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Posted 03 September 2005 - 04:14 PM

Curtis Martin has had a career that is going to put him in the HOF on his first ballot. I mean he has never had elite speed, power, great agility, quickness, but still has managed to be one of the best ever. He is like a world wonder, the oldest runner to ever win the rushing title, 10 straight seasons of 1000+ yds, had the best season of his career at 31. He is truly a special player and would have been the best of all time if he was born with LT's ability
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Posted 03 September 2005 - 04:43 PM

He's all about effort and will, he's tough and won't stop. He has the heart of a lion and is a lion of it, off the field, he's an icon, a role model. The guy is amazing, he gives kids his phone number, he's just great.
But yeah, he just won't stop, and he is very tough, has played in like 96 straight games.

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Posted 03 September 2005 - 04:52 PM

Hard Work

Faith, Motivation

He's just an overall good guy

I remember the Interview he had last season about where he was held at gunpoint
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Posted 03 September 2005 - 04:55 PM

Yea man he's been through some shit but you can't stop a guy that has the power of God inside him. He's been training all summer long before training camp on the famous Santa Monica strairs with and parachute on his back for resistance. This guy is an animal. I think he won't get the rushing title this year but he will be top three. Look out Emmit Smith.
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Posted 03 September 2005 - 04:57 PM

I think Kevin Jones will win the rushing title this season
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Posted 03 September 2005 - 04:59 PM

QUOTE (GregWesley @ Sep 3 2005, 06:27 PM)
Hard Work

Faith, Motivation

He's just an overall good guy

I remember the Interview he had last season about where he was held at gunpoint



That was a touching interview. Wasn't it.
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Posted 03 September 2005 - 06:24 PM

That interview was something.

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Posted 03 September 2005 - 06:48 PM

wow we got a chiefs fan in here. hope your ready for sept. 11.

i think the main reason "my favorite" is so good is his vision. he see holes before they open up, and anticipates very well... whether that be were the hole is going to open up, where his teammates will be, or where the defenders will be. reminds me of emmitt smiths field vision.


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Posted 03 September 2005 - 06:50 PM

DUH! How good we forget his vision! Thanks for saying that Hurricane.

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Posted 03 September 2005 - 11:53 PM

just my opinion, but his ability is a gift from God.

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Posted 04 September 2005 - 12:46 AM

I think it is pretty clear that Curtis Martin isn't a back gifted in the way Tomlinson or Sanders were. Curtis breaks his back all year long to stay in top shape and ahead of the age curve and THAT is why he is a great back. Few in history have had the dedication to himself, his team, and his teammates that Curtis has.
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Posted 04 September 2005 - 01:05 AM

martin is all about longevity. that's why he has very high career rushing numbers. a lot of great back come and go (jamal anderson to name one out of hundreds) but they have to be able to stay in the game while taking the kind of beating that NFL Hbs take. like what has been said before, martin isnt the strongest, fastest, or most gifted guy on the field, but he is probably the most prepared, IMO. his offseason regiment is the key, and a lot of guys could benefit from working with him.

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Posted 04 September 2005 - 01:18 AM

QUOTE (ellisjersey92 @ Sep 3 2005, 08:40 PM)
martin is all about longevity. that's why he has very high career rushing numbers. a lot of great back come and go (jamal anderson to name one out of hundreds) but they have to be able to stay in the game while taking the kind of beating that NFL Hbs take. like what has been said before, martin isnt the strongest, fastest, or most gifted guy on the field, but he is probably the most prepared, IMO. his offseason regiment is the key, and a lot of guys could benefit from working with him.



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Posted 04 September 2005 - 01:20 AM

his great great great etc. ancestor was on the ship with ponce don leon when they went to search for the fountain of youth, but really im a huge c-mart fan and i just cant see him repeating his performance of last year

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Posted 04 September 2005 - 03:21 AM

curtis is quite a guy. parcels had alot to do with his attitude and professionalism when he brought him over from the pats. I KNEW BACK THEN what kind a player
he would be. he will be like rocky marciano who has been over shadowed by
mohammad ali . most of you guys don't know this guy . and ALI has to be considered to be the best boxer in the same century not doubt but the two champs were seperated by a different era in time. and Ali endured Persecution from the powers that be of his day.this is not about color so don't go there. its about athletes that share greatness in time. and can never be compared to others only to be appreciated as a piece of art. a masterpiece in his own right.
thats how i would describe curtis martin a skillful artist in his craft.

here is the link from the past some of you will remember.


