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Jetsfan0099 Icon : (27 August 2014 - 10:18 PM) the excuses, Hill is just a terrible football player. no debate, just a fact. guy is soft as shit as well
Jetsfan115 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:43 AM) right cause all our other WRs were lighting it up
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 07:04 PM) Hill is useless bro lol
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:05 PM) All I can say I streamed this game and if anyone thinks about recording it from NFL Network at 4pm Eastern Saturday.....DONT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:07 PM) This game was pure sh1t. Even though it was back up players the Jets got totally destroyed in this game. After seeing this game Im really worried about the Jets starting core because these backup guys looked like they shouldn't have even been on the field at all. I just hope the starters are 3000 times better than these guys that played in game 4
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:09 PM) The Jets got horse f*cked by the Eagles in this game.
ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:24 PM) we are hosed in the secondary
ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:26 PM) we need to cut this assclown patterson
ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:34 PM) did Hill get cut yet?
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) lol. We might need to look at the Eagles cuts for possible 2nd and 3rd stringers
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) If they keep ZHill after this game I will be shocked.
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:38 PM) Philly gave us a worse ass whipping than Detroit gave Buffalo. only difference is we scored
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:42 PM) Im just wondering what manning will put up on our secondary? 70?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:12 PM) who cares about getting destroyed in a preseason game, especially the 4th one. Most of these guys won't even make the team
ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:15 PM) Hill cut yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:18 PM) FIRE IDZIK
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:21 PM) Yeah this game means nothing...except to Stephen Hill (who fumbled lol) and 115
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:23 PM) Hill is a bum, hes pretty much never shown much football skill. The Jets fucked up big time taking him over Alshon Jeffery.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:29 PM) I'm still pissed off about that
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:43 PM) Its not that Im worried about the preseason game itself. i could care less about that. Its the fact of how bad we got destroyed. And some of the guys will be on the team and others on the fringe so getting destroyed like that doesnt fill me with confidence
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:44 PM) It would be one thing if it was just the second half or 4th quarter but this was the whole game. especially getting destroyed in the 1st quarter and at least part of the 2nd where a lot of the guys will be on the team
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:48 PM) 2nd and 3rd stringers making the team had something to prove and even our 2nd stringers got owned so yes Im very concerned. The first stringers need breaks and also if some of them get injured they need to step up. So no after this performance start to finish Im very concerned
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 06:39 AM) Meh...you're reading too much into it
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 06:40 AM) Even in seasons where the Jets blew, I haven't seen anyone refer to the preseason to complain. Ever.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:15 AM) fire izdik http://theredzone.or...rs/Default.aspx
Jetsman05 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 11:17 AM) I picture Rob and 115 as real life friends
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 04:01 PM) Holmes can still play, problem is that hes also a cancer. He wore out his welcome with the Jets
ganggreen2003 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 08:23 PM) did Hill get cut?
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:00 PM) Haven't seen anything yet
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:06 PM) Whos ready for the season!!? WOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 11:54 AM) Hill has been cut
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:24 PM) Who wants to take bets he ends up in NE
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 02:18 PM) We'll I guess you guys are fools then in thinking im a fool for being concerned. Do any of you even know that in 2013 the Jets gave up the most passing yards in the franchise since 1986? And our secondary right now is worse than last year right now. To not be concerned is utterly foolish.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 02:19 PM) Unless our d-line has a monstrous year odds are the team will be eaten up in the pass. Every team will game plan to exploit the pass this year.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 02:56 PM) Patterson got cut
flood555 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:24 PM) Patterson must have been a huge cancer to get cut
flood555 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:26 PM) is there a midseason draft? we need a DB!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:58 PM) Our week 1 starting CBs will be Antonio Allen and Darrin Walls... wow
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:58 PM) interesting that Simms and Boyd were released
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:00 PM) No more McIntyre
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:20 PM) Pretty sure some of these cuts like Simms and McIntyre were made for removing some more cap space to try to find some decent corners and maybe another reliable wr. Possibly get some players cheap. I'd say the current 53 roster will change a good bit in the next week.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:23 PM) I just hope Geno doesn't get hurt or we are horse f*cked. Vick sure as hell can't stay healthy for a full season. I guess the FO could also be think of picking up an old vet cut as 3rd qb. Simms is ok but I'd never trust him to win a regular season game if he was put in.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:25 PM) Anyway it's going yo be an interesting week.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:18 PM) I doubt it was about freeing up money, considering we are way under. Like more than $20 mil, way more than enough to find some vet minimum CB
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:19 PM) it's more about the roster numbers. McIntyre was replaced by rookies. IK showed flashes when he played
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Post icon  Posted 26 November 2008 - 09:16 AM

