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ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (23 September 2016 - 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 10:09 AM) BREAKING NEWS: Santana is a jinx during JETS games
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 11:40 AM) HUGE game today
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 11:40 AM) Santana PLEASE refrain from entering the BanterBox cause you are a JINX
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Peter King On - Cutler Trade

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Posted 31 March 2009 - 11:47 PM

Broncos, Cutler reach a stalemate; Denver now accepting trade offers


Apparently convinced that their rift with Jay Cutler is irreconcilable, the Broncos have decided to pursue a trade for their disgruntled quarterback before the April 25 draft.

In a stunning turn of events, Broncos owner Pat Bowlen released a statement at 9 p.m. ET Tuesday saying both he and coach Josh McDaniels had been unable to get Cutler to call them back over the last 10 days.

Bowlen said he spoke with Cutler's agent, Bus Cook, on Tuesday and came away convinced "that Jay no longer has any desire to play for the Denver Broncos."

Therefore, Bowlen said, "We will begin discussions with other teams in an effort to accommodate his request to be traded."

This development is in stark contrast to what the Broncos' stance was at the NFL meetings last week. McDaniels, who created a firestorm of discontent with Cutler when he attempted to secretly trade him in February and the trade failed, seemed certain last week week he would be able to mend fences with Cutler in a private meeting.

A source Tuesday night said McDaniels felt he was at the point of no return with Cutler and had no choice but to pursue a trade.

Among the teams certain to be interested are Tampa Bay, the New York Jets and Detroit, which holds the No. 1 pick in this year's draft. But the Lions may have been swayed to pick Georgia quarterback Matthew Stafford No. 1 overall after his impressive workout Tuesday on the Georgia campus.

Other teams are likely to be interested, including Cleveland, Minnesota, San Francisco and possibly Carolina. It's a virtual certainty that the Bucs and Jets, both without a bonafide No. 1 quarterback entering the draft, will bid aggressively for Cutler.

Cutler, 25, was the Broncos' first pick and 11th overall in the 2006 draft. Although his record as a starter is only 17-20, he is widely considered to be a player a team can install at quarterback and not worry about the position for the next decade.

He threw for 4,526 yards in 2008, but his relationship with the franchise soured after the man who drafted him, Coach Mike Shanahan, was fired by Bowlen in January and after an offensive coordinator he highly respected, Jeremy Bates, left for a similar position at USC when McDaniels chose not to keep him.

The day before free agency began in late February, McDaniels entertained two offers -- thought to be from Tampa Bay and Detroit -- in deals that would have netted the Broncos former McDaniels' pupil Matt Cassell from New England.

When Cutler discovered he had been shopped, he was furious because McDaniels had spoken to him as though he would be the long-term quarterback. Over the last month Cutler has simply been unable to get over it.
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Posted 31 March 2009 - 11:54 PM

Don't rule the Browns out by any stretch....


From the reports that I've been reading, they are one of the 6 teams "allegedly" in the running..And they have Quinn and Anderson. Question would be how much does Mcdaniels/bowlen want either of those 2 guys..

Can you imagine Eric mangini getting Cutler and winning a couple of Super bowls down the road eventually?
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Posted 31 March 2009 - 11:59 PM

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Don't rule the Browns out by any stretch....


From the reports that I've been reading, they are one of the 6 teams "allegedly" in the running..And they have Quinn and Anderson. Question would be how much does Mcdaniels/bowlen want either of those 2 guys..

Can you imagine Eric mangini getting Cutler and winning a couple of Super bowls down the road eventually?


Hey...if it is NOT us....then i truly hope it is the Browns.

That means whomever Denver doesn't take...is available in a trade for us.

I would gladly take Anderson or Quinn to add to the competition at QB on our team. And would come cheap.
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Posted 01 April 2009 - 03:02 AM

QUOTE (Leon#29 @ Apr 1 2009, 12:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't rule the Browns out by any stretch....


From the reports that I've been reading, they are one of the 6 teams "allegedly" in the running..And they have Quinn and Anderson. Question would be how much does Mcdaniels/bowlen want either of those 2 guys..

Can you imagine Eric mangini getting Cutler and winning a couple of Super bowls down the road eventually?



since when is Cutler the 2nd comming? hes a garunteed ticket to the SB NOW? he better hope he gets traded to the NFC if he wants to see the super bowl, cus as soon as Philip Rivers sees Cutler in the playoffs, Cutler will tuck tail and be done.
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Posted 01 April 2009 - 04:33 AM

QUOTE (Clemens11 @ Apr 1 2009, 04:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
since when is Cutler the 2nd comming? hes a garunteed ticket to the SB NOW? he better hope he gets traded to the NFC if he wants to see the super bowl, cus as soon as Philip Rivers sees Cutler in the playoffs, Cutler will tuck tail and be done.


You take everything so literally. Leon was pretty much saying that is our luck. We give up on Mangini, and don't get Cutler, and they combine to win some superbowls. Why do you give everyone crap man?
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Posted 01 April 2009 - 07:03 AM

QUOTE (Leon#29 @ Apr 1 2009, 12:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't rule the Browns out by any stretch....


From the reports that I've been reading, they are one of the 6 teams "allegedly" in the running..And they have Quinn and Anderson. Question would be how much does Mcdaniels/bowlen want either of those 2 guys..

Can you imagine Eric mangini getting Cutler and winning a couple of Super bowls down the road eventually?


If the Browns do get involved, McDaniels probably wants Quinn because of the Charlie Weis connection.

And on the second thing, that would just be Jets luck.
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Posted 01 April 2009 - 07:26 AM

What intelligent Jet fan does not want the Jets to go after Cutler? This opportunity will not present itself again for years. When was the last time a young franchise Qb was available? Sanchez or Freeman are no where near Cutler. Ratliff and Clemens are no where near Cutler. If you want to settle for five or more mediorce years, then by all means keep pulling for the Clemens/Ratliff era. If you want to be a relevant team then Cutler is our man. Pull out all the stops Tanny. Make it happen. Sorry but I've seen enough 7-9 to 9-7 Jet teams.
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Posted 01 April 2009 - 07:40 AM

Look, either way we're gonna go after him. I personally would not want to see him on my team, i think we would have to give up way to much for him and i think that anyone whose "feelings" are hurt cuz you were attempted to be traded is too much of an emotional liability. this is the nfl, deal with it. but if they accept our offer, then he's our qb. great. i hope his diabetes doesn't prevent him from a full career and he's able to get over himself, and next time when he says "i'm better than brett favre" maybe if he was, his team wouldn't be trading him.
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Posted 01 April 2009 - 08:36 AM

QUOTE (FroNTROw50yRdLyNe @ Apr 1 2009, 08:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I personally would not want to see him on my team, i think we would have to give up way to much for him and i think that anyone whose "feelings" are hurt cuz you were attempted to be traded is too much of an emotional liability.


I have come to the realization that most pro athletes have the "world revolves around me" attitude, so I'm not too surprised to see Cutler react this way, but when a player refuses to answer or return calls from the teams OWNER, then I think he is taking this too far. Regardless, I don't know what is happening behind the scenes, so I can't get on his case too much. Is he justified in the way he is acting? I don't know and at this point I don't think I really care.

I hope the Jets do pursue him because I think it would be silly not to explore all possibilities. But I have enough confidence in Clemens that I am not willing to give up too much for Cutler. I know "too much" means different things to different people, so having that discussion of what "too much" is a different argument. But if we do get Cutler, he won't be the main reason we win and he won't be the main reason we lose. As long as we have a capable, smart QB (which Cutler is and which I believe Clemens will be), I'm satisfied.
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