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Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
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MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (20 August 2014 - 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The JETS are #6 in the Forbes List for most franchise value
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The Buffalo Jills are #31 and the Miami Dolphags are #16 respectively
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 07:00 PM) The JETS are worth $1.8 billion
jet-man Icon : (20 August 2014 - 10:03 PM) that's less than the clippers
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 01:07 PM) I'm very excited with the amount of preseason touchdowns the Jets have
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 03:21 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 07:22 PM) Calvin Pryor and Darrin Walls will start tomorrow
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 08:52 PM) The SIMPSONS MARATHON has been on for almost 12 hours...
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 08:57 PM) Sanchez looks so much more confident and better in Chip's offense than he did with us
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 09:50 PM) EVERY SIMPSONS EVER!!!!!
2JBallar01 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:10 AM) Sanchez is looking good for the eagles. Crazy how a good offense and the right system can make you look so much better. When you're put into a situatuon to succeed, magic happens. Happy for Sanchez, i think he needed a change just as much as the Jets did.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:02 AM) Preseason doesn't matter at all
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:10 AM) anyone have a stream for the preseaosn agme by chance?
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:06 PM) Don't read to much into Mark in the preseason. He usually looked good in the preseason even in a Jets uniform.. Big difference from regular season where the 1st string defense is playing 100%.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:09 PM) A lot of 1st stringers are just getting reps in and trying not to get injured. Its only the backups trying to keep or get a job playing hard every down. If preseason qb play meant anything then Matt Simms would be the starting qb of the Jets.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 12:00 AM) In Geno we trust
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 07:23 AM) preseason or not, our offense hasn't looked competent in a while like it does this year. our rushing attack should be very good. Chris Johnson and Chris Ivory could be a dynamic duo
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Jets Likely To Make A Pre-Draft Splash With Free Agency Or Trade

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Posted 05 April 2010 - 12:55 PM

[b]New York Jets likely to make a pre-draft splash with free agency or trade; plan to sign Neil Rackers[/b]
BY [url="http://www.nydailynews.com/authors/Rich%20Cimini"][color="#015fb6"]Rich Cimini[/color][/url]
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Monday, April 5th 2010, 4:00 AM

[img]http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2010/04/05/alg_rackers.jpg[/img] [b]Gross/Getty[/b][b]Former Arizona Cardinals kicker Neil Rackers will likely sign with the New York Jets this week.[/b]


The [url="http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/New+York+Jets"][color="#015fb6"]Jets[/color][/url] have gone three weeks since their last significant player move - the signing of [url="http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/LaDainian+Tomlinson"][color="#015fb6"]LaDainian Tomlinson[/color][/url]. In their world, that's an eternity, but it doesn't mean they're out of tricks.They're not planning to go peacefully into the April 22 draft. League insiders believe ever-aggressive [url="http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Mike+Tannenbaum"][color="#015fb6"]GM Mike Tannenbaum[/color][/url] may have a surprise or two before the Jets shift into draft mode. Considering the timing - 10 days before the deadline for signing restricted free agents - it's possible the Jets are preparing to plunge into the RFA market.

That is sure to ratchet up the speculation regarding [url="http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Brandon+Marshall"][color="#015fb6"]Brandon Marshall[/color][/url], but league sources continued to maintain yesterday that the Jets aren't interested in signing or trading for the [url="http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Denver+Broncos"][color="#015fb6"]Broncos[/color][/url] wide receiver.

One move that could happen this week involves the kicking situation. Now that [url="http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Jay+Feely"][color="#015fb6"]Jay Feely[/color][/url] has signed with the [url="http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Arizona+Cardinals"][color="#015fb6"]Cardinals[/color][/url], the Jets are planning to visit with unrestricted free agent [url="http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Neil+Rackers"][color="#015fb6"]Neil Rackers[/color][/url], who spent the last seven seasons with the Cards.

Rackers, 33, is scheduled to arrive tonight and will meet tomorrow with Jets officials, sources confirmed. The Jets already have recently signed veteran [url="http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Nick+Folk"][color="#015fb6"]Nick Folk[/color][/url] on the roster - he signed Feb. 23, when talks with Feely hit an impasse - but Folk is coming off a bad year and they may want to add a more reliable kicker to compete with him.

