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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 29 August 2005 - 03:19 PM

i just drafed a team in a league witch the winner gets 200bucks.and had my draft yesterday.

2QBs,2RBs,3WRs,1rb/wr,1TE.2Ks.1D.3Dplayers.

QB,Collins,Brooks,Ramsey

RB.Holmes,Davis-HOU,Taylor-JAX.

WR,TO,Ward,Smith-CAR.Chambers

TE,Heap,Graham

K.Elam.Carney,Mare

D.NYJ,vikes

Dplayers,Reed-bal,Harrison-NE,Brooks-TB,Vilma.

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Posted 29 August 2005 - 03:39 PM

i also had a nother draft 4 days ago.and its like the otherone.200 to the winner.

2QBs,2rbs,3WRs,1TE,1K,D,3Dplayers.

QBs.culpepper,Collins,boller.BEN R.

RB,Mcalister,westbrook,taylor.

WR,Johnson,Driver,Stokley,Porter

TE.Heap,smith

K,Vanderjagt,Nuget

D.JETS,CHI

Dplayers.Lewis-BAL,Archaleta-STL,Arrington-WASH.

and both these leagues have COMPS and RECs.
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Posted 29 August 2005 - 03:58 PM

i hate a 2 QB league. there is only about 10-15 of them worth a dam and if u have 10 teams it leaves 5 teams with crap and no back-ups for off weeks.
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Posted 30 August 2005 - 07:44 AM

QUOTE (MIKEGANGGREENFAN2 @ Aug 29 2005, 03:54 PM)
i just drafed a team in a league witch the winner gets 200bucks.and had my draft yesterday.

2QBs,2RBs,3WRs,1rb/wr,1TE.2Ks.1D.3Dplayers.

QB,Collins,Brooks,Ramsey

RB.Holmes,Davis-HOU,Taylor-JAX.

WR,TO,Ward,Smith-CAR.Chambers

TE,Heap,Graham

K.Elam.Carney,Mare

D.NYJ,vikes

Dplayers,Reed-bal,Harrison-NE,Brooks-TB,Vilma.

thanks guys.


this just in i just traded chambers for jovan walker.
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Posted 30 August 2005 - 08:45 AM

what idiot took a straight up trade for chambers and gave up walker? u ripped him bad on that trade
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Posted 30 August 2005 - 09:55 AM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Aug 30 2005, 09:20 AM)
what idiot took a straight up trade for chambers and gave up walker? u ripped him bad on that trade

i know hysterical.gif
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QUOTE (MIKEGANGGREENFAN2 @ Aug 29 2005, 02:54 PM)
i just drafed a team in a league witch the winner gets 200bucks.and had my draft yesterday.

2QBs,2RBs,3WRs,1rb/wr,1TE.2Ks.1D.3Dplayers.

QB,Collins,Brooks,Ramsey

RB.Holmes,Davis-HOU,Taylor-JAX.

WR,TO,Ward,Smith-CAR.Chambers

TE,Heap,Graham

K.Elam.Carney,Mare

D.NYJ,vikes

Dplayers,Reed-bal,Harrison-NE,Brooks-TB,Vilma.

thanks guys.


I don't like Brooks or Ramsey, both are iffy players who aren't reliable starters. If you're league doesn't negate points for turnovers, Collins is a solid choice though. If it does, he is a back up at best.

All three of your RBs have serious injury concerns, with Davis and Holmes missing numerous games over the last couple years and Taylor coming off fairly extensive surgery. You should try and trade to get a solid guy who you can count on to start 16 games, just in case.

TO, Ward, Walker, and Smith (Steve or Jimmy, I like both) is a great group of receivers that is almost sure to land two or more in the top ten at the end of the season (I had Owens, Walker, and Stever Smith rated in the top ten on my Cheat Sheet). I would look to move one of these guys and a RB to get a more solid option there.

I like your defensive choices, both team and single. Heap is a good TE if he stays healthy, so that is another all-or-nothing choice. Other than Elam I don't like your kickers. Carney and Mare have been declining over the last couple seasons, but I suppose one of the two should get back to form, probably Carney.

Overall I think your team is all right, but I don't like how many "upside" players you have. A lot of those guys are the type of player many owners stay away from because of the risk involved and if a few go down you could find yourself scrounging for starters on the FA market.


I like your other team more, although you have 3 second receivers (well, Stokley is a third) and I always prefer starters to #2s. Last year was just the second time in six seasons Stokley made it through more than half of the season, so don't expect him to be there for you every game.
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Posted 30 August 2005 - 12:00 PM

Had my draft yesterday. How's this look?

QB:
Byron Leftwitch (Jags)
Chad Pennington (Jets)

RB:
Steven Jackson (Rams)
Ladanian Tomlinson (Chargers)
Derrick Blaylock (Jets)

TE:
Antonio Gates (Chargers)
Ben Troupe (Titans)

WR:
Laverneous Coles (Jets)
Derrick Mason (Ravens)
Jerry Porter (Raiders)
Antwon Randle El (Steelers)

K:
Mike Nugent (Jets)

DST:
Giants
Chargers
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Posted 30 August 2005 - 01:22 PM

QUOTE (FlyHiJets @ Aug 30 2005, 10:35 AM)
Had my draft yesterday. How's this look?

