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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Once Again It's The Same Old Jets

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 05:38 PM

Will things ever change for this franchise? As always it's wait till next year.
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Posted 24 January 2010 - 05:48 PM

[b]You can't say same old jets when we're playing in the AFC title game. we need another DB. Revis shutdown teams with one star DB. Colts got 3 star besides Reggie wayne. There's only one Revis. We need another one. Coleman must go. Lito is average. [/b]
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Posted 24 January 2010 - 06:03 PM

[quote name='cmpunk' date='24 January 2010 - 05:38 PM' timestamp='1264372715' post='293947']
Will things ever change for this franchise? As always it's wait till next year.
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We played in the AFC Championship game. That's change enough. Next year looks bright. This loss is gonna be painful but in no way can this season be counted as "same old."
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Posted 24 January 2010 - 06:04 PM

Every team before they became champs got punched in their mouth. How many years was Peyton labeled a choker?
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Posted 24 January 2010 - 06:15 PM

the same old jets woulda got crushed in Cincy,

this isn't the same old jets.
Get it done MT
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Posted 24 January 2010 - 06:17 PM

Nope. Same old Jets would have meant us finding a way to lose in Week 17 to the Bengals.

No we just got outplayed by a team that has better and more experienced players, it's as simple as that. The Jets had more heart, the Colts just had better players.

Hopefully we'll get a pass rusher this off-season with a healthy Jenkins and Washington, and it'll be a different result next year.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 24 January 2010 - 06:19 PM

Looks like we have a winner at QB, he has played well this postseason and didn't show any nerves when many rookie QB do. He played the best game I've seen out of a rookie QB in the AFC Championship game, Flacco and Big Ben both did bad.
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Posted 24 January 2010 - 06:32 PM

Okay granted...perhaps its time we should look into scoring second half points in AFC Championship games...but hey, as a 9-7 team, we made it here. I don't know whats happening next year but if it's uncapped then theres no reason we shouldn't have the league's top defense again added to a more experienced QB as well as Shonn Greene. Lets get that division back from New England to start with. Go Jets.
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Posted 24 January 2010 - 06:51 PM

Same old Jets from now on win when they aren't supposed to. Same old Jets play well above their expectations. Same old Jets win.
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Posted 24 January 2010 - 07:56 PM

I hate that expression - "Same old Jets" !
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Posted 24 January 2010 - 08:22 PM

If this was the "same ole' Jets", I would have never watched the game then. This Jets team is by far no way near those Ole' same dam teams of old. The future is bright, the foundation is set, I believe !!
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Posted 24 January 2010 - 08:25 PM

[quote name='cmpunk' date='24 January 2010 - 05:38 PM' timestamp='1264372715' post='293947']
Will things ever change for this franchise? As always it's wait till next year.
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ur fuckin high. it was a great year!

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 08:36 PM

This thread is useless. Thanks for wasting my time.

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 08:50 PM

You won CM Punk. You won. You solicited a response.

You are a fuckin idiot.

For my other Jet fan brothers and sisters who are true fans that have jumped on the bus for the journey to Cortland and through the regular season.....I can't wait for year two of the program. as Rex said we are bound to see Abama one of these years......SOON
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Posted 24 January 2010 - 08:54 PM

man as much confidence rex spews it just doesnt seem to reach that inept part of our fan base

as sdubb put it kick rocks!

someone close this shit
we had a great year and i cant wait for the next
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Posted 26 January 2010 - 08:33 PM

With all apologies to Dubb who locked this topic .. and I really don't want to perpetuate the negativity that the 'Same Old Jets' implies .. but I feel like if I don't get this off my chest I might just explode ...


I know we should be happy with the run we just had. It was a great one towards the end, and the opening was pretty sweet too!! With lots of reasons to believe we may be onto something. Its been a season that I will certainly celebrate in retrospect ...

Yet Monday morning brought that old familiar pain crashing back. The pain of coming so far, so close, after soooo long! Until that pain is replaced by the joy it must feel like to win, a joy we actually felt agonizingly close again this year, I have to agree. Its the Same Old Jets.

Not that its been all bad to be the S. O. J. There have been good moments ... hell there have been some [u]great[/u] moments ... we all have our faves. And to say that I will ever give up on my team would be blasphemous. And to think I won't get that same excitement, like a kid on Christmas morning, when the next 'game day' comes, foolish. I love this team, LOVE em! Love em like God loves a drunk. We keep watching him come so close, only to fall down and yet we keep hoping and praying he"ll find the strength to get up and find his way home.

