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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (23 September 2016 - 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 10:09 AM) BREAKING NEWS: Santana is a jinx during JETS games
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Posted 19 January 2010 - 10:45 AM

San Diego Chargers offense is no match for Rex Ryan, New York Jets' scheme

BY Hank Gola
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER

Originally Published:Monday, January 18th 2010, 4:00 AM
Updated: Monday, January 18th 2010, 11:42 AM




SAN DIEGO - It was a textbook playbook. It followed the formula of what Rex Ryan calls Jets football, a masterpiece of a defensive game plan - executed with brute artistry - that made it possible for the offense to play its old-school game and eventually put the game away.

Ryan and defensive coordinator Mike Pettine emptied the playbook and shut down one of the league's most explosive offenses by confusing Philip Rivers yesterday. They took the Chargers out of their comfort zone and San Diego self-destructed with uncharacteristic penalties, mistakes and turnovers.

The Jets didn't just force the Chargers to play their game. They forced them to lose their game, 17-14. And now Peyton Manning has a lot to mull over as he prepares for this defense in next Sunday's AFC Championship Game.

Ryan was so impressed, he felt the need to "apologize to our fans for going to soft at the end of the game," when they worked the clock, played zone and allowed the Chargers to score a second touchdown.

"Their defense was perfect," San Diego running back LaDainian Tomlinson said.

It was so confusing to the Chargers, quarterback Philip Rivers called two timeouts before the first quarter was over.

The Jets played seven, even eight defensive backs and blitzed from every direction, bringing more people than the Chargers could block and forcing Rivers to settle for underneath receivers, outlets and hot reads.

The Chargers' three big-play weapons - wideout Vincent Jackson, tight end Antonio Gates and running back Darren Sproles - never made their presence felt. The Jets did what no other team was able to do all year: they contained all three.

While Darrelle Revis wasn't on Jackson exclusively, he had him on what Ryan called "tough downs" and made one of the key plays of the game. Rivers, trying to cash in on a Mark Sanchez interception, threw up one of his patented jump balls to the 6-5 receiver. Revis stripped the ball and came up with the interception with a fortunate bounce off Jackson's leg and into his arms.

"We were playing a lot of man coverage on (Revis') side regardless of who the receiver was. And on the other side we were running some located zones and mixes and things like that," Ryan explained.

The Jets played what Ryan called "one and a half" coverage on Sproles, with "one guy on him and a half a guy spying him," and limited his production in the passing game to three catches for 30 yards. Sproles had 33 rushing yards, but inexplicably got only three carries while Tomlinson rushed 12 times for 24 yards - the fifth time in seven career playoff games he's been held under 50.

Gates, meanwhile, was held to eight catches for 93 yards and was never able to get down the field.

The Chargers' only touchdowns came on a pass to third-string tight end Kris Wilson and a 1-yard run by Rivers, and San Diego was held under 20 points for the first time all season.

"They do a lot of different things," Gates said. "You look up and there are two down linemen and nine guys walking around."

That, said Norv Turner, had the Chargers scrambling to get into the right protections, which led to false starts.

According to safety Kerry Rhodes, the turning point came in the second quarter when the Jets started playing more man coverage. The Chargers had scored by then on a four-play drive to take a 7-0 lead, thanks to a throwback screen against the grain to Gates and a blown coverage for the TD to Wilson as he found a hole in the zone. Rivers was 13-for-19 for 159 yards in the first half, 14-for-21 for 139 with two interceptions in the second.

"We started playing more man and got in their face," said Rhodes, who had a lot more responsibility for Gates after the change of philosophy. "It took away from their timing. In zone, they were running around and getting free."

At halftime, the Jets defenders prevailed upon Ryan to stay man and come after Rivers.

"Turn us loose," said DE Marques Douglas.

"We got a little more aggressive," Rhodes said. "We told coach and we started playing some Cover One and Cover Zero."

Turner, as it turned out, played right into the Jets' hands. It almost seemed the Chargers were force-feeding Tomlinson with poor results, especially when they tried to follow the Bengals' lead by running against the Jets' sub packages. Dominance on first down allowed the Jets' defense to dominate third. The Chargers were 4-for-13 on third-down conversions, rarely facing short-yardage situations.

"We believed they were a finesse football team," linebacker Bart Scott said. "We wanted to make sure we made them know that every time they got tackled to be looking. Those hard hits set a tone. It made some guys start hearing some footsteps."

Eventually, the offense started playing Jets football as well, thanks to the scoreboard. After four straight three-and-outs and six straight punts, the Jets, down just 7-0, were still able to keep pounding the football and leave Sanchez with manageable down and distance for the most part. Shonn Greene's 53-yard TD burst was the breaking point but it couldn't have come if Sanchez had been forced to match throws with Rivers.

"It's a matter of time when we're doing what we want to do, pounding the ball, until it falls in our favor," said center Nick Mangold. "We call it chopping the tree. It took a little longer but we got it done."
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Posted 19 January 2010 - 11:06 AM


[b][font="Times New Roman"][size="3"][quote]You Will Like This Man Version Of The Game[/quote][/size][/font][/b]

Why yes, yes I did. I loves me some defense, and that was a great read. Thanks!
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Posted 19 January 2010 - 12:07 PM

There is plenty of talk about the NEW YORK JETS today on the NFL Network the nation has taken notice .
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Posted 19 January 2010 - 02:51 PM

[quote name='gmany3k' date='19 January 2010 - 12:07 PM' timestamp='1263920870' post='293325']
There is plenty of talk about the NEW YORK JETS today on the NFL Network the nation has taken notice .
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I think Rex and his D-Coord might be writing a new dynamic before our very eyes. If the Jets D can neutralize Manning and his crew on "do or die"-day, I will have no choice but to consider those two the most cutting-edge minds for defense in the NFL. Period.

There's a shit-ton of prep like everyone else, but it's the chess game that has me so intrigued. Serious minds at work. I love it. Hell, if I could, I'd lend you 1993-97 Derrick Thomas for the rest of the season just to see what Rex could do with him.

And I mean that.
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