QB:
Byron Leftwitch (Jags)
Chad Pennington (Jets)

RB:
Steven Jackson (Rams)
Ladanian Tomlinson (Chargers)
Derrick Blaylock (Jets)

TE:
Antonio Gates (Chargers)
Ben Troupe (Titans)

WR:
Laverneous Coles (Jets)
Derrick Mason (Ravens)
Jerry Porter (Raiders)
Antwon Randle El (Steelers)

K:
Mike Nugent (Jets)

DST:
Giants
Chargers



Honostly not too good.
I assume u have to start
1QB
2WR
2RB
1TE
1K
1Def

Which for u would be
Leftwhich or chad (pretty even so play the matchups. I’ll take chad against KC defense)
LT best back
Jackson not as good as people think. Not his fault it’s the rams offense and the fact theys till have faulk
Gates good pick
Coles good pick
Mason not god idea. Remember who is throwing to him
And both defenses suck. And kickers are all pretty much the same.
And u don’t have much depth. Ask for a do over. I give u a 5 out of 10. sorry man
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Posted 30 August 2005 - 01:26 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Aug 30 2005, 01:57 PM)
Honostly not too good.
I assume u have to start
1QB
2WR
2RB
1TE
1K
1Def

Which for u would be
Leftwhich or chad (pretty even so play the matchups. I’ll take chad against KC defense)
LT best back
Jackson not as good as people think. Not his fault it’s the rams offense and the fact theys till have faulk
Gates good pick
Coles good pick
Mason not god idea. Remember who is throwing to him
And both defenses suck. And kickers are all pretty much the same.
And u don’t have much depth. Ask for a do over. I give u a 5 out of 10. sorry man


Unfortunately, I was picking 8th in a 12 team draft, so all of the good QB's were already gone & after taking Tomlinson & Gates, the good D's were gone too, so I pretty much grabbed the better of what was left.

May use trades to improve weak areas.
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QUOTE (FlyHiJets @ Aug 30 2005, 11:35 AM)
Had my draft yesterday. How's this look?

QB:
Byron Leftwitch (Jags)
Chad Pennington (Jets)

RB:
Steven Jackson (Rams)
Ladanian Tomlinson (Chargers)
Derrick Blaylock (Jets)

TE:
Antonio Gates (Chargers)
Ben Troupe (Titans)

WR:
Laverneous Coles (Jets)
Derrick Mason (Ravens)
Jerry Porter (Raiders)
Antwon Randle El (Steelers)

K:
Mike Nugent (Jets)

DST:
Giants
Chargers


Ugh...not too much to be positive about. Tomlinson and Jackson are a good combo at RB, probably not the best combo you'll have in your league, but up there. Blaylock has very little upside as a better back (Jordan) never got to do much with the team. Leftwich should be pretty good, but both your QBs are guys I have never seen ranked in the top ten as fantasy QBs coming into the season. I have to imagine you either really jumped the gun in drafting one or both of them or you let 12ish guys go off the board before you picked a QB.

Really, let me sum my review up with a tip:

Despite your love for a team, it is never a good idea to have more than a couple guys from the same team on your roster, no matter how tempting it is. You have 5 Jets out of 14 roster spots. I assume you drafted some of those guys at least a round or more ahead of where they should have been drafted. Blaylock is a toss off pick, and as now your backup RB probably won't get you more than a point or two when you need him to fill in during bye weeks. There must have been a better choice when you drafted him, at least a guy who will likely play.


I'm not trying to be too hard, but your team is going to struggle a lot, especially that week the Jets are off. In my local draft, I only got Curtis Martin, but as long as I got a Jet I was happy. I let Coles, McCareins, Nugent, and the Def fall because they weren't the best option at the time. Those guys got taken by other owners, but at least I didn't pass on a better guy just to have another Jet on my team.

In the future, really try and make sure you aren't drafting someone too far ahead of what is reasonable. I don't know the specific spots you drafted, but I acn say for sure that you drafted a lot of guy out of spot.

Oh, also, 6 of the 7 owners who took a pass on TOmlinson are morons. No one except Manning (and in my opinon, not even him) should go off before LT. Maybe Jamal Lewis...but even that is pretty crazy.
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Posted 31 August 2005 - 08:55 AM

8th should have given u a QB or 12th. you still could have had a top 10 QB. if they were dumb enough to let LT fall to 8 u were smart for grabbing him but u should have taken a QB at 12th. i assumed u had a top 3 pick in order to get LT and though u should have used it on a QB
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Posted 01 September 2005 - 09:37 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Aug 31 2005, 09:30 AM)
8th should have given u a QB or 12th. you still could have had a top 10 QB. if they were dumb enough to let LT fall to 8 u were smart for grabbing him but u should have taken a QB at 12th. i assumed u had a top 3 pick in order to get LT and though u should have used it on a QB


Unfortunately, by the time I picked at # 8, the good QB's were gone, so I went with the best player available for my first & 2nd picks. The other owners left Tomlinson & Gates available so I grabbed them & figured I could still grab someone that would hopefully give decent numbers after.

I think that Leftwitch has the ability this year to put up better numbers so I grabbed him & by the time I got to receivers, Coles was the best out of what was left & I figured Porter should get some more numbers this year once he gets healthy with Moss on the other side.

There's something definitely left to be desired with the squad, but hopefully I'll get a decent trade or something.
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Posted 02 September 2005 - 02:27 PM

collins should have a great year but if i was the raiders i would have tried to trade for rodgers or cambell

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