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Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
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MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
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azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (20 August 2014 - 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The JETS are #6 in the Forbes List for most franchise value
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The Buffalo Jills are #31 and the Miami Dolphags are #16 respectively
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 07:00 PM) The JETS are worth $1.8 billion
jet-man Icon : (20 August 2014 - 10:03 PM) that's less than the clippers
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 01:07 PM) I'm very excited with the amount of preseason touchdowns the Jets have
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 03:21 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 07:22 PM) Calvin Pryor and Darrin Walls will start tomorrow
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 08:52 PM) The SIMPSONS MARATHON has been on for almost 12 hours...
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 08:57 PM) Sanchez looks so much more confident and better in Chip's offense than he did with us
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 09:50 PM) EVERY SIMPSONS EVER!!!!!
2JBallar01 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:10 AM) Sanchez is looking good for the eagles. Crazy how a good offense and the right system can make you look so much better. When you're put into a situatuon to succeed, magic happens. Happy for Sanchez, i think he needed a change just as much as the Jets did.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:02 AM) Preseason doesn't matter at all
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:10 AM) anyone have a stream for the preseaosn agme by chance?
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:06 PM) Don't read to much into Mark in the preseason. He usually looked good in the preseason even in a Jets uniform.. Big difference from regular season where the 1st string defense is playing 100%.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:09 PM) A lot of 1st stringers are just getting reps in and trying not to get injured. Its only the backups trying to keep or get a job playing hard every down. If preseason qb play meant anything then Matt Simms would be the starting qb of the Jets.
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Strong Possibility If Schotty Leaves Martz Is The Favorite

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Posted 12 January 2010 - 08:12 PM

[quote]I heard it on Total Access, they said if Shotty goes to Buffalo that Martz wants the OC job and could be a strong possibility to get it.[/quote]

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Posted 12 January 2010 - 08:18 PM

interesting. can we have our own greatest show on turf?
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 08:36 PM

No thanks, doesn't Mike Martz like to go downfield and not run the ball? How does that fit us?
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 08:42 PM

[quote name='Jetsfan0099' date='12 January 2010 - 08:36 PM' timestamp='1263346579' post='292603']
No thanks, doesn't Mike Martz like to go downfield and not run the ball? How does that fit us?
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Exactly. That's why he was let go from San Fran. Singletary wanted a ball control, run oriented offense, not Mike Martz.
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 08:44 PM

he did have faulk lead the league in rushing i believe.

anyway i'd rather keep schotty. i'm one of the few here that likes him.
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 08:45 PM

Martz is shit. Rex would never employ the guy.
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 08:55 PM

Faulk's rushing numbers in '99, 2000, and 2001. 1,381, 1,359, 1,382. He did average 5.5, then 5.4, and then 5.3. However, the Rams were not run-oriented. Faulk had 253 carries in '99 and 2000, and 260 carries in 01. Since T.J. has been in NY, he has had 310 carries, then 290, and now 331. Faulk never lead the league in rushing yards.

Fact is, we are a run, run, run, and then run again team. Not Mike Martz. Outside of possibly Leon, none of our running backs pose the same type of receiving threat Marshall Faulk was with Martz in St. Louis. It just wouldn't work. Martz has had complicated routes, and it would be silly to give Sanchez a whole new offense to learn.


If Schotty leaves, promote from within and keep the same offense! Essentially just switch the playcaller.

*Edit* The Bills are also trying to interview Russ Grimm. To jog your memory, he is an assistant for Arizona, who was interviewed before Ken Whisenhunt was hired. IMO, Grimm takes the Buffalo job.
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 10:37 PM

Faulk was just a machine that Martz used to run out the clock. He would have only a very few carries going into the fourth quarter, but if they were up he would come in and get his stats. When vermeil was there he made Faulk the focus, but once Martz took over it was all passing.

I hope for all heck we don't get Martz. Unless he for some reason commits to basing the game against the run. We don't have anythign close to his receivers. Besides, as much as I make fun of the Colts being arena league to my buddy who is a Colts fan, he'd kill me over Martz.
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Exterminate all rational thought, that is the conclusion I have come to
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 10:40 PM

[quote name='A1elbow' date='12 January 2010 - 07:37 PM' timestamp='1263353832' post='292629']
Faulk was just a machine that Martz used to run out the clock. He would have only a very few carries going into the fourth quarter, but if they were up he would come in and get his stats. When vermeil was there he made Faulk the focus, but once Martz took over it was all passing.

