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MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:20 PM) Anyway go Hawks
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:21 PM) Why the Seahawks aren't very good this year. They have 22 or 24 undrafted players on their roster because they had to let hallf or over half of their team go from last year because of having to pay so much to certain star players
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:21 PM) No team with that many undrafted players on the roster is going to be good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:22 PM) I'm talking about the defense
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:22 PM) So they have an excuse
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:22 PM) How many starters are back from last year?
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:23 PM) They had to let defensive players go too. And that's why they refused to pay Chancellor. They don't have the money
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:24 PM) Most of the Defense is back from last season.. who besides the 2nd CB do they not have?
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:24 PM) I don't know how many starters. I didn't look through the whole active roster from last year to this year. But I know they let a good many starters go too
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:25 PM) Anyway we need them to win
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:26 PM) it puts us in a 4 way tie for the WC
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:26 PM) Maybe Hou can win the division
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:26 PM) They had to let a corner and safety go from the defense and some dline from the starting line up. And some players on the online too
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:27 PM) That's why Russel isn't getting protection and Lynch is having a down year
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:28 PM) Yeah but you need to chr
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:29 PM) check my list of tiebreakers we are down in division and conference games. If the Jets don't beat the Bills and win most of the conference games no playoffs
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:31 PM) Plus we are down in schedule strength to everyone in the hunt for the playoffs except Houston but they have the win and tiebreaker against the Jets
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:32 PM) Oh and also the Bills are below us in schedule strength but have a win against us so have tiebreaker for now
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:33 PM) Chiefs have the easy schedule in the league got the rest of the season so chances of them not getting in are slim
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:35 PM) Chiefs and Stelers are in the drivers seat
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:36 PM) Right but there is a lot of games to go still
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:36 PM) who knows maybe we beat Tenn NYG Dal and Buf
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:36 PM) 10-6?? Maybe
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:36 PM) 1 game at a time I agree
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:36 PM) KC and Oakland have to play each other twice
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:38 PM) Pitt Still has to play Cinn and Denver
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:39 PM) Who they may beat.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:41 PM) We just need Sea to win
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:41 PM) Game over
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:41 PM) Hawks win
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:42 PM) Well if they make the PAT
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:42 PM) My bad I thought Pitt had 0 timeouts left
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:46 PM) I don't trust Denver against any good team with their backup qb in. I except the Chiefs to overtake the division. They really don't trust him either since an injured Manning is the #2 qb. He barely won last week
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:47 PM) Ben is hurt now
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:47 PM) Don't think its anything big tho
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:48 PM) But Steelers losing today and if they lose against the Bengals would help
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:55 PM) Ben has a possible concussion
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 08:08 PM) And Pitt plays Indy next week
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 08:09 PM) If Pittsburgh lose it help if indy lose Houston might be in 1st and have a tie breaker over indy
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 08:16 PM) I just can't wait for Sunday. Me and my brother are going to the game. He's a giants fan. So somebody is going home mad
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 10:46 PM) Where is frosty??.and his MIGHTY DOLPHINS
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 10:58 PM) Marshall is 70 yards away from being our 1st 1000 yard receiver since cotch in 07
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 12:03 AM) f*** new England!! And gronk is hurt
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 12:04 AM) Nice to see the Pats won't have an undefeated season. That said the wheat her made the difference. Brady is accurate as heck and the snow affected the pass timing with the wr's
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 12:06 AM) Without the snow I couldn't see the Broncos winning that game. But again great to see the Pats chance at a perfect season go down the tubes
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Post icon  Posted 24 November 2008 - 04:28 PM

Not Exactly Playoff Scenarios
Posted on November 24th, 2008 by Andrew Weiss While every Jet fan in America (and overseas) will instantly remind me that looking ahead to the playoffs is a dangerous thing and invites bad karma, some analysis is in order for us to know who to root for in the coming few weeks.

Let’s start off with some things we would like to see.

