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ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
santana Icon : (24 April 2015 - 11:32 PM) TEH WIZ
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:57 AM) Teh Suarez
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:00 AM) Until next time fellas!
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:19 PM) Helloooooooooo
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:19 PM) Bueller
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:33 PM) Manish says the Jets should trade down and draft Andrus Peat round 1
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 04:39 PM) Even an idiot can say something that's right every now and then
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The Jets Winning Means They Can't Sign F. A's Next Year

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Posted 10 January 2010 - 06:14 PM

[b][u]Posted on Twitter Tonight[/u]


[url="http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter"]@Adam_Schefter [/url][/b]Bad news, Jets fans. By advancing to the final eight, the Jets will not be allowed to sign any free agents unless they lose one.

[b][url="http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter"]@Adam_Schefter[/url][/b]It's pretty simple. In the coming uncapped year, teams that reach Final 8 cannot sign free agents unless they lose one.
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Posted 10 January 2010 - 06:15 PM

Don't really need to sign anyone if we don't lose anyone. Draft some DL depth, and I'm not sure who on our team could possibly leave, but we just need to fill some depth.
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Posted 10 January 2010 - 06:16 PM

Who are our supposed free agents? Lets not be so quick to not let one go before we know whose on the list
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Posted 10 January 2010 - 06:17 PM

[quote name='S-Dubb' date='10 January 2010 - 06:14 PM' timestamp='1263165278' post='292346']
[b][u]Posted on Twitter Tonight[/u]


[url="http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter"]@Adam_Schefter [/url][/b]Bad news, Jets fans. By advancing to the final eight, the Jets will not be allowed to sign any free agents unless they lose one.

[b][url="http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter"]@Adam_Schefter[/url][/b]It's pretty simple. In the coming uncapped year, teams that reach Final 8 cannot sign free agents unless they lose one.
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For once he is wrong...it's the final 4

And IMO, and alot of football guys "in the know", this supposed uncapped year will be straightened out before free agency!

So if we lose in the 2nd round, we will only be able to sign 1 "big" Free Agent (Over 4.925 million), and any number of smaller (Under 3.275 million in Year 1, with 30% increase per year) free agents as we'd like.

If we win in the 2nd round, then we join the Final 4 rules, which would prevent us from making moves outside of other teams cuts or our own free agents, unless we lose Free Agents of our own, in which case we can replace them as long as they're making an equal or lesser salary to what they signed elsewhere for.

Essentially, the rule is designed to prevent a team from buying a championship.

With that said though, keep in mind the other rules changes

- Players go from needing 4 years of NFL Service Time for Free Agency to needing 6 years of NFL Service Time for Free Agency, meaning players like Leon Washington and Braylon Edwards whose contracts are up, but do not have the service time required, will become RFA's rather then UFA's.
- Teams get multiple franchise/transition tags to lock up their own players.

In other words, we're looking at one of the worst FA markets ever.

....And if there is a massive salary cap purge from other teams, we will not be precluded from sifting through that, as the Final 8 rule does not apply there.
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Posted 10 January 2010 - 06:50 PM

Vote no on an uncapped league
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Posted 10 January 2010 - 07:03 PM

This FA won't be worth signing guys anyways, all the top guys are RFA or will be franchised tagged. The draft is where we have to hit gold.
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Posted 11 January 2010 - 11:28 AM

"bad news jets fans"

REALLY? Bad news that your team is one of 8 remaining in the Playoffs. Is the glass always half fuggin empty in the media!? Dear loard STFU Schefter. I can see it now in the front page of the papers. "Jets finally win superbowl, lose ability to sign free agents"

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Posted 11 January 2010 - 12:30 PM

[quote name='CoachasaurusREX' date='11 January 2010 - 10:28 AM' timestamp='1263227294' post='292425']
"bad news jets fans"

REALLY? Bad news that your team is one of 8 remaining in the Playoffs. Is the glass always half fuggin empty in the media!? Dear loard STFU Schefter. I can see it now in the front page of the papers. "Jets finally win superbowl, lose ability to sign free agents"

Get this bull off this board now.
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Jets win Superbowl and free agents rush to New York with sign saying "will play for free 1st year" hence free agent.
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Posted 11 January 2010 - 01:04 PM

Here's the FA list for 2010

http://www.kffl.com/static/nfl/features/freeagents/fa.php?option=By+Team&y=2010
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Posted 11 January 2010 - 02:29 PM

So in theory, if David Clowney who is a UFA signs with another team, does that mean we can sign Miles Austin who is also UFA?
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Posted 11 January 2010 - 04:09 PM

That also says Jason Trusnik and Abram Elam are on the Jets. Is it accurate?
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Posted 11 January 2010 - 05:11 PM

its dated.. d. ware is also a UFA on that list
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Posted 11 January 2010 - 06:18 PM

I'd much rather win the Super Bowl than lose in the playoffs just so we can sign a free agent next year. I'm good with being able to see one super bowl win if we can go all the way this year. i mean comon, would any of you guys care that much about free agents next year if we won the super bowl?


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Posted 12 January 2010 - 11:05 AM

One player on the list that I'd rather not lose other than Leon is Brad Smith.


[quote name='Clemens11' date='11 January 2010 - 06:18 PM' timestamp='1263251939' post='292489']
I'd much rather win the Super Bowl than lose in the playoffs just so we can sign a free agent next year. I'm good with being able to see one super bowl win if we can go all the way this year. i mean comon, would any of you guys care that much about free agents next year if we won the super bowl?
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