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Posted 31 December 2008 - 12:47 AM

We are going to be giving him an interview. Why hasn't this guy gotten a job yet? Hes been the Ravens DC since 2005. Has had top 10 defenses each year. What is so bad about him? I love the way he calls the plays, he attacks. I wonder if he is just not a HC type.
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Posted 31 December 2008 - 02:18 AM

He's really not HC material, I think people are starting to realize the same thing about Ravens coordinators that they did about Patriots and Steelers coordinators. They're not all that great when they leave the nest.
They are made to look like geniuses because of the talent they had to work with. Before him everyone thought Nolan was a defensive guru and he goes to the 9ers and bombs out defensively. The same thing with Marvin Lewis before him and his defensive problems in Cinci are well documented. Anyone could look like an offensive genius when they have Peyton Manning as their QB and the same can be said about Ray Lewis .

Same thing with a long list of Steeler Defensive Coordinators like Dick Lebau, Tim Lewis, Jim Haslett. All those guys were thought to be HC material but in reality they were lifetime coordinators. What makes you a great HC is not the same as what makes you a great Coordinator. When you are a coordinator its all about X's and O's and being able to coach up and develop players. When your a HC its about keeping the team motivated, disciplined and focused on a goal while maintaining their respect. Its why Mangini wasn't a successful HC, why Norv Turner isn't a successful HC, or Cam Cameron, Charlie Weis.. Etc...

Most of those guys will probably learn that for their 2nd stint if they get one. BB is a prime example of that. He was a terrible HC in CLE because he was an X's and O's guy but when he got to NE he became a master of motivation.



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Posted 31 December 2008 - 02:20 AM

I'm a fan of Rex Ryan. I would love to have him apart of my team.
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Posted 31 December 2008 - 10:59 AM

QUOTE (JIG-SAW @ Dec 31 2008, 02:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He's really not HC material, I think people are starting to realize the same thing about Ravens coordinators that they did about Patriots and Steelers coordinators. They're not all that great when they leave the nest.
They are made to look like geniuses because of the talent they had to work with. Before him everyone thought Nolan was a defensive guru and he goes to the 9ers and bombs out defensively. The same thing with Marvin Lewis before him and his defensive problems in Cinci are well documented. Anyone could look like an offensive genius when they have Peyton Manning as their QB and the same can be said about Ray Lewis .

Same thing with a long list of Steeler Defensive Coordinators like Dick Lebau, Tim Lewis, Jim Haslett. All those guys were thought to be HC material but in reality they were lifetime coordinators. What makes you a great HC is not the same as what makes you a great Coordinator. When you are a coordinator its all about X's and O's and being able to coach up and develop players. When your a HC its about keeping the team motivated, disciplined and focused on a goal while maintaining their respect. Its why Mangini wasn't a successful HC, why Norv Turner isn't a successful HC, or Cam Cameron, Charlie Weis.. Etc...

Most of those guys will probably learn that for their 2nd stint if they get one. BB is a prime example of that. He was a terrible HC in CLE because he was an X's and O's guy but when he got to NE he became a master of motivation.


Great post. Also which is why I think we need to go with a proven coach with head coaching experience. Woody is 0-3 with first time head coaches since he has been the owner. Time to go with something different. Bring in Shanny!
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Posted 31 December 2008 - 06:15 PM

The more I think about it.. if we don't get Frazier.. I think if Ryan impresses in his interview, I'd like him. I think he would not only bring his D but would attract FA's. (Suggs?) Also to come join up on the D.

I'd be interested to see what type of staff he would put together, and if he would be calling D plays or not.
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Posted 31 December 2008 - 06:56 PM

QUOTE (Jetsman05 @ Dec 31 2008, 06:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The more I think about it.. if we don't get Frazier.. I think if Ryan impresses in his interview, I'd like him. I think he would not only bring his D but would attract FA's. (Suggs?) Also to come join up on the D.

I'd be interested to see what type of staff he would put together, and if he would be calling D plays or not.


His D from what I hear is ridiculously complex and he is known to get conservative when trying to hold a lead and call too many 3 man rushes. I really don't want the guy but If we get him I hope he can at least bring Suggs over after we make some serious cuts.



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Posted 31 December 2008 - 06:59 PM

If he gets the job I would support him, because he would of had a good interview and the Jets would of liked where he is going. He would bring his brother to be the DC. They would run Rex Ryan's defense, all we would need is a good OC and we would be fine. I would hope he bring in Terrell Suggs. Or maybe a defensive mind would know how to get the very best out of Gholston.
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Posted 31 December 2008 - 07:07 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Dec 31 2008, 06:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If he gets the job I would support him, because he would of had a good interview and the Jets would of liked where he is going. He would bring his brother to be the DC. They would run Rex Ryan's defense, all we would need is a good OC and we would be fine. I would hope he bring in Terrell Suggs. Or maybe a defensive mind would know how to get the very best out of Gholston.


I would hope he has a good interview I just don't want him to get the job off the performance of his Raven's Defense alone. I'm very leary of the man after his own team rejected him for a HC position and reached out to another teams CB coach instead. I doesn't really inspire much confidence as he also interviewed for ATL and didn't get that job either. But Obviously if we do hire him I will support him.



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Posted 31 December 2008 - 07:50 PM

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Rex Ryan to Interview With Jets
Posted on December 31st, 2008 by Bassett Jane McManus notes on her blog on lohud.com that the Jets have another candidate on their list.

The Jets asked for and got permission to talk to Baltimore defensive coordinator Rex Ryan, although no meeting has been scheduled since his team is still in the playoffs. Ryan, 46, was with the Ravens for their 2000 Super Bowl victory, and is in his ninth year with the team. He is in the first of a two-year deal with the Ravens.


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Posted 31 December 2008 - 09:31 PM

If we bring in both Ryans... Asamougha and Suggs? :P
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Posted 01 January 2009 - 12:45 AM

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The Jets have asked permission to interview Ravens assistant head coach/defense Rex Ryan for their head-coaching vacancy.
Ryan is as qualified to be a head coach as any NFL coordinator, but his weight and rugged look have always worked against him. Being Buddy's son also probably hasn't helped. Still, Ryan would be a fine choice for any team. The Jets will interview him when/if Baltimore is eliminated from the playoffs.Source: Newark Star-Ledger Related: Jets, Rams


His weight and ruggid look? Thats what i want. Being Buddys son wont help him? hello who the f*** wrote this banana019.gif .Rex as a head coach and Bob Ryan as a DC? Sounds good to me.
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Posted 01 January 2009 - 06:57 AM

Unfortunately, the reputation his father had as a Head Coach may be holding him back (great def. coordinator but a so-so HC). People may see him as coordinator material but not HC material.You know what they say the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
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