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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 07 December 2008 - 07:37 PM

David Harris had a good game... Had like 2 or 3 TFL and a sack. Also had 13 tackles, was good to see him back...... To bad Kris Jenkins decided that he doesn't want to try anymore since last week. And our DB can't cover my grand mother, and our pass rush couldn't get to a turtle with how bad they are........


I guess this is why they are the Jets huh????? Older fans is this what the rest of my life as a Jets fan is going to be like???
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Posted 07 December 2008 - 07:48 PM

You're crazy. This defense sucks and I saw Harris out of position on BIG pass plays about 10 times. I don't give a shit about stats. Stats don't tell the whole story. This defense sucks plain and simple. Harris is sucking balls too. So what, so he got about 7 tackles about 10 yards down the field. That certainly isn't something to be happy about.

Face it, we suck. Stop trying to make a positive because that's like putting sprinkles on a turd and calling it a cup cake.
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Posted 07 December 2008 - 07:50 PM

LOL something positive...Ha ha
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Posted 07 December 2008 - 07:53 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Dec 7 2008, 07:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You're crazy. This defense sucks and I saw Harris out of position on BIG pass plays about 10 times. I don't give a shit about stats. Stats don't tell the whole story. This defense sucks plain and simple. Harris is sucking balls too. So what, so he got about 7 tackles about 10 yards down the field. That certainly isn't something to be happy about.

Face it, we suck. Stop trying to make a positive because that's like putting sprinkles on a turd and calling it a cup cake.

I don't know what you were watching but Harris wasn't the one getting beat downfield.... He was mainly rushing the passer on passing downs and his tackles were not 10 yards down the field. More within 5 yards. Actually I saw Eric Barton getting beat a few times downfield.

I will say this....... If Brandon Spikes enters the draft, he is THE guy I want with the first rounder... We need a ILB that is big enough to shed blockers but athletic enough to cover. He does both extremely well from what I've saw.
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Posted 07 December 2008 - 07:54 PM

QUOTE (Mangini`s Jets @ Dec 7 2008, 07:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
LOL something positive...Ha ha


I know, it's ridiculous. This team sucks at every single possible phase of the game. I never thought I'd see the day that Chad Pennington would have a better pass yard per attempt than Brett Favre. What the fuckin kind of offense are we running? The whole package is pathetic. We are lucky to have 8 wins because honestly we are more looking at 4 wins. We got lucky against the Phins, we got lucky against KC and we sure as hell got lucky against the Pats. Probably should have lost to the Cards considering we gave up 30 points in the 2nd half. Come on!


This season is over. If they even get lucky enough to squeak into the playoffs they are one and done against a team like the Colts or Baltimore. They will eat us alive.
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Posted 07 December 2008 - 07:54 PM

QUOTE (Mangini`s Jets @ Dec 7 2008, 07:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
LOL something positive...Ha ha



yeah Jetsfan this is what you have in store for yourself welcome to the club, but like the NY Rangers iun 94 when they win it will be sweet but it is looking more and more like it ain't gonna be this year again
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Posted 07 December 2008 - 07:57 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Dec 7 2008, 07:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Stats don't tell the whole story.



No they dont but they can be useful.He may have had a decent game but I did come up with a stat sheet of games showing the defense wasnt any better with Harris in or out this year.

The problems on defense are really from bad coaching.Getting beat a few times is one thing but all the time means bad coaching period.
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Posted 07 December 2008 - 07:59 PM

Our defensive problems are because players play with no fire.... We need a DC that can bring the fire.. We need to keep drafting defensive players also..... BRANDON SPIKES FOR 09!!!!!!!!
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Posted 07 December 2008 - 09:27 PM

QUOTE (twisted310 @ Dec 7 2008, 07:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yeah Jetsfan this is what you have in store for yourself welcome to the club, but like the NY Rangers iun 94 when they win it will be sweet but it is looking more and more like it ain't gonna be this year again


I`ve been in the club. I`m not a 20 something. Mark Messier was the man back in the day especially when he was a member of the Oilers from the late 80`s.
As for the Jets i really had my hopes up for a while but deep down inside you just know it will ALWAYS end up being the same ole Jets(SOJ).Its been 29 yrs of misery 4 me.
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Posted 07 December 2008 - 09:30 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Dec 7 2008, 07:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Our defensive problems are because players play with no fire.... We need a DC that can bring the fire.. We need to keep drafting defensive players also..... BRANDON SPIKES FOR 09!!!!!!!!


BRING BACK DONNIE HENDERSON!!!........... biggrin.gif
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