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ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (23 September 2016 - 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 10:09 AM) BREAKING NEWS: Santana is a jinx during JETS games
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 11:40 AM) HUGE game today
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 11:40 AM) Santana PLEASE refrain from entering the BanterBox cause you are a JINX
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The Broncos Did Their Homework So much for 13-3...paper champions

#1 User is offline   Camenzind Icon

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 08:30 PM

Some observations about the game:

The Broncos clearly did their homework, studying the film of the New England game. The following is two glaring weaknesses of the Jets:

1. OFFENSE: The Jets perimeter game is lacking. Coles and Cotchery simply CANNOT get separation from corners in one on one coverage. Consequently, Favre has to restrain himself from throwing his beloved go routes because they get picked off EVERYTIME. This deficiency clearly stunts the potential of the rest of the offense. This game is all about mismatches. Other than Keller and Washington, we have a difficult time creating them. Clowney obviously does not have an adequate grasp of the offense or he would be on the field. The Jets love that empty backfield shotgun formation. Teams rarely blitz Favre in this situation. If I was a defensive coordinator, I'd blitz the shit out of him. Why? The Jets don't have a blitz beater outside. In fact, I rarely see a safety roll over to either Coles or Cotchery on go routes.

2. DEFENSE: Contrary to popular belief, you CAN run on the Jets. It must, however, be from the SPREAD formation. The Jets do not have the talent to combat underneath routes run by tight ends and running backs. Once again, we were tortured by slip screens, quick outs and short square in routes. Also, we have a weak pass rush. That's right, you read correctly. The Jets amassed a lot of sacks early in the season via blitzes. They do not have one guy that can get to the quarterback on his own. Ghoulston was suppose to be that guy. He has not produced.

For the past couple of weeks, I kept quiet. After the Tennessee win, I was afraid the Jets would get fat on their recent success. The New York papers barely discussed the Broncos this week. It was all about the playoffs. Bad sign right there.

Now we travel cross country to San Francisco. It will be imperative for the Jets to get up early and ride Jones the whole game. Be worried...be very worried.
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Posted 30 November 2008 - 08:40 PM

You hit the nail on the head Camenzind! I am not feeling too confident about any of the 4 remaining games, i am thinking 2-2 finish, wildcard loss and a return to comfort as a jets fan
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Posted 30 November 2008 - 08:45 PM

QUOTE (wildchildsixx @ Nov 30 2008, 09:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You hit the nail on the head Camenzind! I am not feeling too confident about any of the 4 remaining games, i am thinking 2-2 finish, wildcard loss and a return to comfort as a jets fan


agree%100

today brought everyone down to reality as to what this jets tream really is. the denver broncos showed us all what a playoff team looks like. This is what the ny media gets for even thinking they could mention the jets and super bowl in the same sentence.
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Posted 30 November 2008 - 08:49 PM

You left out the part that our jumbo OLBs can't cover TEs.
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Posted 30 November 2008 - 08:52 PM

Look we can't win them all. I love how all the darksiders rear their ugly heads after a loss.

Why should we be afraid of the 9ners?.. I'm not worried at all. The niners are going to be dealing with a pissed off Jets team. They should be worried. David Harris will be back.. The Pats loss makes this loss more tolerable.
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Posted 30 November 2008 - 09:08 PM

QUOTE (S-Dubb @ Nov 30 2008, 08:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Look we can't win them all. I love how all the darksiders rear their ugly heads after a loss.

Why should we be afraid of the 9ners?.. I'm not worried at all. The niners are going to be dealing with a pissed off Jets team. They should be worried. David Harris will be back.. The Pats loss makes this loss more tolerable.



I mostly agree, I don't look past any west coast trip but I think they will get things in order this week, this is their first loss since mid October, the sky is not falling. NO loss is good but I think the timing of this one is.
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Posted 30 November 2008 - 09:10 PM

QUOTE (S-Dubb @ Nov 30 2008, 07:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Look we can't win them all. I love how all the darksiders rear their ugly heads after a loss.

Why should we be afraid of the 9ners?.. I'm not worried at all. The niners are going to be dealing with a pissed off Jets team. They should be worried. David Harris will be back.. The Pats loss makes this loss more tolerable.


