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SackExchange71 Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:31 PM) Imo i still think howard is better then giacomini..Wish they never let him walk.Giacomini had alot of flags in seattle also
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:33 AM) Howard recieved a huge contract in Oakland. Way over his actual value.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 10:08 AM) So did we make a trade for a CB yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
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20 Ed Reed FS
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31 Fabian Washington in 2008
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (20 August 2014 - 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The JETS are #6 in the Forbes List for most franchise value
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Post icon  Posted 26 November 2008 - 09:34 AM

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Oates: Favre trade a bad decision By TOM OATES
608-252-6172 toates@madison.com Four months after Green Bay traded quarterbacking icon Brett Favre to the New York Jets because he waffled again on his retirement and the Packers finally decided to move on, the Brett Favre effect is front and center for all to see.

With five games still to play, the historically lousy Jets have doubled their victory total from last season.

Meanwhile, after their 51-29 loss to New Orleans Monday night, the perennially strong Packers have suffered twice as many losses as they did all last season.

If you're doing the math on the most controversial trade in Packers history, it doesn't get any clearer than that.

The Jets were 4-12 last season and to be fair acquired help in both lines in addition to trading for the 39-year-old Favre. Still, they're 8-3 and leading the tough AFC East Division.

The Packers were 13-3 last season and basically stood pat personnel-wise, except for replacing Favre with understudy Aaron Rodgers. Now they're 5-6 and trail two teams in the soft NFC North Division.

Favre lovers will look at those numbers and conclude that general manager Ted Thompson and coach Mike McCarthy blew it. Favre haters will point out that the Packers have regressed as a team in other areas and it's wrong to pin the blame on Rodgers.

Guess what? Both sides are right.

Thompson and McCarthy and make no mistake, McCarthy had as much or more to do with Favre's departure as Thompson did decided to play for the future instead of the present when they opted for Rodgers over Favre in early August. The Packers' top brass surely hoped the team wouldn't have to pay a short-term penalty for that decision, but it hasn't worked out that way so far.

Although the Packers have secured their future at quarterback and will probably reap a second-round draft pick from the Jets, it is obvious by now that the team would have a better record this season if Favre were under center. He's infinitely more experienced than Rodgers and, despite his age, more gifted athletically.

Of course, none of this is Rodgers' fault. As with any young quarterback, there were going to be growing pains whenever he assumed the starting job.

By his own admission, Rodgers has not played well in his last two road games, both in domes. In losses at Minnesota and New Orleans, he got out of character when things started going bad and was loose with the ball.

It's safe to say that playing in those two domes would not have been an issue with Favre and that the Packers' record would be better today if he were their quarterback.

One reason the Packers dealt Favre was that they decided he could no longer win in cold weather, which means he couldn't win in the playoffs. Of course, they had no assurances that Rodgers could even get them to the playoffs, a destination that now appears shaky at best.

In retrospect, the Favre trade made sense only if you were willing to write off this season as a learning experience for Rodgers.

Given the overall strength of the Packers and the weak state of the NFC North, that seemed like a short-sighted decision four months ago and an even worse decision today.

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Posted 26 November 2008 - 10:48 AM

Its funny how pissed Packers fans are. They have the right to be also, I was viewing a Packers message board. And I saw one Packers fan said that if they had Favre the coaches would be coaching better, the defense would be playing better, the team would of drafted better, the fans would be cheering better, the refs would be reffing better.
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