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Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:37 PM) Corey Ivy CB
36 Jim Leonhard SS/PR
43 Haruki Nakamura FS
25 Evan Oglesby CB
20 Ed Reed FS
22 Samari Rolle CB
39 Daren Stone FS
41 Frank Walker CB
31 Fabian Washington in 2008
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (20 August 2014 - 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The JETS are #6 in the Forbes List for most franchise value
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The Buffalo Jills are #31 and the Miami Dolphags are #16 respectively
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 07:00 PM) The JETS are worth $1.8 billion
jet-man Icon : (20 August 2014 - 10:03 PM) that's less than the clippers
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:07 PM) I'm very excited with the amount of preseason touchdowns the Jets have
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:21 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:22 PM) Calvin Pryor and Darrin Walls will start tomorrow
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:52 PM) The SIMPSONS MARATHON has been on for almost 12 hours...
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:57 PM) Sanchez looks so much more confident and better in Chip's offense than he did with us
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:50 PM) EVERY SIMPSONS EVER!!!!!
2JBallar01 Icon : (Today, 07:10 AM) Sanchez is looking good for the eagles. Crazy how a good offense and the right system can make you look so much better. When you're put into a situatuon to succeed, magic happens. Happy for Sanchez, i think he needed a change just as much as the Jets did.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 08:02 AM) Preseason doesn't matter at all
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 11:10 AM) anyone have a stream for the preseaosn agme by chance?
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 09:06 PM) Don't read to much into Mark in the preseason. He usually looked good in the preseason even in a Jets uniform.. Big difference from regular season where the 1st string defense is playing 100%.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 09:09 PM) A lot of 1st stringers are just getting reps in and trying not to get injured. Its only the backups trying to keep or get a job playing hard every down. If preseason qb play meant anything then Matt Simms would be the starting qb of the Jets.
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Mock Season.. Kipers Up

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Posted 22 January 2009 - 12:39 PM

Pick Team Player Position College
1 Detroit Matthew Stafford QB Georgia
2 St. Louis Andre Smith OT Alabama
3 Kansas City Mark Sanchez QB USC
4 Seattle Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech
5 Cleveland Aaron Curry LB Wake Forest
6 Cincinnati Jason Smith OT Baylor
7 Oakland Jeremy Maclin WR Missouri
8 Jacksonville Eugene Monroe OT Virginia
9 Green Bay Malcolm Jenkins CB Ohio St.
10 San Francisco Aaron Maybin DE/OLB Penn St.
11 Buffalo Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma St.
12 Denver B.J. Raji DT Boston College
13 Washington Brian Orakpo DE Texas
14 New Orleans Vontae Davis CB Illinois
15 Houston Everette Brown DE Florida St.
16 San Diego Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia
17 New York Jets Percy Harvin WR Florida
18 Chicago Tyson Jackson DE LSU
19 Tampa Bay Josh Freeman QB Kansas St.
20 Detroit (from Dallas) Rey Maualuga LB USC
21 Philadelphia Chris "Beanie" Wells RB Ohio St.
22 Minnesota Hakeem Nicks WR North Carolina
23 New England Brian Cushing LB USC
24 Atlanta Larry English DE/OLB No. Illinois
25 Miami Darrius Heyward-Bey WR Mryland
26 Baltimore D.J. Moore CB Vanderbilt
27 Indianapolis Peria Jerry DT Mississippi
28 Philadelphia (from Carolina) Michael Oher OT Mississippi
29 New York Giants James Laurinaitis LB Ohio St.
30 Tennessee Michael Johnson DE Georgia Tech
31 Arizona LeSean McCoy RB Pittsburgh
32 Pittsburgh Alex Mack C California
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Posted 22 January 2009 - 01:31 PM

I'm a huge UF fan, and I love Percy. That being said, I rather see us take Hayward-Bey. That dude is special. He will have a very nice combine.
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Posted 22 January 2009 - 01:55 PM

QUOTE (Jetsman05 @ Jan 22 2009, 11:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm a huge UF fan, and I love Percy. That being said, I rather see us take Hayward-Bey. That dude is special. He will have a very nice combine.



I cant believe you said that lol..

