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SecondHandJets Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:25 PM) I've read a ton of articles and all had him as the favorite
SecondHandJets Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:25 PM) Who was the favorite then?
SecondHandJets Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:27 PM) "Smith was already going to be on most Heisman preseason lists, but a 407-yard, 6-TD performance in the Orange Bowl win over Clemson only solidified him as an elite passer. He can make every throw on the field and has a plethora of talented receivers coming back. Since this team will likely be playing in the Big 12, which has had the uncanny knack for inflating quarterback numbers recently, Smith and head coach Dana Holgorsen are going to leave opposing defenses charred and crippled on most Saturdays."
SecondHandJets Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:27 PM) That's from a Jan 2012 article
SecondHandJets Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:27 PM) You can google shit from 14 months ago and find a f*** ton of these
SecondHandJets Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:29 PM) http://news.yahoo.com/top-10-heisman-trophy-candidates-2012-heading-season-150300441--ncaaf.html
SecondHandJets Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:31 PM) http://newyork.sbnation.com/2012/8/17/3249284/heisman-trophy-watchlist-2012-las-vegas-betting-odds-line-matt-barkley-montee-ball-denard-robinson
SecondHandJets Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:32 PM) He was 4th according to Vegas odds in April 2012
Jetsman05 Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:53 PM) 4th makes him the favorite?
Jetsman05 Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:53 PM) you said he was the favorite
Jetsman05 Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:53 PM) he wasn't anything near the favorite
Jetsman05 Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:54 PM) he reached his pinnacle in the heisman race in the early part of last season
Jetsman05 Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:54 PM) at that point he was the favorite
Jetsman05 Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:56 PM) also, what a basketball game
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 May 2013 - 10:21 PM) 4 point game
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 May 2013 - 10:21 PM) maybe the pacers are that good
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 12:36 AM) I said that his time last year, he was the favorite. I misspoke. He was 3rd or 4th. He certainly wasn't "not even in the 2nd tier" like you claimed
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 12:36 AM) Take your medicine Matty
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 12:36 AM) Maybe you should watch more college football instead of talking about watching college football
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:46 AM) No he wasn't 3rd or 4th
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:47 AM) He was the 4th favorite in vegas, making him no where near the favorite
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:47 AM) Barkley had 3/2 odds, Geno was 9-1
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:48 AM) It's whatever
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:50 AM) Manish leaving jets beat
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:51 AM) About time
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 11:22 AM) Was he "not even in the 2nd tier"? No. STFU
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:25 AM) Was he the favorite?
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:26 AM) Or even close to the favorite?
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:27 AM) Nice Manish leaving? Good shit
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:43 AM) SHJ, your boy EJ leads a very sad life
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:57 AM) haha why do you say that
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:03 PM) I'm friends with SHJ on Facebook and I replied "TEH KNICKS" then EJ recognized my name and started commenting saying shit
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:04 PM) He then goes "yeah and f*** the Knicks" I wanted to tell him he doesn't know what that joke is because he's banned
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:05 PM) haha
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:05 PM) what a dick
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 01:55 PM) Yea i saw that about an hour after
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 01:55 PM) Very cringy
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 01:56 PM) He didn't bring anything to the table
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 02:38 PM) how can you say that? you supported the f*** out of him
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 02:40 PM) I like him when hes not off his rocking chair which is rare
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Strong Possibility If Schotty Leaves Martz Is The Favorite

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Posted 12 January 2010 - 08:12 PM

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I heard it on Total Access, they said if Shotty goes to Buffalo that Martz wants the OC job and could be a strong possibility to get it.


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Posted 12 January 2010 - 08:18 PM

interesting. can we have our own greatest show on turf?
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 08:36 PM

No thanks, doesn't Mike Martz like to go downfield and not run the ball? How does that fit us?
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 08:42 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 12 January 2010 - 08:36 PM, said:

No thanks, doesn't Mike Martz like to go downfield and not run the ball? How does that fit us?


Exactly. That's why he was let go from San Fran. Singletary wanted a ball control, run oriented offense, not Mike Martz.
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 08:44 PM

he did have faulk lead the league in rushing i believe.

anyway i'd rather keep schotty. i'm one of the few here that likes him.
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 08:45 PM

Martz is shit. Rex would never employ the guy.
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 08:55 PM

Faulk's rushing numbers in '99, 2000, and 2001. 1,381, 1,359, 1,382. He did average 5.5, then 5.4, and then 5.3. However, the Rams were not run-oriented. Faulk had 253 carries in '99 and 2000, and 260 carries in 01. Since T.J. has been in NY, he has had 310 carries, then 290, and now 331. Faulk never lead the league in rushing yards.

Fact is, we are a run, run, run, and then run again team. Not Mike Martz. Outside of possibly Leon, none of our running backs pose the same type of receiving threat Marshall Faulk was with Martz in St. Louis. It just wouldn't work. Martz has had complicated routes, and it would be silly to give Sanchez a whole new offense to learn.