It never changes. When we win, everyone's thinking Super Bowl while complaining that the media's hyping us up too much. And when we lose, everyone's thinking season's over and still complaining about media.

We lost, it happens... winning 7 out of 9 including an overtime win versus a team we can never beat.. as well as beating—wait, no—killing the only undefeated team left [both on the road] isn't a sign we're good?

No, we get beat in a sloppy game and that's it—pack it in!

It doesn't really matter none, we could have won 9 in a row and lost to the Dolphins to end the season, and even if it didn't mean anything I'd be reading a thread that says we're not going anywhere in the playoffs cuz blah, blah, blah.

When this happens I'm really reminded of a guy who goes to the same sports bar as me. When Leon's running a kick back for a TD, or Favre's throwing a 50 yard TD pass, he just sits quietly, almost like hes uninterested.

But as soon as there's a Jets penalty or an Int, this guy's flipping shit like he owns the team. Some people need to invert their attitudes.

We lost to a team that played better than us. Now we need to go to San Fran and play better than another team, and as extremely crazy as it will sound to 75% of the Jets fans out there, I'm going to root for the Jets to succeed, while expecting them to do so at the same time.


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Posted 30 November 2008 - 09:13 PM

QUOTE (Maynard13 @ Nov 30 2008, 09:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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It never changes, when we win, everyones thinking Superbowl while complaining that the medias hyping us up too much and when we lose, everyone thinking season over and still complaining about media.

We lost, it happens... winning 7 out of 9 inculding a Overtime win vs a team we can never beat as well beating, wait no, killing the only undefeated team leaft[both on the road] isn't a sign were good? No, we get beat in a sloppy game and thats it, pack it in. It doesn't really matter none, we could have won 9 in a row and lost the the Dolphins to end the season and even if it didn't mean anything I'd be reading a thread that says were not going anywhere in the playoffs cuz blah, blah, blah.

When this happens I'm really reminded of a guy who goes to the same sports bar as me. When Leons running a kick back for a TD, or Favres throwing a 50 yrd TD pass, he just sits quietly, almost like hes uninterested. But as soon as theres a Jets penalty or a Int, this guys flipping shit like he owns the team. Some people need to invert their attitudes.

We lost to a team that played better than us, so now we need to go to San Fran and play better than another team, and, as extremely crazy as it will sound to 75% of the Jets fans out there, I'm going to root for the Jets to succeed, while expecting them to do so at the same time.



Good post bro.
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Posted 30 November 2008 - 09:16 PM

QUOTE (Maynard13 @ Nov 30 2008, 09:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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It never changes, when we win, everyones thinking Superbowl while complaining that the medias hyping us up too much and when we lose, everyone thinking season over and still complaining about media.

We lost, it happens... winning 7 out of 9 inculding a Overtime win vs a team we can never beat as well beating, wait no, killing the only undefeated team leaft[both on the road] isn't a sign were good? No, we get beat in a sloppy game and thats it, pack it in. It doesn't really matter none, we could have won 9 in a row and lost the the Dolphins to end the season and even if it didn't mean anything I'd be reading a thread that says were not going anywhere in the playoffs cuz blah, blah, blah.

When this happens I'm really reminded of a guy who goes to the same sports bar as me. When Leons running a kick back for a TD, or Favres throwing a 50 yrd TD pass, he just sits quietly, almost like hes uninterested. But as soon as theres a Jets penalty or a Int, this guys flipping shit like he owns the team. Some people need to invert their attitudes.

We lost to a team that played better than us, so now we need to go to San Fran and play better than another team, and, as extremely crazy as it will sound to 75% of the Jets fans out there, I'm going to root for the Jets to succeed, while expecting them to do so at the same time.

drinks.gif Well said!!
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Posted 30 November 2008 - 10:37 PM

Not stressing that much.