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What a difference one year makes. At this time last season the Jets were one of the worst teams in the NFL, getting prepared to be shelled in Dallas on Thanksgiving Day. They had one of the worst Qbs in the league. The worst offensive line. A running back who looked like he didn’t care. A defensive line that got stood up as soon as the ball was snapped. Linebackers who weren’t even trying. A coaching staff that looked lost. It was a disaster.

And now one year later the Jets return home as arguably the best team in the AFC. One of the best Qbs in the NFL. The best offensive line in the AFC. A running back that looks like a different man. A defensive line that spends more time in the opponents backfield than on their backs. Linebackers that are playing aggressively. And a coaching staff that has found something special over these last 4 weeks. The Jets will be looking to build on these 4 weeks and keep their position on top of the AFC East as they match up with the AFC West leading Denver Broncos.

Jets Defense vs. Broncos Offense

After a fast start where the Broncos scored at least 34 points in their first three games, their offense has completely fizzled out managing over 20 points just twice in their last 8 games. The Broncos are somewhat over-reliant on their young QB Jay Cutler. Cutler has a super strong arm and physical tools that make scouts drool, but for all the yardage the team throws for they do not have an easy time scoring the points that should go along with all those yards. Cutler has plenty of weapons at his disposal. WR Brandon Marshall looks to be another in a long line of headcases at the position, but he is extremely talented. He has the ability to stretch the field and has great size. He is 5th in the NFL in receiving. Rookie Eddie Royal is very dangerous and has already had some monster games with over 150 yards receiving. He is not as consistent as Marshall, but for a rookie does a very good job of getting open underneath. Brandon Stokley is still a good third down receiver that will catch the ball over the middle and their Te’s do provide for tough matchup problems. Daniel Graham is a great red zone target while Tony Scheffler has the ability to really make some long catches for a tight end. After years and years of dominant running games the Broncos running game has fizzled out. They are trying to find the right combination out there and the run has become more of a side note in the offense than a focus of the offense. The running game in Denver leaves something to be desired. Peyton Hillis, a north south type runner, will get the bulk of the carries. Selvin Young, if he is recovered from a groin injury, should get some carries as well. Both players have been productive, but that is more from teams willing to give up some ground gains to defend the pass than it is from either being good players.

The Jets defense, having dominated three of the last four weeks, will look to make a statement that their much maligned pass defense is not as bad as people think it is. The Jets have been torn to shreds by premier and not so premier passing offenses, and this is looking like the one Achilles heel that the team may have this season. Denver is a tough matchup for the Jets in this respect as they run an offense that can make you cover so many receivers on any given play. The teams first task will be to find a way to limit what Brandon Marshall can do. The Jets may try to switch the coverage on him to not allow him to get used to one coverage option. Darrelle Revis matches up best for him and can use the sidelines to keep him in check, but the one poor game he had this year was against Dwayne Bowe, someone similar to Marshall in that he is much bigger and more physical than Revis. Ty Law could potentially be used to bang him at the line and then pass him off to a safety. Law doesn’t have the ability to keep up with Marshall if made to play single coverage with him. Most likely Law will spend most of the time harassing Royal at the line of scrimmage. Where the rest of the pass defense comes from is the big question. Stokley can provide the same problems that the Jets had with Jabar Gaffney against the Patriots. Hank Poteat might be the best option. Dwight Lowery has major problems and the other options are the awful Drew Coleman and even more awful Ahmad Carroll. The Jets could try David Barrett out there, but it looks like he may be used to try to cover one of the tight ends. Barrett was out there last Sunday trying to cover the Titan tight ends and he looked clueless, but that may be his best job out there. If the Broncos can get Scheffler matched up on a linebacker he can probably make a few big catches where he just outruns the slower Jets players. Keeping an eye on Graham in the red zone is something the staff has to drill into the heads of the players in practice.