If Schotty leaves, promote from within and keep the same offense! Essentially just switch the playcaller.

*Edit* The Bills are also trying to interview Russ Grimm. To jog your memory, he is an assistant for Arizona, who was interviewed before Ken Whisenhunt was hired. IMO, Grimm takes the Buffalo job.
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 10:37 PM

Faulk was just a machine that Martz used to run out the clock. He would have only a very few carries going into the fourth quarter, but if they were up he would come in and get his stats. When vermeil was there he made Faulk the focus, but once Martz took over it was all passing.

I hope for all heck we don't get Martz. Unless he for some reason commits to basing the game against the run. We don't have anythign close to his receivers. Besides, as much as I make fun of the Colts being arena league to my buddy who is a Colts fan, he'd kill me over Martz.
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 10:40 PM

View PostA1elbow, on 12 January 2010 - 07:37 PM, said:

Faulk was just a machine that Martz used to run out the clock. He would have only a very few carries going into the fourth quarter, but if they were up he would come in and get his stats. When vermeil was there he made Faulk the focus, but once Martz took over it was all passing.

I hope for all heck we don't get Martz. Unless he for some reason commits to basing the game against the run. We don't have anythign close to his receivers. Besides, as much as I make fun of the Colts being arena league to my buddy who is a Colts fan, he'd kill me over Martz.


i could be the best OC of all time with peyton at QB. just let him do everything and take all the credit
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 11:00 PM

if anythin we should hire Moochi or Gruden, but they wouldnt want to be OC's for us
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 11:40 PM

please no, i dont want Martz, he doesnt fit our personnel at all.
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Posted 13 January 2010 - 04:19 AM

I sure as hell don't want Mike Martz. He plays favorites with the QBs on the roster, he's a bully, and he'll screw up Sanchez's mechanics if Mark is not "his style" of a QB.


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Posted 13 January 2010 - 04:32 AM

This is the same O.C that forgot about Frank Gore in S.F. The same guy who neglects TE in the passing game. Martz wants a free ride with a great defense. Lets be honest guys, any O.C can survive here with our defense. Who'd have to be pretty bad.

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 06:44 AM

View PostMr_Jet, on 13 January 2010 - 09:19 AM, said:

I sure as hell don't want Mike Martz. He plays favorites with the QBs on the roster, he's a bully, and he'll screw up Sanchez's mechanics if Mark is not "his style" of a QB.


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No doubt there would be a clash of personalities between him and Rex at some point too as both guys are pretty confident in themselves - justifiably so in Ryan's case. Everywhere he has gone he has installed a pass-happy offense, which is a complete reserve-face of the ethos of this team and arguably would stunt Sanchez' growth.

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This is the same O.C that forgot about Frank Gore in S.F. The same guy who neglects TE in the passing game. Martz wants a free ride with a great defense. Lets be honest guys, any O.C can survive here with our defense. Who'd have to be pretty bad.


The RBs on the roster and Dustin Keller - even though he was very quiet at times this year - are the keys to this offense. Cotchery and Edwards are good receivers, but behind them there isn't anybody who has proven themselves reliable enough to be targetted in the passing game that Martz would want. Brad Smith has proven productive, but more so when running the ball out of the wildcat and on the odd reverse. Bruce and Holt were the two main guys in St. Louis with him, but the likes of Az Zahir Hakim, Ricky Proehl, Kevin Curtis and Dane Looker all caught plenty of balls in that offense too, not to mention the contribution Faulk made. The personnel we have is geared towards a run-orientated offense so Martz would be a bad choice.
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Posted 13 January 2010 - 10:25 AM

We're a great running team because we have one of the worst receivers group in the league. Without upgrading in that area, a OC like Martz would be a waste. My bet is Callahan gets promoted to OC.
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Posted 13 January 2010 - 10:36 AM

View PostSignalZero, on 13 January 2010 - 08:25 AM, said:

We're a great running team because we have one of the worst receivers group in the league. Without upgrading in that area, a OC like Martz would be a waste. My bet is Callahan gets promoted to OC.



We are a great running team because our O-Line. Hell, we could be even better if Thomas Jones could hit the hole, not the backside of our offensive line!

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 11:04 AM

View PostJSOTF, on 13 January 2010 - 10:36 AM, said:

We are a great running team because our O-Line. Hell, we could be even better if Thomas Jones could hit the hole, not the backside of our offensive line!

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Excellent point!
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Posted 13 January 2010 - 11:13 AM

Hue Jackson or Bill Callahan (Is he a West Coast offense guy?)
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Posted 13 January 2010 - 11:29 AM

My vote would be for Callahan. He could still mold the O-line as OC and his offense is exactly what the team wants to do. But I will say that I worry about Sanchez under Callahan. What good QBs has he worked with and made? I can't name one.
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Posted 13 January 2010 - 11:35 AM

I hear they're bringin in Paul Hackett for an interview!

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