Rackers is a 78% career field-goal kicker (not counting two big misses in last season's playoffs) and is widely regarded as the top kicker remaining on the market. The [url="http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Baltimore+Ravens"][color="#015fb6"]Ravens[/color][/url] and [url="http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Cincinnati+Bengals"][color="#015fb6"]Bengals[/color][/url] also are believed to be interested.

By rule, the Jets now are eligible to sign an unrestricted free agent to replace Feely, but as a "Final Eight" team, they can't sign a player to a greater first-year salary than the one they lost. Based on Feely's contract, that means they have about $1.25 million to play with. It's not enough to make a huge splash, but it should be enough to secure Rackers or another kicker.

The Jets have needs at wide receiver, defensive line and quarterback (a veteran backup), so it's possible Tannenbaum is plotting a pre-draft move to plug one or more holes with a trade and/or free-agent signing. The team has acknowledged an interest in former Bengals and Jets [url="http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Laveranues+Coles"][color="#015fb6"]wide receiver Laveranues Coles[/color][/url], a free agent.

The Jets are also interested in locking up two of their young stars, cornerback [url="http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Darrelle+Revis"][color="#015fb6"]Darrelle Revis[/color][/url] and [url="http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Nick+Mangold"][color="#015fb6"]center Nick Mangold[/color][/url], to long-term deals.

The Jets own the 29th pick in the upcoming draft, but that doesn't mean they will pick in that spot. Tannenbaum has traded up in two of the last three drafts to select Revis and quarterback [url="http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Mark+Sanchez"][color="#015fb6"]Mark Sanchez[/color][/url], and he won't hesitate to move up for an elite player.



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Posted 05 April 2010 - 01:45 PM

Interesting, Interesting indeed!

I don't think we make a move a DE, I think we sign Coles and draft defense.

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Posted 05 April 2010 - 02:18 PM

[quote name='S-Dubb' date='05 April 2010 - 02:45 PM' timestamp='1270493130' post='299447']
Interesting, Interesting indeed!

I don't think we make a move a DE, I think we sign Coles and draft defense.

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If we sign Coles again i am going to be pissed. We finally got away from the cry baby, he has barely anything left in the tank, and we already have ball catching issues with Braylon, we do not need to add another pair of unreliable hands to the mix. drafting a receiver would be better in every possibly way.
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Posted 05 April 2010 - 04:38 PM

:clears throat:

Eric Berry!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Eric Berry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted 05 April 2010 - 04:51 PM

[quote name='SecondHandJets' date='05 April 2010 - 03:38 PM' timestamp='1270503521' post='299456']
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Eric Berry!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Eric Berry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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YES THE FIFTH DIMENSION!

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Posted 06 April 2010 - 08:02 AM

[quote name='Clemens11' date='05 April 2010 - 02:18 PM' timestamp='1270495096' post='299452']
If we sign Coles again i am going to be pissed. We finally got away from the cry baby, he has barely anything left in the tank, and we already have ball catching issues with Braylon, we do not need to add another pair of unreliable hands to the mix. drafting a receiver would be better in every possibly way.
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I couldn't agree more!!! Coles = :Cry: :Cry:
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Posted 06 April 2010 - 08:23 AM

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I couldn't agree more!!! Coles = :Cry: :Cry:
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I also agree, the future is where its at!
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Posted 06 April 2010 - 01:41 PM

I'm still a Coles fan. People want to complain that he left the team twice for financial reasons but can you blame the guy? He knew what he was doing...he got overpaid by the skins...we traded for him back with the contract he wanted. Last year he was guaranteed something like 6 million but he knew he could make more else where. The jets renegotiated his contract and cut him loose and he got a 4 year 30 mill contract from the Bengals. He obviously didn't stick around long in Cinci but the guy made more than the 6 million the Jets were going to pay him. I actually just looked it up. He made 9.75 million last year. Like him or not he made some great financial decisions in his career. The guy is 32 and his career is almost over...he had to take advantage while he still could. I don't blame him a bit.