Until we reach that 'home'. Until they actually win a title, give us some reason to believe. They'll always be the Same Old Jets.

That said .. I'll be the first guy on my feet .. and the loudest guy in the .. well I cant say stadium anymore .. they priced me outta there .. so I guess I'll be the loudest guy in my house. And if any vaGiants fan were to start some shit with me he'd be messing with the wrong Jets fan. C'Mon guys .. lets not wait another 11 years before we get back here again.

J! E! T! S! JETS! JETS!! JETS!!!

I'm gonna leave this topic open until tomorrow .. so those who want to flame me .. may do so ...
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Posted 26 January 2010 - 08:53 PM

[quote name='CrazyHorseDave' date='26 January 2010 - 08:33 PM' timestamp='1264556030' post='294415']
With all apologies to Dubb who locked this topic .. and I really don't want to perpetuate the negativity that the 'Same Old Jets' implies .. but I feel like if I don't get this off my chest I might just explode ...


I know we should be happy with the run we just had. It was a great one towards the end, and the opening was pretty sweet too!! With lots of reasons to believe we may be onto something. Its been a season that I will certainly celebrate in retrospect ...

Yet Monday morning brought that old familiar pain crashing back. The pain of coming so far, so close, after soooo long! Until that pain is replaced by the joy it must feel like to win, a joy we actually felt agonizingly close again this year, I have to agree. Its the Same Old Jets.

Not that its been all bad to be the S. O. J. There have been good moments ... hell there have been some [u]great[/u] moments ... we all have our faves. And to say that I will ever give up on my team would be blasphemous. And to think I won't get that same excitement, like a kid on Christmas morning, when the next 'game day' comes, foolish. I love this team, LOVE em! Love em like God loves a drunk. We keep watching him come so close, only to fall down and yet we keep hoping and praying he"ll find the strength to get up and find his way home.

Until we reach that 'home'. Until they actually win a title, give us some reason to believe. They'll always be the Same Old Jets.

That said .. I'll be the first guy on my feet .. and the loudest guy in the .. well I cant say stadium anymore .. they priced me outta there .. so I guess I'll be the loudest guy in my house. And if any vaGiants fan were to start some shit with me he'd be messing with the wrong Jets fan. C'Mon guys .. lets not wait another 11 years before we get back here again.

J! E! T! S! JETS! JETS!! JETS!!!

I'm gonna leave this topic open until tomorrow .. so those who want to flame me .. may do so ...
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I'll be the first to flame.

SOJ is so long gone bro. Speaking of perpetuate, the people who cry SOJ are the same people keeping it around. This is what I don't understand. This isn't the mud bowl or the fake spike. This isn't Herm in 04-05 playing not to lose. It's funny, how in the hell can people even mention SOJ right now?.. we lost to a awesome football team that should have gone perfect. They beat 14 teams straight and against one of the best Q.B's MAYBE EVER! This isn't like losing to some scrub team. I hate the loss but damn man, we had a great run with a rookie Q.B and a rookie head coach and defense learning a new system. How can SOJ possibly even enter the brain at this time?

You know that familiar feeling your talking about crazy?... well I have an unfamiliar feeling right now. You know, a confidence in my team, an identity that I usually don't have with my team. I see a team on the rise. I see a team with swag and with brashness. A team that (IMO) will always be in the thick of it as long as we have Rex as coach. A defense that will only get better and a franchise Q.B on the verge of becoming into his own.

Man, I really truly deeply hate the SOJ garbage. It's a cancer and it has no place with todays Jets. SOJ doesn't make the AFC championship. SOJ doesn't have the top defense. SOJ doesn't have what it takes for deep playoff runs because SOJ would LOSE and LOSE IN AWFUL FASHION.

I'm sorry to say this but the young Jets generation is going to be the cure for SOJ because the older guys who still marinate this concept are killing it for everyone else. The win against the Chargers is one of our biggest wins of all time. How can anyone say SOJ right now.

if the mantra is superbowl or SOJ then count me out because in all honesty, thats the silliest thing I've ever heard.

