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santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) well
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) Because we destoy any promise in our young QBs with our elite offensive support talent.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) TIME TO CHANGE THE DIAPER
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) another game next week
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) 3-0 with Sanchez? Oh god...we've gone there already?
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Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:49 PM) Morninweg's system is get the offense going then throw a monkey wrench into things by putting the backup QB in there and f***ing up the offense's rhythm.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:50 PM) Yes I went there. Geno spots these teams 7-10 points weekly and has turned the ball in the redzone 3 games in a row. If not for 2 dropped ints geno would have 4 picks. Dude sucks at best
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:51 PM) Then we got Chris ivory running like marshawn lynch out there and they sit him on the bench the whole fourth quarter
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:52 PM) I'd like to use the same excuse I used for Sanchez. QB can't really do shit when your best WR would be a #3 if he was lucky on any other team
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santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) What's kerleys contract like
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) because if he's underpaid I don't see him sticking around
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:54 PM) he only looks good because our O is so bad.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:54 PM) I bet a lot of teams have their eye on him
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:56 PM) Decker doesn't need to play until he is completely healthy
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ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:43 PM) Idzik better not be stingy this offseason and address the biggest issues we have WR and Secondary
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ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 09:21 AM) As a guy who has been on this site since its inception and is still not a moderator which I guess is cause I'm not part of the rat pack who runs this joint I think GENO should still be the starter.
mgjetman Icon : (Today, 10:19 AM) We still could have won this game with the bad calls. Geno just sucks. All the pick six's, missing wide open receivers, bad throws when they are fought. Stupid trick plays because they don't trust him.
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santana Icon : (Today, 10:32 AM) There were another 2-3 ints the bears were gifted but were dropped
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:22 AM) f***
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MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:22 AM) 1-3 when I go se them
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:32 AM) Refs fucked up the fumble for a TD. by calling it down the first time everyone in the stadium saw it as a fumble
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ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 12:47 PM) :zz:
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 12:53 PM) and no I will not say that Idzik needs to be canned cause he doesn't
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Strong Possibility If Schotty Leaves Martz Is The Favorite

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Posted 12 January 2010 - 08:12 PM

[quote]I heard it on Total Access, they said if Shotty goes to Buffalo that Martz wants the OC job and could be a strong possibility to get it.[/quote]

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Posted 12 January 2010 - 08:18 PM

interesting. can we have our own greatest show on turf?
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 08:36 PM

No thanks, doesn't Mike Martz like to go downfield and not run the ball? How does that fit us?
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 08:42 PM

[quote name='Jetsfan0099' date='12 January 2010 - 08:36 PM' timestamp='1263346579' post='292603']
No thanks, doesn't Mike Martz like to go downfield and not run the ball? How does that fit us?
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Exactly. That's why he was let go from San Fran. Singletary wanted a ball control, run oriented offense, not Mike Martz.
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 08:44 PM

he did have faulk lead the league in rushing i believe.

anyway i'd rather keep schotty. i'm one of the few here that likes him.
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 08:45 PM

Martz is shit. Rex would never employ the guy.
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 08:55 PM

Faulk's rushing numbers in '99, 2000, and 2001. 1,381, 1,359, 1,382. He did average 5.5, then 5.4, and then 5.3. However, the Rams were not run-oriented. Faulk had 253 carries in '99 and 2000, and 260 carries in 01. Since T.J. has been in NY, he has had 310 carries, then 290, and now 331. Faulk never lead the league in rushing yards.

Fact is, we are a run, run, run, and then run again team. Not Mike Martz. Outside of possibly Leon, none of our running backs pose the same type of receiving threat Marshall Faulk was with Martz in St. Louis. It just wouldn't work. Martz has had complicated routes, and it would be silly to give Sanchez a whole new offense to learn.


If Schotty leaves, promote from within and keep the same offense! Essentially just switch the playcaller.

*Edit* The Bills are also trying to interview Russ Grimm. To jog your memory, he is an assistant for Arizona, who was interviewed before Ken Whisenhunt was hired. IMO, Grimm takes the Buffalo job.
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 10:37 PM

Faulk was just a machine that Martz used to run out the clock. He would have only a very few carries going into the fourth quarter, but if they were up he would come in and get his stats. When vermeil was there he made Faulk the focus, but once Martz took over it was all passing.

