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Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Jetsman05 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
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Posted 23 November 2008 - 10:45 PM

I'm not trying to be a cynic here, God knows I've been a Jets fan since the very late 70's. Today's game showed me just how good the Jets can be, as they didn't just beat the Titans, they BEAT UP the Titans. Given how long I've been watching the Jets however, I kept asking myself during the game (and asking my wife, who doesn't even care about football, btw): "When will the Jets screw this game up?"

They've been playing well lately, no doubt, but there's just this awful feeling in the pit of stomach that somehow this is going to come to a crash and burn end (I've witnessed the "Mud Bowl," the botched FG attempt against Cleveland in '87, being 15 minutes away from beating the Broncos in '98 and tw missed Doug Brien FGs against the Steelers in '04).

I will say this: Thomas Jones is running the ball extremely well, and the Jets OL is the best I've ever seen it since the Parcells era. But I want to get your thoughts: Are the Jets serious contenders to go to the SB? Some of the things that seriously scare me: Bob Sutton (thankfully not today) and the Jets D seem to go in to that "Brokeback Mountain" wussy soft-zone D whenever they have the lead, and that philosophy nearly cost them the game against NE last Thursday; I'm not sure the Titans really are the true measuring stick in the AFC without Vince Young. Teams such as Indy and New England are just beginning to wake up (I hate to say it, but Cassell is looking better with every start) and Ittsburgh and Baltimore are still extremely formidable teams, and I'm wondering if the Jets really do have enough to beat those teams come playoff time; and Favre, as great as he is (and he is great, read below), still throws way too many INTs.

Speaking of Favre, however, some announcer made this asinine comparison between him and Pennington, saying that Pennington has more passing yards than Favre this season. If that announcer actually watched film once in a while, he'd see that many of the TD's Favre has thrown for this season (including the one he threw across his body to Coles today) were passes that Pennington never could have completed.
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Posted 23 November 2008 - 11:16 PM

QUOTE (Inpain372 @ Nov 23 2008, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm not trying to be a cynic here, God knows I've been a Jets fan since the very late 70's. Today's game showed me just how good the Jets can be, as they didn't just beat the Titans, they BEAT UP the Titans. Given how long I've been watching the Jets however, I kept asking myself during the game (and asking my wife, who doesn't even care about football, btw): "When will the Jets screw this game up?"

They've been playing well lately, no doubt, but there's just this awful feeling in the pit of stomach that somehow this is going to come to a crash and burn end (I've witnessed the "Mud Bowl," the botched FG attempt against Cleveland in '87, being 15 minutes away from beating the Broncos in '98 and tw missed Doug Brien FGs against the Steelers in '04).

I will say this: Thomas Jones is running the ball extremely well, and the Jets OL is the best I've ever seen it since the Parcells era. But I want to get your thoughts: Are the Jets serious contenders to go to the SB? Some of the things that seriously scare me: Bob Sutton (thankfully not today) and the Jets D seem to go in to that "Brokeback Mountain" wussy soft-zone D whenever they have the lead, and that philosophy nearly cost them the game against NE last Thursday; I'm not sure the Titans really are the true measuring stick in the AFC without Vince Young. Teams such as Indy and New England are just beginning to wake up (I hate to say it, but Cassell is looking better with every start) and Ittsburgh and Baltimore are still extremely formidable teams, and I'm wondering if the Jets really do have enough to beat those teams come playoff time; and Favre, as great as he is (and he is great, read below), still throws way too many INTs.

Speaking of Favre, however, some announcer made this asinine comparison between him and Pennington, saying that Pennington has more passing yards than Favre this season. If that announcer actually watched film once in a while, he'd see that many of the TD's Favre has thrown for this season (including the one he threw across his body to Coles today) were passes that Pennington never could have completed.

I agree, The whole game I never really felt comfortable, waiting for something to go wrong. But that something never came. Maybe that in itself is a sign that we're ready to go to the big game!
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Posted 23 November 2008 - 11:29 PM

QUOTE (SignalZero @ Nov 23 2008, 11:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I agree, The whole game I never really felt comfortable, waiting for something to go wrong. But that something never came. Maybe that in itself is a sign that we're ready to go to the big game!