1. Weather was a game changer
2. We needed a loss to WAKE UP the team and bring them down a notch....in case they were getting high on themselves
3. David Harris is back next week....should help shore up run D
4. Walked away healthy from a poor condition field
5. Will make us work hard in the next 4 games
6. Pats got the clocked cleaned by Pitt
7. We play San Fran, Seattle & a fading Buffalo at home in the next 3. Will allow us to continue to fine tune
8. While a big weakness was exposed.....how many teams have the likes of a Marshall, Royal, Stokley, Scheffler, & Graham....not many. I am ok with it


Bottom line...we ARE a good team. Just need to refocus for the playoff run. Everyone has a clunker in them...we just had one. No reason to freak....just continue to practice hard and game plan for next week. This team HAS the ability to go far.
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Posted 30 November 2008 - 11:31 PM

we didnt match up well with the broncs.

our secondary needs to step it up. those underneath routes murdered us once again.
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Posted 30 November 2008 - 11:40 PM

QUOTE (santana @ Nov 30 2008, 11:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
we didnt match up well with the broncs.

our secondary needs to step it up. those underneath routes murdered us once again.


that was pretty much it. i'm imagining we spent a lot of time this week thinking about slowing down the pass. in return, the run game was able to get going against us too.

We're simply a bad team in the secondary.

and people getting mad that we couldn't sack a quarterback that's been sacked the least in the NFL? sometimes something has to give.

There was a Gholston sighting today though.. and his pass rush resulted in a 30+ yard completion on the run. he took a bad angle. But the gloom and doom here is pretty bad. it's kind of why I hate coming to the forums after a game. guaranteed to see some members that had nothing to say when we were winning. that's nothing personal either, Camenzind. I think you're a great member here.

But it's like clock work. People that aren't around all week pop up on Sunday to make a post after an interception, or a loss, or anything negative. it's just not fun.
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Posted 01 December 2008 - 12:19 AM

QUOTE (Amen @ Nov 30 2008, 11:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But it's like clock work. People that aren't around all week pop up on Sunday to make a post after an interception, or a loss, or anything negative. it's just not fun.


Pretty much.. Wheres the love when we stopming the titans and beating the Pats? In back to back games? I'm starting to see a tread as well.

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Not stressing that much.

1. Weather was a game changer
2. We needed a loss to WAKE UP the team and bring them down a notch....in case they were getting high on themselves
3. David Harris is back next week....should help shore up run D
4. Walked away healthy from a poor condition field
5. Will make us work hard in the next 4 games
6. Pats got the clocked cleaned by Pitt
7. We play San Fran, Seattle & a fading Buffalo at home in the next 3. Will allow us to continue to fine tune
8. While a big weakness was exposed.....how many teams have the likes of a Marshall, Royal, Stokley, Scheffler, & Graham....not many. I am ok with it


Bottom line...we ARE a good team. Just need to refocus for the playoff run. Everyone has a clunker in them...we just had one. No reason to freak....just continue to practice hard and game plan for next week. This team HAS the ability to go far.


You and I are always on the same page TLJ. I agree 100%.
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Posted 01 December 2008 - 04:35 AM

QUOTE (Amen @ Dec 1 2008, 01:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But it's like clock work. People that aren't around all week pop up on Sunday to make a post after an interception, or a loss, or anything negative. it's just not fun.


I try and keep my bad mouthing to the chatroom myself ((Because hey everyone has to vent dammit!))but honestly after a piss poor performace you are gonna have miserable fans that is clockwork on any team.

We knew our secondary is having problems and it would show this week. It did so I don't see why people are so upset about it. Cutler had a GREAT game with this weather but you could see easy catches dropped on both sides. Just like I had to tell my wife today while she was complaining today: Holy shit woman we already won twice as many games as last season and we are still on the road to the playoffs and a possible division title!

Cheer up Jets fans and get off your high horses! Every team has holes in it and we just got outplayed today. Next week we will tear it up and you will all have to complain about how our prevent defese gave up 21 points to let SF pull within 14! drinks.gif
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Posted 01 December 2008 - 07:57 AM

QUOTE (SecondHandJets @ Nov 30 2008, 08:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You left out the part that our jumbo OLBs can't cover TEs.

You guys would not be happy if we went 13-3 every year. In those losses, you would find so many weaknesses it would make you miserable. Bottom line: we played a more determined opponent and don't forget that they get paid too!
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