I hope for all heck we don't get Martz. Unless he for some reason commits to basing the game against the run. We don't have anythign close to his receivers. Besides, as much as I make fun of the Colts being arena league to my buddy who is a Colts fan, he'd kill me over Martz.
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i could be the best OC of all time with peyton at QB. just let him do everything and take all the credit
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 11:00 PM

if anythin we should hire Moochi or Gruden, but they wouldnt want to be OC's for us
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 11:40 PM

please no, i dont want Martz, he doesnt fit our personnel at all.
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Posted 13 January 2010 - 04:19 AM

I sure as hell don't want Mike Martz. He plays favorites with the QBs on the roster, he's a bully, and he'll screw up Sanchez's mechanics if Mark is not "his style" of a QB.


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Posted 13 January 2010 - 04:32 AM

This is the same O.C that forgot about Frank Gore in S.F. The same guy who neglects TE in the passing game. Martz wants a free ride with a great defense. Lets be honest guys, any O.C can survive here with our defense. Who'd have to be pretty bad.

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 06:44 AM

[quote name='Mr_Jet' date='13 January 2010 - 09:19 AM' timestamp='1263374340' post='292647']
I sure as hell don't want Mike Martz. He plays favorites with the QBs on the roster, he's a bully, and he'll screw up Sanchez's mechanics if Mark is not "his style" of a QB.


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No doubt there would be a clash of personalities between him and Rex at some point too as both guys are pretty confident in themselves - justifiably so in Ryan's case. Everywhere he has gone he has installed a pass-happy offense, which is a complete reserve-face of the ethos of this team and arguably would stunt Sanchez' growth.

[quote name='S-Dubb' date='13 January 2010 - 09:32 AM' timestamp='1263375164' post='292648']
This is the same O.C that forgot about Frank Gore in S.F. The same guy who neglects TE in the passing game. Martz wants a free ride with a great defense. Lets be honest guys, any O.C can survive here with our defense. Who'd have to be pretty bad.

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The RBs on the roster and Dustin Keller - even though he was very quiet at times this year - are the keys to this offense. Cotchery and Edwards are good receivers, but behind them there isn't anybody who has proven themselves reliable enough to be targetted in the passing game that Martz would want. Brad Smith has proven productive, but more so when running the ball out of the wildcat and on the odd reverse. Bruce and Holt were the two main guys in St. Louis with him, but the likes of Az Zahir Hakim, Ricky Proehl, Kevin Curtis and Dane Looker all caught plenty of balls in that offense too, not to mention the contribution Faulk made. The personnel we have is geared towards a run-orientated offense so Martz would be a bad choice.
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Posted 13 January 2010 - 10:25 AM

We're a great running team because we have one of the worst receivers group in the league. Without upgrading in that area, a OC like Martz would be a waste. My bet is Callahan gets promoted to OC.
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Posted 13 January 2010 - 10:36 AM

[quote name='SignalZero' date='13 January 2010 - 08:25 AM' timestamp='1263396328' post='292658']
We're a great running team because we have one of the worst receivers group in the league. Without upgrading in that area, a OC like Martz would be a waste. My bet is Callahan gets promoted to OC.
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We are a great running team because our O-Line. Hell, we could be even better if Thomas Jones could hit the hole, not the backside of our offensive line!

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 11:04 AM

[quote name='JSOTF' date='13 January 2010 - 10:36 AM' timestamp='1263396998' post='292660']
We are a great running team because our O-Line. Hell, we could be even better if Thomas Jones could hit the hole, not the backside of our offensive line!

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Excellent point!
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Posted 13 January 2010 - 11:13 AM

Hue Jackson or Bill Callahan (Is he a West Coast offense guy?)
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Posted 13 January 2010 - 11:29 AM

My vote would be for Callahan. He could still mold the O-line as OC and his offense is exactly what the team wants to do. But I will say that I worry about Sanchez under Callahan. What good QBs has he worked with and made? I can't name one.
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Posted 13 January 2010 - 11:35 AM

I hear they're bringin in Paul Hackett for an interview!

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