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In 1969, Murry Woroner, a Miami promoter, approached Rocky and Muhammad Ali with a proposition. He wanted to film a fight between them, using a computer to decide the final outcome.
Ali had been stripped of his title and banned from boxing when he refused to be drafted into the army in 1967. Marciano was 46 years old and sixty pounds over his fighting weight. Each man had his motivations for agreeing to the deal. Ali needed the money. Rocky had money, but he deeply missed his glory days in the ring.

Before he could climb into a ring again, even for a simulated fight, Rocky had to get into some semblance of what he had been. He began running again, working out in the gym, eating right; in truth, he trained as hard or harder than any fighter preparing for a real fight. The result was a loss of almost fifty pounds. To cover his balding head, he was fitted with a wig.

In "Marciano, Biography of a First Son", Everett Skehan said, "When Rocky went to the dingy gym on the North Side of Miami Beach he was thinking tough, expecting things to go smoothly but prepared for anything. He had been briefed, knew that the punches were to be pulled, and that it would not be a real fight. But Rocky wouldn't go into the ring that way. Even at forty-six, he had to feel that if something went wrong, if suddenly the punches became real, he would be ready to win."

Ali didn't train seriously for the filming, and actually looked less in shape than the much older Marciano.
The filming took place in a small gym on the North Side of Miami Beach. Only about 20 people were allowed inside the gym during the filming, which was kept as secret as possible. Behind the fighters was a black backdrop and no crowd of cheering spectators.

Though punches to the head were to be pulled, both men agreed body shots were not a problem. They filmed one minute rounds. Angelo Dundee was on hand as Ali's trainer, but Rocky had to use Mel Ziegler to play the role of Charlie Goldman, his real trainer. Charlie had passed away the year before. Ferdie Pacheco was the ring doctor.

Seventy one-minute segments were filmed, then spliced into three minute rounds, including seven possible endings. All the information about the two men, their fights and results, was fed into the computer. Supposedly, the computer would decide the winner completely on the basis of the data concerning the two men and their boxing careers. Ali would tell different versions of how the outcome was decided; he would say he choose the ending, he would say it was a biased decision made by a computer in Mississippi, etc.

During the filming, Rocky and Ali became friends, spending hours in conversation. Ali would later write that he became closer to Rocky than any other white fighter he ever knew.
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Said Dundee of the affair: "Muhammad acquired a lot of respect for Rocky. He said Rocky was a lot harder to hit with a jab than he looked."
Stories came out of the sessions. Several claimed Rocky really hurt Ali with body shots, so that Muhammad climbed out of the ring and demanded extra money to continue. He was payed additional money. (Woroner himself said Ali took such a battering that he refused to continue until he was guaranteed an additional two thousand dollars.) I've talked to the son of one observer who says Rocky doubled Ali up with a body shot after Ali kept jabbing the wig off Rocky's head. Dundee admitted to the wig episode, but never told of the hard body shot that it led to. Ferdie Pacheco, however, the ring doctor in the film, claims Ali was dropped by a real body shot. The undeniable fact is, Rocky entered the ring ready to make a real fight of it if need be. Even Dundee said he had to be calmed down after the wig incident.
Here's the wig story as I've heard it from two sources:
Ali was dancing around jabbing and threw a high jab which just clipped Rocky's wig and knocked it off his head. The filming was stopped while the wig was refitted, amid bemused smiles from several of the observers. Marciano was embarrassed and angry.
He said, "He did that on purpose to make me look stupid. He doesn't have any respect for me at all."
Rocky was assured it was an accident and the filming resumed. However, Ali again jabbed high and sent the wig flying. Rocky was really mad this time, and snarled, "You better not do that again!"
They began once more and immediatly Ali flicked the wig off Rocky's head. Without hesitation, Marciano dug a vicious body shot into Ali's mid-section, doubling him over. Pacheco said Muhammad actually dropped to the floor and was completely helpless. Quickly Rocky was seperated from Ali and Dundee related how they had to take a break until Rocky's temper cooled off. Marciano offered to turn it into a real fight then and there if Ali was game. Only when Ali appologized did the Rock get over his anger. Observers at the filming have said Ali's attitude was different from that point on, as it was obvious Marciano had come to fight if need be rather than be disrespected.