1. NO PATRIOTS: No Jet fan on earth wants Belichick to make the playoffs. If you just became a Jets’ fan, here’s why. Because a) his team knows the Jets really well and always plays it tough, cool.gif his team has a lot of veterans who expect to win and who have playoff experience, c) he is a humorless jerk, d) he cheats, e) we’d all just love to see New England fans crushed and changing the channel when Sportscenter is on starting in early January for fear they might hear how good the Jets are.

2. NO COLTS: No Jet fan wants the Colts to make the playoffs because of Manning and because they play the no-huddle, which might offset our size matchup with their offensive line.

3. A BYE, PLEASE: We’d love the bye. Few coaches take better advantage of time off than Mangini and it would be nice to have an extra week for the older players (one in particular) to rest and heal. I’ll take the Jets over anyone given two weeks to prepare.

So how do we get the outcome we want considering the teams in a position to make the playoffs? First, let’s consider the division winners.

In the AFC East, let’s assume the Jets win out. While they might get picked off, particularly by a division opponent, Mangini’s teams, judging by 2006, do not slip once they start believing in themselves. In 2006, they were 5-5 with a far weaker team in week eleven and went 5-1 thereafter only losing to the Bills. This year’s Bills are not improving and they have nowhere’s near the confidence that the 2006 team had. I don’t believe in the Dolphins and the two west coast games don’t scare me much. So, if the Jets win out or even lose one of the next five, they win the division on record or tiebreakers.

Denver is liable to win the West. They now have a two game lead and San Diego can still blow games in a variety of ways. Whoever wins is probably first week fodder anyhow but one of them makes the playoffs even if they have a losing record. Tennessee, with an easy schedule, probably can not be caught by Indianapolis. They are almost guaranteed to win 13 by week 16 and, even if they lose their last two to Pittsburgh and Indy, they would still finish ahead of Indy by a game at 13-3, even if Indy wins out. This leaves the North, which will be very competitive since both Pittsburgh and Baltimore have tough remaining schedules.

So how do we get what we want?

The four division leaders make the playoffs. That’s likely to be the Jets, Steelers, Titans and Broncos, although the Ravens could make it interesting. That leaves two slots for wildcards. Who are they going to be?

Jets’ fans have to allow that Indy will probably make the playoffs. They are 7-4 with games against Cleveland, Cincinnati, Detroit and Jacksonville coming up before the matchup in week seventeen against the Titans. Let’s assume they’re 11-4 going into the last week. Who do we want to win the finale? Simple answer: Indy. We want this on the theory that we’d rather face the Colts than the Patriots. The Pats, after next weeks’ tough game against Pittsburgh, have Seattle, Oakland, Arizona and Buffalo. The Cardinals might give them some trouble. I would imagine they have one more loss in them by the final week. Win out or one loss, we still can expect them to finish with roughly the same record as the Colts. Since the Colts would win the tiebreaker, we would want them to be edged out on head-to-head.

So, if we want to keep the Pats out of the playoffs, we have to root for Indy and the AFC North teams. Go Pittsburgh. Go Ravens. The Ravens have the tiebreaker over the Pats with only three conference losses and two easily winnable conference games (against JAX and Cincinnati) other than the head-to-head game with Pittsburgh. The Pats already have four conference losses thanks to the Jets.

So we want the Steelers to win next week and we want the Ravens to win out. For the bye, we’d still like to see the Steelers lose to a non-conference opponent (in case they finish with the same record as the Patriots) to knock them down to an inferior record than the Jets since they have the tiebreaker over us with only one conference loss.

So root for Indy and the Ravens and let’s hope the Steelers and the Cardinals can beat up the Patriots. Either way, there are a number of scenarios where the Pats can win out and still miss the playoffs. Meanwhile, if we take care of business, we’ve got a chance to get what we want. That would be nice, for a change.


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Posted 24 November 2008 - 05:15 PM

it doesn't matter who the jets play. by the time playoffs begin, they'll be studying film in their living rooms b/c of their 1st week bye. the jets will win out and finish the season @ 13-3...very nice. yahoo.gif


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