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Posted 30 March 2012 - 01:47 PM

Getting abs is hard. Burning belly fat is hard for sure.

These are thing you need to get abs.

- Cardio- lots of cardio
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- ab/core training- Why? because muscle burns fat

There is a pretty cool diet trick you can do if your serious.

Eat supper in the morning and breakfast at night. The idea is breaky is your lightest meal and easier to digest and better for nighttime. Also understand this, often for dinner we eat meat (beef,chicken,steaks) Do you know it takes nearly 72 hours for certain meats to pass through our bodies? Also, by eating supper for breakfast you'll have the entire day to work it off. As opposed to going to bed a few hours after.

Tip trick- I have friends of mine that rub baby oil on their stomach and wrap their belly with plastic wrap when they run. The idea is to sweat out that particular area. Baby oil is pore clogger and plastic wrap makes that area sweat more. It does work.

ab training; I've never done a crunch in years. I use the pull up bar and bring my knees to my chest. I just hate crunches. I incorporate this with planks and various others. If interested in other type I'll share just ask.

Another tip: Wait until AFTER your supper at night to run. It will help burn off fat, it will also help your food pass plus help you sleep at night.

tip: If you eat salad with your supper eat it AFTER your meal. It's proven that eating spinach and left lettuce after a meal helps the food break down fast in the stomach. Easy digestion is key they having these things sit in your gut.

Also.. drink a cleansing tea (we all should do this anyways) because a lot of what we eat comes from a can or box, has starches and junk in it, stuff that just sits in our bodies. Being regular is key to getting abs. Also flushing toxins out the body which can help with mood.
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 02:54 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 30 March 2012 - 12:29 AM, said:

Well thank you. I started running and I bought a stationary bike earlier this month. I try to do about an hour a day. I try to watch my calories. I haven't had a regular soda in over a year I think. For the most part I do drink water. I do still drink orange juice every day though especially in the morning. I've never really liked coffee so I don't drink that. I've been eating turkey a lot this past year. That's the primary meat I eat now. I eat baked chicken probably once a week. I only eat beef on rare occasions now. The past few weeks I've been trying to switch over to fat free milk. I've eaten whole milk my whole life and I'm not a big fan of milk to begin with. I use the fat free milk when I cook now and make protein shakes with it.

I've been changing my diet gradually over the past year and a half. But only really started exercising on a regular basis just a few weeks ago. But I'm going to try to switch it to 4-5 small meals like you said. But that getting rid of condiments is going to be tough for me.


Running or cycling for an hour is too strenous and unsustainable. You'll do it for a week and then you'll never do it again. Insead, calculate your "cardio zone". It's your heart's BPM based on a formula that somehow determines the optimal number based on your height/weight/age. Do whatever you want to keep your heart rate in that range for 20 minutes non stop (it has to be non stop that's why stop and go sports like basketball won't really give you the best cardio results). Also, don't eat any carbs past 8PM (carbs break down into sugar and if you don't burn that sugar, your body stores as fat).
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 09:19 PM

Thank you guys. This is all very helpful.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 10 April 2012 - 10:22 PM

How do you all do your reps?

I remember reading somewhere that if you are doing arms for the day ie curls. then you start at a lower weight and increase up so say your max curl is 50 you start at 30 and go up by 10 or 5 whatever till you max out.
i find this technique incredibly inconsistent. anyone else have any method or do you just go just under your max weight every rep.
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Posted 11 April 2012 - 06:21 AM

what would you guys suggest to a diabetic? diet wise carbs are terrible for me as my body cant process them properly. I want to start working out again and im now in my mid 30's. I was never really a weight lifter, more of a bball player who did alot of running, push ups n situps.
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Posted 11 April 2012 - 10:41 PM

View Post518-JeTS-FaN, on 11 April 2012 - 07:21 AM, said:

what would you guys suggest to a diabetic? diet wise carbs are terrible for me as my body cant process them properly. I want to start working out again and im now in my mid 30's. I was never really a weight lifter, more of a bball player who did alot of running, push ups n situps.


not really sure if any of us would be really qualified to answer that.

you might want to look into a soy based protein i googled real quick and found that some type 2 diabetes stick with the soy based products. I guess it depends what you are trying to accomplish.
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Posted 02 June 2012 - 04:55 PM

my uncle set me up with this nutritionist/holistic doctor that he sees...dude gave me Phyto Greens capsules and UNDA Numbered Compounds #1 #20 and #243...anyone know anything about this stuff?
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Posted 03 June 2012 - 09:49 PM

View PostHarlemHxC814, on 02 June 2012 - 05:55 PM, said:

my uncle set me up with this nutritionist/holistic doctor that he sees...dude gave me Phyto Greens capsules and UNDA Numbered Compounds #1 #20 and #243...anyone know anything about this stuff?


no idea
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Posted 06 June 2012 - 01:49 PM

So....I just saw this thread, figured I could learn something. Heres my story.