I like Percy too. Very special and someone who can do it all and do it well. BUT, i feel like we already have a player like him in brad Smith. Dont get me wrong, im not saying Brad is as good as Harvin because he isnt. Brad has nothin on Percy. Just saying Jets already have a player like him. And I feel the Jets need a pure WR you know what i mean?
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Posted 22 January 2009 - 02:23 PM

No way in hell. With Mauluga and Chris Wells still available, I'd expect to get either one of them.
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Posted 22 January 2009 - 03:39 PM

I can't believe the Steelers might take Alex Mack


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Posted 22 January 2009 - 04:02 PM

How accurate was Kiper last year? No one ever looks at that. Kiper pisses me off.

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Posted 22 January 2009 - 04:13 PM

QUOTE (cmart=the best @ Jan 22 2009, 04:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How accurate was Kiper last year? No one ever looks at that. Kiper pisses me off.


To be honest with you I hate Kiper. I'm more of a Mike Mayock kinda guy, but I always enjoy laughing at how wrong he usually is.
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Posted 22 January 2009 - 04:16 PM

QUOTE (cmart=the best @ Jan 22 2009, 05:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How accurate was Kiper last year? No one ever looks at that. Kiper pisses me off.


1 Miami Dolphins - Chris Long, DE Virginia WRONG
2 St. Louis Rams - Glenn Dorsey, DT LSU WRONG
3 Atlanta Falcons - Matt Ryan, QB Boston College RIGHT
4 Oakland Raiders - Darren McFadden, RB Arkansas RIGHT
5 Kansas City Chiefs - Jake Long, OT Michigan WRONG
6 New York Jets - Vernon Gholston, DE Ohio St. RIGHT
7 New England Patriots (from SF) - Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB Tennessee St. WRONG
8 Baltimore Ravens - Sedrick Ellis, DT USC WRONG
9 Cincinnati Bengals - Phillip Merling, DE Clemson WRONG
10 New Orleans Saints - Leodis McKelvin, CB Troy WRONG
11 Buffalo Bills - Malcolm Kelly, WR Oklahoma WRONG
12 Denver Broncos - Ryan Clady, OT Boise St. RIGHT
13 Carolina Panthers - Derrick Harvey, DE Florida WRONG
14 Chicago Bears - Chris Williams, OT Vanderbilt RIGHT
15 Detroit Lions - Rashard Mendenhall, RB Illinois WRONG
16 Arizona Cardinals - Keith Rivers, LB USC WRONG
17 Minnesota Vikings - Calais Campbell, DE Miami WRONG
18 Houston Texans - Jonathan Stewart, RB Oregon WRONG
19 Philadelphia Eagles - Jeff Otah, OT Pittsburgh WRONG
20 Tampa Bay Buccaneers - DeSean Jackson, WR California WRONG
21 Washington Redskins - Aqib Talib, CB Kansas WRONG
22 Dallas Cowboys (from CLE) - Felix Jones, RB Arkansas RIGHT
23 Pittsburgh Steelers - Branden Albert, OG Virginia WRONG
24 Tennessee Titans - Jerod Mayo, LB Tennessee WRONG
25 Seattle Seahawks - Devin Thomas, WR Michigan State WRONG
26 Jacksonville Jaguars - Kentwan Balmer, DT North Carolina WRONG
27 San Diego Chargers - Justin King, CB Penn State WRONG
28 Dallas Cowboys - Brandon Flowers, CB Virginia Tech WRONG
29 San Francisco 49ers (from IND) - Gosder Cherilus, OT Boston College WRONG
30 Green Bay Packers - Mike Jenkins, CB South Florida WRONG
31 New England Patriots Forfeited pick
32 New York Giants - Kenny Phillips, S Miami RIGHT

last year, Kiper went 7 for 31 which is about 23%. If I did my job at that level, I'd be taken out back and put to pasture.
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Posted 22 January 2009 - 04:21 PM

He may not be very accurate, but really, how many are? I'm sure he does better than the average bum off the streets. You can never be sure about someone else's decision.

I would love to see Heyward-Bey fall to the Dolphins at 25.
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Posted 22 January 2009 - 04:24 PM

QUOTE (C l u t c H 385 @ Jan 22 2009, 05:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He may not be very accurate, but really, how many are? I'm sure he does better than the average bum off the streets. You can never be sure about someone else's decision.

I would love to see Heyward-Bey fall to the Dolphins at 25.


Actually I think he's below average.
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Posted 22 January 2009 - 04:56 PM

QUOTE (CJBallar01 @ Jan 22 2009, 01:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I cant believe you said that lol..