It is unlikely that the Broncos can run on the Jets and its not very likely that they even try to do it. The way Kris Jenkins is playing in the middle makes it impossible to get a run game going. He could play a big role in getting to Cutler. While Cutler has hardly been touched this year, most of his sacks have come against 34 teams where the nose is holding up the interior allowing either and end to slip into the backfield or one of the linebackers to get to Cutler. Teams usually don’t blitz from the secondary on the Broncos because of all the weapons they possess, but the Jets best blitz packages often come from the secondary and they might take a chance to two to set the tone of the game. One of the other major questions is if the Broncos will try and attack the Jets weak points in the passing game or will wait until it is too late to hit those secondary targets. When Cutler takes the field his first thought is to go long and his second thought is to go longer. If he is not patient enough to find the Stokley’s of the team over and over to keep the chains moving they will likely not have much success.

Jets Offense vs. Broncos Defense

Quite simply the Denver defense is a joke. In 6 games this year they have given up 30 points, many of which were against teams that don’t usually score much anything, and only twice have held a team under 20 points. Denver constantly uses a rotation of players up front refusing to settle on a set group of players which has seemed to hurt them the last few years. The interior defense is extremely vulnerable to the run. Their tackles, led by former Jet DeWayne Robertson, just do not get any penetration or any hands on the runners to slow them down. DE Elvis Dumerville is a pass rushing specialist and has made that an area that teams are just pounding on with the run. Runners are easily getting around the corner and guards or tackles are able to get to the second level and block for their man. Things have gotten extremely bad since LB DJ Williams went down with an injury in early November. Williams was their leading tackler and one person that could at least get to the runner. He will sit this game out. None of the other linebackers are worth much anything. The team invested a lot of money in their secondary and they certainly have talent in Champ Bailey, one of the best corners of his generation, and Dre Bly, but the results just have not paid off as Denver would have liked. Bailey has missed the prior few games with a groin injury but is expected to play against the Jets, though he will not be 100%. The depth behind those two is poor, The Broncos safeties have been a concern all year. They get lost in coverage and don’t offer run support either. Between the lack of pass rush and lack of talent the Broncos get thrown on at will. Overall the team is giving up a staggering 69.9% completion percentage to the opposition.

The Jets are the best offense in the AFC and the Broncos will have a hard time keeping up with this unit. The offense showed glimpses during the first half of the season, but now has everyone on the same page and is firing on all cylinders seemingly every time they touch the football. The offensive line has done an outstanding job of controlling the game for the Jets. They have dominated the last four opponents including the top ranked defense in the NFL. They should be able to continue their success this weekend in controlling the Broncos linemen and opening huge holes for Rbs Thomas Jones and Leon Washington. Jones should be able to churn out big run after big run to control the clock while Washington is going to be a major threat to score going off tackle on either a sweep or screen. The Broncos have to be well aware of the challenge posed by Brett Favre this week as well. Their secondary has been efficiently dismantled by the names of Brady Quinn, Jamarcus Russell, Matt Ryan, and David Garrard and now they will face one of the best in Favre. The Broncos will have an extremely tough time matching up with the Jets receivers. In recent weeks they have had all kinds of problems matching up with any type of speed which will allow Favre to take a few chances with Coles and do not be surprised if Chansi Stuckey sees him name called. Dustin Keller, quickly developing into a major threat for the Jets, is going to get his chances as well as Denver does not do a great job covering the tight ends. The Jets can attack this defense through the air either with the short timing patterns of recent weeks or with 20+yard patterns designed to quickly move the team down the field. Offensively this has the makings of a run and pass for 200 type of game.

Special Teams

Denver does not do a great job covering kicks and it has been a problem for them this season in their shootout type of games. They have given up one punt return for a touchdown and one kickoff for a touchdown and rank right near the bottom of the NFL in return yards allowed. Washington will be looking to break one early on to give the Jets the advantage. Royal can be a dangerous returner for the Broncos if the Jets are not careful.