Actually this is the first game that I felt comfortable in a long time. From the outset we were in control. At one point we had 20 1st downs to the titans 5. We were in unison today. The offense was helping the defense by compounding long drives and the D was helping the offense by giving them the ball back. The gameplan was just amazing today.

I actually felt comfortable for the whole game. A rare thing for me. This team I think is ready for the playoffs.

The Denver game kinda a scares me though. Cutler is a throwing Q.B and thats what we struggle with. I see a shootout in the making!
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Posted 23 November 2008 - 11:52 PM

My opinion from what I see so far the only contenders for us in the AFC at this point would be Pittsburgh.Tennessee was dominated so bad by the Jets that I dont worry about them at all in the playoffs.That game wasnt even as close as the score indicated.

I think Baltimore has to many issues on offense to sustain enough drives to hang with the Jets.Pittsburgh is solid and I still may rank them above us at this point but either way the Jets are pretty solid too.
I still worry about the luck of New England if they make the playoffs and I wouldnt want to have to face the Fish in the playoffs.More or less I dont want any other AFC East teams in the playoffs.
Denver might be able to pull off a miracle in the regular season against the Jets but I think they would have a zero percent chance against the Jets in the playoffs.
Basically only Teams I have any worry about not in the East are....

Pittsburgh(all around)
Indianapolis(offense)
Baltimore(defense)
Chargers (offense)
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Posted 24 November 2008 - 12:24 AM

luckily you can pretty much call the chargers A wrap they're done...Pitt does not worry me at all, they are the same team as the titans in and out but with a more problematic defense. and you seee what we did to the titans DEE. However the only team in the conference that worries me is the Colts..I could care less what people have to say about that team, the fact of the matter is, is that they have Peyton Manning and that guy scares the fu*k outta me..All in all i've never been more happy about whats going on this season..this is awesome
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Posted 24 November 2008 - 01:01 PM

QUOTE (RetireChrebet @ Nov 24 2008, 05:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
luckily you can pretty much call the chargers A wrap they're done...Pitt does not worry me at all, they are the same team as the titans in and out but with a more problematic defense. and you seee what we did to the titans DEE. However the only team in the conference that worries me is the Colts..I could care less what people have to say about that team, the fact of the matter is, is that they have Peyton Manning and that guy scares the fu*k outta me..All in all i've never been more happy about whats going on this season..this is awesome


Pittsburgh scare me more than the Titans because all around on offense they are better team: Big Ben is better than Collins and at WR Ward, Holmes etc are far better than what Tennessee has. The RB situation is a bit of a toss up given the injuries to Willie Parker and Mendenhall, but I'd still give Pittsburgh a slight edge. Defensively they are stout, as ever.

The Colts worry me too simply because they can always put up points, as you pointed out. San Diego and Denver can both post points too although their Ds are pretty circumspect.

I'd prefer it if we saw teams we have already beaten, but that will never be the case.
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Posted 24 November 2008 - 01:17 PM

QUOTE (Inpain372 @ Nov 23 2008, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm not trying to be a cynic here, God knows I've been a Jets fan since the very late 70's. Today's game showed me just how good the Jets can be, as they didn't just beat the Titans, they BEAT UP the Titans. Given how long I've been watching the Jets however, I kept asking myself during the game (and asking my wife, who doesn't even care about football, btw): "When will the Jets screw this game up?"

They've been playing well lately, no doubt, but there's just this awful feeling in the pit of stomach that somehow this is going to come to a crash and burn end (I've witnessed the "Mud Bowl," the botched FG attempt against Cleveland in '87, being 15 minutes away from beating the Broncos in '98 and tw missed Doug Brien FGs against the Steelers in '04).