I was a skinny kid, high metabolism, joined the Army straight out of HS, and served for 14 years. My heaviest I weighed during my service was 200, and that was after my injury. That was in 2006, when my life changed forever. I got injured, basically shattered my left leg, had a ruptured Achilles, torn labrum in my right shoulder. Subsequent surgeries and here we are, I am now short and fat. I am in bad shape, this past January, I went to the doc and when I weighed in I was 300 lbs. That was the last straw for me. I am 5ft 9in, and weigh 300 f***ing pounds, what a fat ass f***. So, I decided I gotta change.

I was talked into herbalife, and that is really just expensive and really a pain in the ass, I did that for 2 months and lost almost nothing. I was also going to the gym, starting off light, but better then nothing. I am limited due to my injuries, but getting better.

March, I went to GNC and started taking thier Lean Shake. I replace breakfast and lunch with this. For me it works, because I dont feel the need to stuff my face, and it is cheaper and tastes better then Herbalife. I have continued the gym, I am at 3-5 days a week, working cardio and weights.

June 1, I am now 280 lbs, and I have lost like 4-5 inches of my belly, and I actually dont hurt (knees) as much as I used to. 6 days a week at the gym, eating a healthier dinner and starting to track and make actual goals.

Basically here is my work out:
Chest/Tricepts (light weight/high reps)
Cardio 20-35 Mins of Elipticle
Back/Bicepts
Cardio 20-35 Mins
Shoulders
OFF DAY
Repeat

My goal is 5-10 lbs a month, and I want to get to 220, and then will reset my goals.

Sorry for the long post....Let the harrasment begin!
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Posted 06 June 2012 - 03:44 PM

Hey man thats awesome progress

You have to keep it up. That is the most challenging aspect of working out for either weight loss or muscle gain.
You have the right attitude. Setting goals and challenging your self to reach them is the key.

this video here is impressive


there is really no excuse anymore to not try to reach your goals
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Posted 06 June 2012 - 07:23 PM

I found this a few months ago on Yahoo.

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5 Foods to Reduce Belly Fat

If you are overweight then you must give a lot of attention to your nutrition. A bad diet can ruin the benefits of a good workout. So even if you regularly go to gym to get those perfect abs and reduce your belly fat, you must give proper attention to your diet. Always remember that food gives us the energy to carry on with our day to day activities so if you eat unhealthy food, you cannot expect to remain fit. To give you a headstart to a healthy diet, here are 5 foods that reduce belly fat:

1) Olive Oil - Olive oil is one of the wonder foods given to us by the nature. Did you ever notice how the Mediterranean people are so fit and healthy? Well the answer lies in the use of olive oil in their daily diet. Make no mistake, olive oil contains fat as well, but it is exactly the kind of fat that our body needs. You cannot expect to remove fat completely from your diet. If you do, you won't have energy to carry on your day to day activities. So you must concentrate on eating good fats and avoid bad ones. Olive oil contains good fats. It is also rich in antioxidants that will keep you fit and reduce the effects of aging.

2) Salmon - Salmon is a huge source of protein and omega 3 fatty acid. Omega 3 fatty acid is a very healthy type of fat that helps in toning the muscles and get that flat tummy. So if you work out regularly then you must have salmon to tone your muscles and reduce your belly fat,

3) Tomatoes - Tomato is a must-have vegetable that you must include in your daily diet. It is full of good nutrients that can help you have a healthy body. Sample this, tomatoes are an excellent source of iron and potassium plus they are also rich in Vitamin A and C. Apart from this, tomatoes contain a large amount of antioxidants. So if you are looking for a healthy body, you must not forget to include tomatoes in your daily diet.

4) Eggs - Eggs are healthy as they are full of proteins. This is the reason why they are so popular with people who work out regularly. But there is another benefit of having eggs. Eggs help you to control your hunger as they make you feel full. So if you yearn for a flat tummy, do not forget to include eggs in your diet.