Denver’s field goal kicker is in a funk and can not seem to find his way between the uprights anymore. He has a big leg and has made 5 field goals over 50 yards, but right now is not reliable from anywhere. Jay Feely looks to have locked down the position for the Jets for the rest of the season while Reggie Hodges has done well enough in the limited amount of times he is asked to punt. At the end of the day, the Jets should clearly have the advantage in special teams.

Coaching


There are times when great coaches just can no longer move forward with a team and that is where Mike Shanahan is at in Denver. He has lost to both the Chiefs and Raider this year which is about as bad as it can get for a coach. Denver has missed the playoffs two years in a row under Shanahan and will only make it this year by default as the rest of the West is simply that much worse than Denver. Shanahan has made a mess of the defense and has not really helped Cutler turn the corner from being a fantasy QB to a winning QB in his 3 years in the NFL. Shanahan is a great coach, but ever since the switch from Jake Plummer to Cutler the team has done nothing but underachieve.

Eric Mangini can put a mark on his resume with a win this week. Bill Belichick, Jeff Fisher, Mike Shanahan- back to back to back wins. That is a great accomplishment. The Jets have done a great job these last four games in their preparation for the games and have come out looking much better prepared than their opponents to start every game which says a great deal about the preparation Mangini and his staff are bringing to the games. There is still that worry about how the team calls the defense from ahead, and Denver will be a challenge for Mangini in that they bring some of the same strengths that New England and Arizona brought when playing from far behind.

Overall

The Jets will get a huge ovation when they take the field this week and deservedly so. The 12th man will make this an environment early on that can really hurt the Denver Broncos both offensively and defensively. If they can not take the crowd out early it may be a long day for the Broncos. Denver is not a very good road team and is constantly giving up a boatload of points away from home, while the Jets have been a dominant team at home, especially offensively. Anyway you slice it that is a very hard matchup for the Broncos.

Can the Jets lay down this week? It’s doubtful. The team doesn’t have anything wrapped up and everything the team is saying seems to show that they are looking at the much bigger picture and they know the bigger picture means winning out. Would a loss hurt the Jets this week? Not too much. They would still be in the lead of the AFC East and would either remain tied for the second seed or be one step closer to the division if the Steelers beat the Patriots. So the sky isn’t falling if things do not go the Jets way, but certainly a win puts the Jets in a very powerful position in the AFC.

For Denver to win this game they are going to have to score in the 30s and the way the Jets defense is playing combined with the way the offense dominates the football it will be hard to imagine them doing it. The Broncos just do not seem mentally strong enough to go into a hostile environment and beat a quality team on the road. I know I said I’d pick against them just to keep the streak alive, but it is very hard to make a case for Denver this week. Jets in a romp. Have a Happy Thanksgiving…

Jets 39 Broncos 17

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Posted 26 November 2008 - 10:10 AM

Jets just need to use the same formula they did against the Titans, run the ball, eat the clock up, and don't let them score when they get on the field.

Shanahan is overrated and has been living off SB wins from 10 years ago.
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Posted 26 November 2008 - 02:02 PM

I agree this game really shouldn't be a contest but you never know, they have to show up because this is a potential trap game (is that term usable in the NFL?) coming off a big win against an undefeated team.
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Posted 26 November 2008 - 02:30 PM

Great read. I didnt agree with the Jets having one of the worst qb`s in the NFL statement but it is hard to argue with a 4-12 record last year.
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Posted 27 November 2008 - 09:06 AM

Honestly...as inconsistent as the broncos have been...if that offense is on this will be a challenge. The bronc's actually scare me more than the titans. When will a team try to spread this jets defense out for a whole game? When we are up big and teams are forced to pass teams have driven down the field with ease at times. This may be the game in which we see someone try to beat us with this type of game plan. Teams know they can't run on us so why even try? Their defense has not been great but if this game turns into a shoot out the team with the ball last could win. even though they were killed against the raiders...shutting down this offense would be another step in proving that this jets team is for real.

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