I hope for all heck we don't get Martz. Unless he for some reason commits to basing the game against the run. We don't have anythign close to his receivers. Besides, as much as I make fun of the Colts being arena league to my buddy who is a Colts fan, he'd kill me over Martz.
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Exterminate all rational thought, that is the conclusion I have come to
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 10:40 PM

[quote name='A1elbow' date='12 January 2010 - 07:37 PM' timestamp='1263353832' post='292629']
Faulk was just a machine that Martz used to run out the clock. He would have only a very few carries going into the fourth quarter, but if they were up he would come in and get his stats. When vermeil was there he made Faulk the focus, but once Martz took over it was all passing.

I hope for all heck we don't get Martz. Unless he for some reason commits to basing the game against the run. We don't have anythign close to his receivers. Besides, as much as I make fun of the Colts being arena league to my buddy who is a Colts fan, he'd kill me over Martz.
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i could be the best OC of all time with peyton at QB. just let him do everything and take all the credit
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 11:00 PM

if anythin we should hire Moochi or Gruden, but they wouldnt want to be OC's for us
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 11:40 PM

please no, i dont want Martz, he doesnt fit our personnel at all.
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Posted 13 January 2010 - 04:19 AM

I sure as hell don't want Mike Martz. He plays favorites with the QBs on the roster, he's a bully, and he'll screw up Sanchez's mechanics if Mark is not "his style" of a QB.


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Posted 13 January 2010 - 04:32 AM

This is the same O.C that forgot about Frank Gore in S.F. The same guy who neglects TE in the passing game. Martz wants a free ride with a great defense. Lets be honest guys, any O.C can survive here with our defense. Who'd have to be pretty bad.

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 06:44 AM

[quote name='Mr_Jet' date='13 January 2010 - 09:19 AM' timestamp='1263374340' post='292647']
I sure as hell don't want Mike Martz. He plays favorites with the QBs on the roster, he's a bully, and he'll screw up Sanchez's mechanics if Mark is not "his style" of a QB.


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No doubt there would be a clash of personalities between him and Rex at some point too as both guys are pretty confident in themselves - justifiably so in Ryan's case. Everywhere he has gone he has installed a pass-happy offense, which is a complete reserve-face of the ethos of this team and arguably would stunt Sanchez' growth.

[quote name='S-Dubb' date='13 January 2010 - 09:32 AM' timestamp='1263375164' post='292648']
This is the same O.C that forgot about Frank Gore in S.F. The same guy who neglects TE in the passing game. Martz wants a free ride with a great defense. Lets be honest guys, any O.C can survive here with our defense. Who'd have to be pretty bad.

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The RBs on the roster and Dustin Keller - even though he was very quiet at times this year - are the keys to this offense. Cotchery and Edwards are good receivers, but behind them there isn't anybody who has proven themselves reliable enough to be targetted in the passing game that Martz would want. Brad Smith has proven productive, but more so when running the ball out of the wildcat and on the odd reverse. Bruce and Holt were the two main guys in St. Louis with him, but the likes of Az Zahir Hakim, Ricky Proehl, Kevin Curtis and Dane Looker all caught plenty of balls in that offense too, not to mention the contribution Faulk made. The personnel we have is geared towards a run-orientated offense so Martz would be a bad choice.
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Posted 13 January 2010 - 10:25 AM

We're a great running team because we have one of the worst receivers group in the league. Without upgrading in that area, a OC like Martz would be a waste. My bet is Callahan gets promoted to OC.
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Posted 13 January 2010 - 10:36 AM

[quote name='SignalZero' date='13 January 2010 - 08:25 AM' timestamp='1263396328' post='292658']
We're a great running team because we have one of the worst receivers group in the league. Without upgrading in that area, a OC like Martz would be a waste. My bet is Callahan gets promoted to OC.
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We are a great running team because our O-Line. Hell, we could be even better if Thomas Jones could hit the hole, not the backside of our offensive line!

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 11:04 AM

[quote name='JSOTF' date='13 January 2010 - 10:36 AM' timestamp='1263396998' post='292660']
We are a great running team because our O-Line. Hell, we could be even better if Thomas Jones could hit the hole, not the backside of our offensive line!

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Excellent point!
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Posted 13 January 2010 - 11:13 AM

Hue Jackson or Bill Callahan (Is he a West Coast offense guy?)
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Posted 13 January 2010 - 11:29 AM

My vote would be for Callahan. He could still mold the O-line as OC and his offense is exactly what the team wants to do. But I will say that I worry about Sanchez under Callahan. What good QBs has he worked with and made? I can't name one.
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Posted 13 January 2010 - 11:35 AM

I hear they're bringin in Paul Hackett for an interview!

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