5) Grapefruit - Grapefruit is rich in Vitamin C which is great for body. Grapefruit also slows down the digestion process which makes you feel full and helps you to reduce belly fat.

If you add the above items to your daily diet, you are sure to reduce your belly flat and get a flat tummy in no time.


Also Dubb mentioned this but tea is also something we should drink more of. After Dubb said that I started drinking more green tea and I've noticed it is true what people say about it. It's suppose to suppress your appetite and I've noticed on the days I drink a cup of green tea with my breakfast I'm really not hungry again until dinner time. On the days I don't drink green tea with breakfast I am hungry hours before dinner (I don't really eat lunch).

Another thing I stopped doing a while ago was I don't eat out anymore. I haven't eaten food that hasn't been cooked in my home in months. This way I can control how my food is cooked and I have a better idea of what I'm eating.

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You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 06 June 2012 - 10:15 PM

View Postsantana, on 06 June 2012 - 04:44 PM, said:

Hey man thats awesome progress

You have to keep it up. That is the most challenging aspect of working out for either weight loss or muscle gain.
You have the right attitude. Setting goals and challenging your self to reach them is the key.

this video here is impressive


there is really no excuse anymore to not try to reach your goals


That's just insane.
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Posted 07 June 2012 - 09:17 AM

The video was really touching. I definately have nothing on that guy! I am assuming he did that weight loss on yoga and diet?
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Posted 26 July 2012 - 01:18 PM

So...I have fallen off the bandwaggon. Missed a few days...then a week...then 2 weeks and now a month...I cannot believe how easy it is to quit...I am completely disgusted in myself....I am such a lazy fatass....just face it.
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Posted 26 July 2012 - 11:46 PM

View PostJSOTF, on 26 July 2012 - 02:18 PM, said:

So...I have fallen off the bandwaggon. Missed a few days...then a week...then 2 weeks and now a month...I cannot believe how easy it is to quit...I am completely disgusted in myself....I am such a lazy fatass....just face it.


Don't feel too bad because I fell off for a while back in May and June. It's much easier for me to stick to my diet and eat right than it is to come up with the motivation to work out. Like I could be doing it right now and I'm not. But you are exactly right it's surprising how missing a few days can easily turn into missing a few weeks. "I'll do it tomorrow," "I'll do it this weekend," "I'll do it starting on Monday." I have so much respect for those who make it into a lifestyle.

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You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 12:26 AM

I was renovating my new apartment and my lifestyle went to shit. Went from eating 5 healthy meals a day to two today... both take out. I just connected my stove today, first time since May that I have had a stove. Going to go food shopping tomorrow. Going to eat right for a week, then get back into the gym. I weighted 193lbs in the winter. I'm probably around 180lbs again.
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Posted 23 November 2015 - 07:42 PM

Just noticed this thread. I'm pretty much an expert at living healthy and exercise. 100`s of books and fitness magazines on nutrition, lifting and nutrition, and belong to several weightlifting forums. have 30`s years of experience of living the life and still study today. I only say I'm an expert because i live the life and believe in it fully and still study nutrition all the time because I want to live a long healthy life with little to no medical problems in old age and still be fit. It does work and its not easy at first.

I'm 45 and my cousin is 43 and we both live the same lifestyle. No one else we know in our age group in our city that we know well live unhealthy lives and 100% of them have some type of medical problems some have even died in their 30`s and 40`s because of their unhealthy lifestyles. All the ones that died...accept from car accidents that we know dies of heart attacks. My cousin and I have no health problems just injuries from sports and I have spinal cord damage from a doctor screw up from a failed back surgery. Other than that we are as healthy physically meaning heart heart rate, blood pressure, fat levels etc. as we were in our prime 20`s.



The single most important thing you can ever do in your life to lose weight and greatly increase your chances of having little to no health problems for almost your entire life is study proper nutrition vigorously. You can go to see a nutritionist to start if you want but it will usually cost you unless you have great insurance and learn proper nutrition to actually eat right. Not half ass. meaning learn actual proper nutrition and living it basically 99% of your life its ok to eat junk once in a while but most people that get into nutrition do zero studying and start buying store bought junk food that says low or no sugar or low fat or no fat. The fact is all that crap is still bad for you.