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The result was kept secret from everyone, even Ali and Rocky. The promoter had to keep it secret to make his money when it would be shown in theatres. Five weeks after the filming, Rocky would die in the plane crash, but the result was not unlike what he would have expected. Dundee said he thought the result was the accurate result as chosen by the computer, "It was done strictly by the computer. Nobody set the thing up."
On January 20th, 1970, the fight for the "All-time Heavyweight Championship" played in over six hundred locations around the country.
So how did it end?
In the 13th round, Rocky catches up with Ali and knocks him out, just as he had Walcott all those years before.
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Much of the information about the computer fight I took from the excellent book, "Rocky Marciano..Biography of a First Son" by Everett M. Skehan, published in 1977.
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Posted 04 September 2005 - 11:59 AM

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Posted 04 September 2005 - 01:16 PM

I think what makes Curtis special is his durability and his consistency. He's played a long time yet held up very well in a league where even most good backs fade badly after 5 or 6 years.

It's the consistency thing that will get him into the Hall of Fame, though, while it keeps him from getting much national attention in media circles. Curtis seldom has an espn highlight run (I think he actually had the fewest 20 yard plus runs of any regular starter last year) but he hardly ever loses yardage and always seems to get 4-7 yards carry after carry after carry and that's quite rare in the NFL.
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Posted 04 September 2005 - 03:44 PM

QUOTE (nightowl @ Sep 4 2005, 12:51 PM)
I think what makes Curtis special is his durability and his consistency. He's played a long time yet held up very well in a league where even most good backs fade badly after 5 or 6 years.

It's the consistency thing that will get him into the Hall of Fame, though, while it keeps him from getting much national attention in media circles. Curtis seldom has an espn highlight run (I think he actually had the fewest 20 yard plus runs of any regular starter last year) but he hardly ever loses yardage and always seems to get 4-7 yards carry after carry after carry and that's quite rare in the NFL.


I don't know what you are considering to be a "regular starter" (somewhat subjective). I think Holmes only had one or two in his eightish starts and I know Bettis didn't get many.

Two years ago, when Holmes actually played most of the time, he only had ONE run over twenty yards. His Oline blows open such huge holes that anyone should get three yards on almost any carry and he never makes a big run. Most overrated back in the league. Any of the other top RBs in the league put behind that KC line would put up even better numbers. I can't imagine what Tomlinson or Lewis would do in that system.

Oh, so anyway, Martin is supposedly working on his explosiveness and such things and feels he can start hitting a better stride after twenty yards than he used to. So if Martin is right like he was last year (predicted 1500+ yards), he will get a lot more long runs.
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Posted 04 September 2005 - 03:54 PM

The thing I like about Curtis is winning is all he cares about, thats why he doesn't get the ESPN recegnition he deserves, whats a better story, an angry-overpaied RB who couldn't care less about the playoffs, but more about a award, or a quite, go-out-there-and-win guy who cares for the team. Shaun Alexander was 1 yard short f the rushing tital, and I saw about 5 times as many thing about him on TV the next day then Curtis, even if he won, it woulda been the same. And then I turn on the TV and they talk about Jamal Lewis, who has been outt of action for 6 months making a huge 2,000yard season, but Curtis is too old to do good??!!

But thats why I love him, he doesn't care about that, and maybe he does, I don't know what he does in his personall time, idk if he a great man or a jerk, but I say hes a great man, because from what I've seen of him on TV and what I know, hes the kindest pro-athlete I've ever seen

I saw on TV that in his first year as a Jet, a fan sent him a B-day part invite, and he went to the party, I wonder how many people would do that?


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