a false starter. Heck, even long snapper James Dearth had to take a lap.

• RT Damien Woody spent the entire practice on a stationary bike. Presumably, he was injured in the morning practice, although no one (writers, I mean) seemed to notice it. It must have slipped Mangini's mind when he addressed us after the morning workout. Ha!

•RB Musa Smith, after a brief stint on the non-football injury list, showed nice burst on a run up the middle and into the secondary.

• DE Kareem Brown rag-dolled OT Jacob Bender in a one-on-one, pass-rushing drill.

• Can anybody catch RB Leon Washington? Every time he touches the ball, he's making something happen in the open field.


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Posted 27 July 2008 - 09:59 AM

Not at all, but when Cimini and Leberfeld are spending more of their time during these practices talking to other people with their backs facing the playing field, I don't see the purpose in what they wrote on plays they didn't even witness...otherwise I would help out the site like I've done in the past...I'm not posting articles from Jet writers that aren't even doing their jobs IMO! Sorry Dubb..
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Posted 27 July 2008 - 10:06 AM

Tell you what Dubb, Amen and myself are heading out to the 1:30 practice this afternoon...we watch the whole practice, so this afternoons practice will be critiqued by one of the board members!!
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Posted 27 July 2008 - 10:07 AM

QUOTE (Leon#29 @ Jul 27 2008, 11:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Tell you what Dubb, Amen and myself are heading out to the 1:30 practice this afternoon...we watch the whole practice, so this afternoons practice will be critiqued by one of the board members!!


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Posted 27 July 2008 - 10:10 AM

QUOTE (Leon#29 @ Jul 27 2008, 11:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Tell you what Dubb, Amen and myself are heading out to the 1:30 practice this afternoon...we watch the whole practice, so this afternoons practice will be critiqued by one of the board members!!


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Posted 27 July 2008 - 10:21 AM

QUOTE (Leon#29 @ Jul 27 2008, 11:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Tell you what Dubb, Amen and myself are heading out to the 1:30 practice this afternoon...we watch the whole practice, so this afternoons practice will be critiqued by one of the board members!!

Look forward to it!
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Posted 27 July 2008 - 10:25 AM

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Look forward to it!

Shit it just started raining, they may not even have an outdoor practice...and when they practice in the bubble its CLOSED to the public!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted 27 July 2008 - 10:30 AM

I have been waiting for your observations . you could write an article about the writers with their head turned writing scripted tales. and of course Amen will have to write how chad is throwing his ball around the field.
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Posted 27 July 2008 - 10:35 AM

QUOTE (gmany3k @ Jul 27 2008, 11:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have been waiting for your observations . you could write an article about the writers with their head turned writing scripted tales. and of course Amen will have to write how chad is throwing his ball around the field.
Many you are a piece of work...in a good way! But in a way they are scipted tales! Amen will give you his unbiased view on today's practice I'm sure..
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Posted 27 July 2008 - 02:59 PM

nice reads. but it seems our offense is in trouble this year. our stud WRs are dropping passes our Qbs are turning the ball over and our big additions are hurt and getting penalties.
Get it done MT
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Posted 27 July 2008 - 03:05 PM

QUOTE (Leon#29 @ Jul 27 2008, 11:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Shit it just started raining, they may not even have an outdoor practice...and when they practice in the bubble its CLOSED to the public!!!!!!!!!!!

Yup closed for the public.
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Posted 27 July 2008 - 03:40 PM

It was open for the first hour. We got to see them practice from 1:30 to 2:30. After that, the horns went off indicating lightning and thunderstorms, so we had to head back.

Truthfully, if it wasn't a Sunday I'd imagine the Jets would've closed practice. Leon was calling the number for weather updates, and the message warned of heavy rain returning around 2:30. This is supposed to be a weekend for the fans, so I think they just threw us a bone and let us watch practice for an hour.

I'll post up my notes on the front page within the hour.
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Posted 27 July 2008 - 04:44 PM

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Posted 27 July 2008 - 04:56 PM

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Me likes.. good stuff Amen. I've been excited to hear about Gholston but it just doesn't seem like he's doing much of anything. Perhaps you could give us your thoughts on Ahmad Carrol and Jerhuu Carlick( If that how you spell his name). Oh and whats happen opposite of Rhodes at the safety position.
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Posted 27 July 2008 - 05:18 PM

Jehuu Caulcrick is huge. He has good footwork from what I saw of him on the bags. I think he'll be earning his spot on the team as a backup fullback. I wanna see what his hands out of the backfield are like too.

And opposite Rhodes has been Eric Smith -- but like I said, he seems pretty stiff. Leon mentioned it to me on the way there, and it was pretty evident. That spot is going to be earned by either Artrell Hawkins or Abram Elam.
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Posted 27 July 2008 - 05:54 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jul 27 2008, 04:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yup closed for the public.


Is there anyway to find out if tomorrow will be open to the public now that today was closed?
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Posted 27 July 2008 - 06:16 PM

QUOTE (Amen @ Jul 27 2008, 06:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Jehuu Caulcrick is huge. He has good footwork from what I saw of him on the bags. I think he'll be earning his spot on the team as a backup fullback. I wanna see what his hands out of the backfield are like too.

And opposite Rhodes has been Eric Smith -- but like I said, he seems pretty stiff. Leon mentioned it to me on the way there, and it was pretty evident. That spot is going to be earned by either Artrell Hawkins or Abram Elam.



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Posted 27 July 2008 - 06:18 PM

lol. you should've said what up. that's the jersey i hate most. i bought it too big, so it makes me look even shorter and fatter than i really am lol.
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Posted 27 July 2008 - 06:23 PM

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lol. you should've said what up. that's the jersey i hate most. i bought it too big, so it makes me look even shorter and fatter than i really am lol.


Haha you looked fine. But yeah, i always imagined you a bit taller...all good though. It was ashame my first ever TC got cut short but it was cool to see all the players.
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Posted 27 July 2008 - 06:33 PM

Remember, Gholston might not stand out at OLB right now, because he is still learning the position. He really didn't stand up much in college, mainly a DE. So he will probably look better in his 3 point stance.
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