I like Percy too. Very special and someone who can do it all and do it well. BUT, i feel like we already have a player like him in brad Smith. Dont get me wrong, im not saying Brad is as good as Harvin because he isnt. Brad has nothin on Percy. Just saying Jets already have a player like him. And I feel the Jets need a pure WR you know what i mean?



Percy Harvin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brad Smith.

I don't see the comparison, at all.
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Posted 22 January 2009 - 05:13 PM

QUOTE (Tater Salad @ Jan 22 2009, 05:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Percy Harvin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brad Smith.

I don't see the comparison, at all.


Agreed, if anything somewhat compare Stuckey (receiving wise) to Percy. But Brad Smith... no.
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Posted 22 January 2009 - 05:26 PM

I want Hakeem Nicks plain and simple
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Posted 22 January 2009 - 05:27 PM

QUOTE (Clemens11 @ Jan 22 2009, 06:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I want Hakeem Nicks plain and simple


I like Nicks as well but I think he is MUCH more valuable as a second round pick. I think taking him in the second round somewhere would be an absolute steal. First round... eh.. I like Bey much more.
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Posted 22 January 2009 - 05:50 PM

QUOTE (SecondHandJets @ Jan 22 2009, 04:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
1 Miami Dolphins - Chris Long, DE Virginia WRONG
2 St. Louis Rams - Glenn Dorsey, DT LSU WRONG
3 Atlanta Falcons - Matt Ryan, QB Boston College RIGHT
4 Oakland Raiders - Darren McFadden, RB Arkansas RIGHT
5 Kansas City Chiefs - Jake Long, OT Michigan WRONG
6 New York Jets - Vernon Gholston, DE Ohio St. RIGHT
7 New England Patriots (from SF) - Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB Tennessee St. WRONG
8 Baltimore Ravens - Sedrick Ellis, DT USC WRONG
9 Cincinnati Bengals - Phillip Merling, DE Clemson WRONG
10 New Orleans Saints - Leodis McKelvin, CB Troy WRONG
11 Buffalo Bills - Malcolm Kelly, WR Oklahoma WRONG
12 Denver Broncos - Ryan Clady, OT Boise St. RIGHT
13 Carolina Panthers - Derrick Harvey, DE Florida WRONG
14 Chicago Bears - Chris Williams, OT Vanderbilt RIGHT
15 Detroit Lions - Rashard Mendenhall, RB Illinois WRONG
16 Arizona Cardinals - Keith Rivers, LB USC WRONG
17 Minnesota Vikings - Calais Campbell, DE Miami WRONG
18 Houston Texans - Jonathan Stewart, RB Oregon WRONG
19 Philadelphia Eagles - Jeff Otah, OT Pittsburgh WRONG
20 Tampa Bay Buccaneers - DeSean Jackson, WR California WRONG
21 Washington Redskins - Aqib Talib, CB Kansas WRONG
22 Dallas Cowboys (from CLE) - Felix Jones, RB Arkansas RIGHT
23 Pittsburgh Steelers - Branden Albert, OG Virginia WRONG
24 Tennessee Titans - Jerod Mayo, LB Tennessee WRONG
25 Seattle Seahawks - Devin Thomas, WR Michigan State WRONG
26 Jacksonville Jaguars - Kentwan Balmer, DT North Carolina WRONG
27 San Diego Chargers - Justin King, CB Penn State WRONG
28 Dallas Cowboys - Brandon Flowers, CB Virginia Tech WRONG
29 San Francisco 49ers (from IND) - Gosder Cherilus, OT Boston College WRONG
30 Green Bay Packers - Mike Jenkins, CB South Florida WRONG
31 New England Patriots Forfeited pick
32 New York Giants - Kenny Phillips, S Miami RIGHT

last year, Kiper went 7 for 31 which is about 23%. If I did my job at that level, I'd be taken out back and put to pasture.


to the woodshed!
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Posted 22 January 2009 - 06:08 PM

QUOTE (eliteblazers @ Jan 22 2009, 05:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
no way Melaluga falls to the 20s if he was there at 17 u know how ridiculous he would look next to harris???? i dont think either usc linebacker falls to the 20s... I agree on harvin not that he isnt good I want a big stud Wr if we're taking 1 in the 1st round. So he has 5 Wr's going in round 1 and Kenny Britt isn't one of them?? Not saying Britt is a 1st round lock of a pick but i think he is def. in the best 5 wr's in this class... Kenny Britt over hakeem nicks all day!!!