I've never been more proud of my team. I've never been more proud to wear my green then right now. Look at the 2 guys Rex basically hand picked. Mark and Greene. Rex is going to bring in tough,smart gritty players into this organization. When people were calling us dead in Cinci they won, they were calling for our head in S.D and we won. We went to Indy and the injury bug hit. We had Ihedigbo at corner with Stick and Lito and Lowery all ailing.

Bro SOJ has never been more dead.


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Posted 26 January 2010 - 09:10 PM

even if its still alive its been long enough so that people should be able to deal with it
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Posted 26 January 2010 - 09:16 PM

[quote name='S-Dubb' date='26 January 2010 - 08:53 PM' timestamp='1264557217' post='294423']
I'll be the first to flame.

SOJ is so long gone bro. Speaking of perpetuate, the people who cry SOJ are the same people keeping it around. This is what I don't understand. This isn't the mud bowl or the fake spike. This isn't Herm in 04-05 playing not to lose. It's funny, how in the hell can people even mention SOJ right now?.. we lost to a awesome football team that should have gone perfect. They beat 14 teams straight and against one of the best Q.B's MAYBE EVER! This isn't like losing to some scrub team. I hate the loss but damn man, we had a great run with a rookie Q.B and a rookie head coach and defense learning a new system. How can SOJ possibly even enter the brain at this time?
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We've had great runs before .. one of em with the affor mentioned Herm .. he took us to the post season as a rookie HC with a young QB .. then what happened? SOJ

Fake spike .. OK .. then we beat em to go to the playoffs (86 I think?) then what happened? SOJ

How can it enter my brain? well .. as I said until we win .. we will live with the ghosts of the past


[quote] You know that familiar feeling your talking about crazy?... well I have an unfamiliar feeling right now. You know, a confidence in my team, an identity that I usually don't have with my team. I see a team on the rise. I see a team with swag and with brashness. A team that (IMO) will always be in the thick of it as long as we have Rex as coach. A defense that will only get better and a franchise Q.B on the verge of becoming into his own. [/quote]

I hope you are right .. and I agree there are plenty of signs that point to this being different .. but right now .. we won nothing but the 29th pick in the draft .. last week was so amazing here in the city Jets fans wearing their green with PRIDE!! (I still am .. BTW) .. people spontaneously starting the J E T S chant .. and not taunting me by ending with suck suck suck .. it was great .. the skyline lit up in green and white .. I thought I was gonna burst with pride at the Times Square rally .. but as I said on Monday .. its the SOJ


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SOJ doesn't have the top defense. SOJ doesn't have what it takes for deep playoff runs[/quote]

Sack exchange .. 86 .. SOJ

[quote] I'm sorry to say this but the young Jets generation is going to be the cure for SOJ because the older guys who still marinate this concept are killing it for everyone else. The win against the Chargers is one of our biggest wins of all time. How can anyone say SOJ right now.
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If it was up to the fans .. us old guys would have stomped out that patsies flame long before it started .. if it was up to us old guys .. dan marino would be working at a gay car wash somewhere down in florida .. it aint up to us .. we've been there every Sunday .. early .. for years .. some of em good .. some of em miserable .. but I never missed a kickoff in my time going to the games ... and when its time to get up and yell and scream and pray .. Im the first guy outta my seat .. and more often than not .. the last guy to admit its over .. so please .. don't blame me .. I'm just rooting with all my might and tired of ending up with a broken heart .. SOJ

[quote] if the mantra is superbowl or SOJ then count me out because in all honesty, thats the silliest thing I've ever heard.[/quote]

If you aint the lead dog .. the view never changes


[quote] I've never been more proud of my team. I've never been more proud to wear my green then right now. Look at the 2 guys Rex basically hand picked. Mark and Greene. Rex is going to bring in tough,smart gritty players into this organization. When people were calling us dead in Cinci they won, they were calling for our head in S.D and we won. We went to Indy and the injury bug hit. We had Ihedigbo at corner with Stick and Lito and Lowery all ailing.[/quote]

Couldn't agree more here .. I love this team .. I think I may have mentioned that once or twice before .. I believe this team with this defense and coaching staff and our QB who is only gonna get better .. will lead us to lofty goals somewhere down the line .. but today .. SOJ

[quote] Bro SOJ has never been more dead.[/quote]

then what is this sickness in my belly and this pain in my heart?
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