I will say this: Thomas Jones is running the ball extremely well, and the Jets OL is the best I've ever seen it since the Parcells era. But I want to get your thoughts: Are the Jets serious contenders to go to the SB? Some of the things that seriously scare me: Bob Sutton (thankfully not today) and the Jets D seem to go in to that "Brokeback Mountain" wussy soft-zone D iwhenever they have the lead, and that philosophy nearly cost them the game against NE last Thursday; I'm not sure the Titans really are the true measuring stick in the AFC without Vince Young. Teams such as Indy and New England are just beginning to wake up (I hate to say it, but Cassell is looking better with every start) and Ittsburgh and Baltimore are still extremely formidable teams, and I'm wondering if the Jets really do have enough to beat those teams come playoff time; and Favre, as great as he is (and he is great, read below), still throws way too many INTs.

Speaking of Favre, however, some announcer made this asinine comparison between him and Pennington, saying that Pennington has more passing yards than Favre this season. If that announcer actually watched film once in a while, he'd see that many of the TD's Favre has thrown for ths season (including the one he threw across his body to Coles today) were passes that Pennington never could have completed.

I agree, Favre has been making passes that Pennington could only dream about making. Favre has settled down and is playing within the team now. Making me much more happy, for a while he was playing like a idiot. Throwing retarded passes that almost or did cost us games. Favre is a master of short passes, its a phase of his game overlooked by people. People think of the deep pass with Favre, but what I loved with Favre watching him with Greenbay was his ability to zip a pass over the middle on slant routes and place it where the WR can take that ball 60+ yards for a score. He also has a quick releases, something we been missing. Favre isn't getting our WRs killed, hes getting them the ball fast enough where they can make a move to get past a defender rather than get their head knocked off with a floater coming towards them.

That pass Favre made to Coles for a TD was sick! The way he extended the play and threw it off balanced perfectly through 3 defenders right into Coles hands. That was beautiful!!

My only problem is I hope Favre comes back.. I think he will come back next season, hes having too much fun. I feel like we are being teased with having a actual QB that can make throws like that to a WR like he did to Coles.
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Posted 24 November 2008 - 03:48 PM

LOOK AT MY FAVORITE TEAMS! <<< I'm from CT. Thus the NY, Boston thing. I stuck it out with all the heartache of the Yankees owning the Redsox. Then came Epstein and Francona! I know how you all feel. I didnt know how to enjoy winning the series in 2004. I sat there and said, what do i do now?

Now we have tangini! We have beaten the nemesis and we WILL see them again this season and we WILL go through them again to get to the SB! I feel it in my stomach too. But it is going to happen!

TRUST ME ON THIS! It can be done.


On the Favre thing Jetsfan0099? Its your OL thats making this possible , Brett doesnt get the vision he's getting without the guys up front opening lanes. That slant to Cotchery is the prime example.
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Posted 24 November 2008 - 09:01 PM

I don't think any JETS fan who has seen this team year in year out for at least 15+ years can't ignore that voice in the back of your head saying "don't get excited these are the JETS" well I'm trying to remain grounded right now cause what we are seeing is too good to be true but if yesterday was the indication of the potential this team actually has going forward I will be real excited when the JETS make the playoffs but as of right with 5 regular season games left in the season I will remain grounded....this feels so similar to 1998 but I believe that with the way the JETS have just been continuing to improve as the season has gone along I think when the JETS get into the playoffs that we are going to be dangerous but right now I just want to see Consistency and then I'll be able to take a step back and see the big picture of how special this season and this team has the potential to be....
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Posted 24 November 2008 - 09:37 PM

this squad has more weapons then an any jets squad since '98. we keep getting better week by week. who knows how good we'll end up. do i dare believe?
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Posted 24 November 2008 - 11:29 PM

QUOTE (LocoJet @ Nov 24 2008, 09:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
this squad has more weapons then an any jets squad since '98. we keep getting better week by week. who knows how good we'll end up. do i dare believe?



just a quick side note .. loco .. today is the aniversary of your death to the patsy .. 25 years ago today

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Posted 24 November 2008 - 11:37 PM

november 22 1963. thats 45 i think. unless it's 1988 and nobody told me. crazy.gif
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