PS. I'd give S-dubbs left arm for Mathew Stafford! oh and our whole draft, yeh i said it.. all our picks for Stafford and I wouldn't be upset at all. He is a bigger stronger Cutler and it sucks for him that he is going to Motown.


Hell I'd personally donate my left arm to Stafford. Kid is a f*ckin beast, hell they wouldn't even have to cut it. I'd sever it myself and put it in a pretty box with a giant f*ckin bow on it.. from: the Dubbs!
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Posted 22 January 2009 - 08:42 PM

QUOTE (Tater Salad @ Jan 22 2009, 04:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Percy Harvin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brad Smith.

I don't see the comparison, at all.



well i think harvin is faster and can bust a play alot beter. the thing smith is good at is a wildcat system and special teams



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Posted 23 January 2009 - 12:04 PM

QUOTE (SecondHandJets @ Jan 22 2009, 04:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
1 Miami Dolphins - Chris Long, DE Virginia WRONG
2 St. Louis Rams - Glenn Dorsey, DT LSU WRONG
3 Atlanta Falcons - Matt Ryan, QB Boston College RIGHT
4 Oakland Raiders - Darren McFadden, RB Arkansas RIGHT
5 Kansas City Chiefs - Jake Long, OT Michigan WRONG
6 New York Jets - Vernon Gholston, DE Ohio St. RIGHT
7 New England Patriots (from SF) - Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB Tennessee St. WRONG
8 Baltimore Ravens - Sedrick Ellis, DT USC WRONG
9 Cincinnati Bengals - Phillip Merling, DE Clemson WRONG
10 New Orleans Saints - Leodis McKelvin, CB Troy WRONG
11 Buffalo Bills - Malcolm Kelly, WR Oklahoma WRONG
12 Denver Broncos - Ryan Clady, OT Boise St. RIGHT
13 Carolina Panthers - Derrick Harvey, DE Florida WRONG
14 Chicago Bears - Chris Williams, OT Vanderbilt RIGHT
15 Detroit Lions - Rashard Mendenhall, RB Illinois WRONG
16 Arizona Cardinals - Keith Rivers, LB USC WRONG
17 Minnesota Vikings - Calais Campbell, DE Miami WRONG
18 Houston Texans - Jonathan Stewart, RB Oregon WRONG
19 Philadelphia Eagles - Jeff Otah, OT Pittsburgh WRONG
20 Tampa Bay Buccaneers - DeSean Jackson, WR California WRONG
21 Washington Redskins - Aqib Talib, CB Kansas WRONG
22 Dallas Cowboys (from CLE) - Felix Jones, RB Arkansas RIGHT
23 Pittsburgh Steelers - Branden Albert, OG Virginia WRONG
24 Tennessee Titans - Jerod Mayo, LB Tennessee WRONG
25 Seattle Seahawks - Devin Thomas, WR Michigan State WRONG
26 Jacksonville Jaguars - Kentwan Balmer, DT North Carolina WRONG
27 San Diego Chargers - Justin King, CB Penn State WRONG
28 Dallas Cowboys - Brandon Flowers, CB Virginia Tech WRONG
29 San Francisco 49ers (from IND) - Gosder Cherilus, OT Boston College WRONG
30 Green Bay Packers - Mike Jenkins, CB South Florida WRONG
31 New England Patriots Forfeited pick
32 New York Giants - Kenny Phillips, S Miami RIGHT

last year, Kiper went 7 for 31 which is about 23%. If I did my job at that level, I'd be taken out back and put to pasture.

Wow now I have a REASON to hate him. He pisses me off because I think he tries so hard to put surprise picks in his mock that he just becomes really inaccurate. I definitely think that average people on mock draft forums to a MUCH better job than Kiper. I usually go onto footballsfuture.com and most of the people on there are usually 75% right so screw Kiper.

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Posted 23 January 2009 - 12:55 PM

The only draft analyst I follow is Shawn Zobel grimace-32.png
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Posted 23 January 2009 - 12:57 PM

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The only draft analyst I follow is Shawn Zobel grimace-32.png


Haha...strangely enough his mock was 110% accurate last year.
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