Proper nutrition cant be learned in stores or from people who think they know nutrition but never study it constantly. I can promise you those people aren't eating healthy even if they look fit.Even if they look fit if they eat like crap, smoke, etc. health problems will catch up to them usually betweem their late 30`to early 50`s

Exercise is important but its secondary to nutrition by miles. If you eat properly and never exercise your body will still be very healthy.

If you want to be healthy as possible in old age cardio workouts are far more important than any other types of exercise.

The most important exercises are those that strengthen the heart, stomach and back muscles, and the brain. Brain exercises are important because after the age of 25 you stop growing and you will notice within the next 10-15 years significant memory loss and forgetting things you learned if you dont keep your mind active. The heart for over all body health. The stomach and back is very important because there are very few lower back muscles so a strong fit stomach is needed to strengthen the lower back. basically 5-0%-60% of people develop back problems.

The stomach is the only muscle in the body that you can exercise 7 days a week without a day of rest in between so you ahould always incorporate stomach execise into every exercise routine. All other muscles require a day of rest to heal or you can damage them.


I'm friends with John Decola. He lives in my town and was Mr. America in 1969 when was Mr. Universe. He still works out today and just quit body building competetitions around 8 years ago. Absolutely amazing shape for a man in his 70`s. We used to work out in the same gym and he still works out today and you Cant exercise much anymore from my spinal cord injury but I still keep up on nutrition. Saw him last in late 2014 at The American Legion.

To clear on exercising....

There is no specific workout regime for everyone. It all depends on what you are looking to achieve. No matter what you are looking for dedication and not slacking off is the main key.

Exercise routines depend on what you are trying to become. Just losing weight, becoming partially fit like an average healthy person, strength conditioning, power weight lifting,body building, becoming athletic, or a hardcore complete pure athlete with a tremendous amount of seemingly unending strength and cardio.

I'm for the last one...a complete athlete but am now mostly stuck with nutrition with very little exercise and weight lifting because it cause me tremendous spinal cord pain if I go overboard that can last for day to months depending on how bad I over due things.

If you want real advice you wont get it at most gyms. Most of the trainers at average gyms dont know much at all but they will try to convince you otherwise. You are better off joining body building forums and ask questions.

Proper lifting is and absolute must meaning technique. You cant just throw up the weights ups without proper technique. Squats and curls are a big example. When you squat you should never bend your back at all and always wear a back brace when squatting anything but very light weight. if you are new to squatting always wear a back brace. When doing curls your entire body should remain completely still. if you are using your back when curling or throwing up the weights like with biceps curls its wrong technique When doing biceps or triceps curls only your elbows to your hands should ever b moving never your upper arms.

Also its best to learn the differences of incorporating very light weight high reps, light weights going down in weight with each set(sometimes referred to as speed lifting for cardio) regular lifting, and power lifting days. Also its best to learn what body parts should be worked out together in a workout to get the maximum out of it.

First before every workout you should always stretch a lot to prevent injury and always do at least one set of very light weight to loosen up your muscles. helps prevent injury

I have always found from professional body builders and legitimate strength and conditioning trainers that if you are weight lifting doing squats in the same workout as bench presses with squats being before benching will get the most out of the workout. Squats take a lot of energy out of your body so by the time you get to benching you will only be able to bench-press maybe 60%-70% of your normal maximum bench press weight but squats are one of the most core body building exercising for strength so benching afterwards even though you may be benching less weight you will increase your bench press strength. I could go on and on but this is more than a very long read and write. Sorry so long. the thread was made so I offered the best information and advice I could make.

I could go on about nutrition too but that is a huge topic. The best thing with nutrition is to give up on all fast food, candy, sugar, junk foods, fruit juices except for orange juice, drink skim milk, purified water, and green tea for the most part. Fruit juices are generally bad for you. Being a fruitarian is extremely bad. Eating fruits is ok but dont go overboard. Fruits are full of sugar and sugar(carbs) is the main thing, along with sodium, and saturated fats you want to get rid of out of your diet.

Basically if you really want to learn nutrition and exercises read read read on nutrition and exercise and weightlifting sites. Taking advice from people not very schooled is not the best method to get the most out of your routines. And I'm not saying anyone giving advice here doesn't know proper lifting and nutrition. I dont know what any of them have read or how long they have been exercising. I'm just saying more often than not only hard core exercisers know the craft well.

Also its best to go to a gym or have a dedicated workout partner. lifting at home by yourself is very hard for almost everyone to give complete dedication
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