While there may not be a whole lot of interest for him now...he's a Jet and would be a reliable 3rd WR. He did have 5 TD's 500 yards and played a full season in a run first offense in 2009. If he was able to play in the Bengals offense, I think he may have another year left in him for the green and white. He is a pretty decent blocker and still has a good relationship with the organization.

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Posted 06 April 2010 - 03:24 PM

[quote name='extmenace' date='06 April 2010 - 11:41 AM' timestamp='1270579302' post='299517']
I'm still a Coles fan. People want to complain that he left the team twice for financial reasons but can you blame the guy? He knew what he was doing...he got overpaid by the skins...we traded for him back with the contract he wanted. Last year he was guaranteed something like 6 million but he knew he could make more else where. The jets renegotiated his contract and cut him loose and he got a 4 year 30 mill contract from the Bengals. He obviously didn't stick around long in Cinci but the guy made more than the 6 million the Jets were going to pay him. I actually just looked it up. He made 9.75 million last year. Like him or not he made some great financial decisions in his career. The guy is 32 and his career is almost over...he had to take advantage while he still could. I don't blame him a bit.

While there may not be a whole lot of interest for him now...he's a Jet and would be a reliable 3rd WR. He did have 5 TD's 500 yards and played a full season in a run first offense in 2009. If he was able to play in the Bengals offense, I think he may have another year left in him for the green and white. He is a pretty decent blocker and still has a good relationship with the organization.
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I agree, I would like to have coles back as well. He is tough and would be a great #3 reciever for us for a few years. Coles is a Jet and always will be a Jet and he knows this. He is always welcome
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Posted 06 April 2010 - 07:31 PM

[quote name='extmenace' date='06 April 2010 - 02:41 PM' timestamp='1270579302' post='299517']
I'm still a Coles fan. People want to complain that he left the team twice for financial reasons but can you blame the guy? He knew what he was doing...he got overpaid by the skins...we traded for him back with the contract he wanted. Last year he was guaranteed something like 6 million but he knew he could make more else where. The jets renegotiated his contract and cut him loose and he got a 4 year 30 mill contract from the Bengals. He obviously didn't stick around long in Cinci but the guy made more than the 6 million the Jets were going to pay him. I actually just looked it up. He made 9.75 million last year. Like him or not he made some great financial decisions in his career. The guy is 32 and his career is almost over...he had to take advantage while he still could. I don't blame him a bit.

While there may not be a whole lot of interest for him now...he's a Jet and would be a reliable 3rd WR. He did have 5 TD's 500 yards and played a full season in a run first offense in 2009. If he was able to play in the Bengals offense, I think he may have another year left in him for the green and white. He is a pretty decent blocker and still has a good relationship with the organization.
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A reliable receiver means he would have reliable hands, which he doesnt. therefore, im sorry, but your point is moot. There is no point in having a receiver in his 30's who is only getting slower and more fragile, and who has drop issues(most of which are near or in the endzone). You can keep the 500 yards and 5 tds, cus if we bring in a rookie we can have the same chance at getting similar numbers that coles would(in our offense) only we would have a chance to groom him and would have him at the beginning of his career and not the end.
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Posted 06 April 2010 - 07:32 PM

You know, when the abused wife keeps going back, people give up and say she gets what she deserves.

Coles-lovers, you get what you deserve.
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Posted 06 April 2010 - 07:47 PM

my only pro argument for coles is that we keep grooming these young WRs but none of them have yet to make an impact for us. besides stuckey getting traded for some value.

you could argue this for any veteran WR available.. besides cotchery we have yet to make a starter out of any wr drafted beyond round 3
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Posted 06 April 2010 - 07:58 PM

I used to be a Coles fan. Didnt like it when he lef us for the Skins but was still ok with him coming back then. Then he starts with his cry baby bull$hit whenever his lover Chad was questioned about being able to perform. While its admirable that he stuck up for his boy, like he has said himself on many occasions, this is a business. Its a business when it works out for him but he cries like a b!tch when it doesn't.

Coles is one concussion short of retirement. The ONLY way I'd want him back for a third stint is if its at league minimum for a vet receiver. He's more risk than reward now, so I would personally pass on him. Ten to one says he lands with the Fins if Tanny doesnt bring him back. I also say the only way Tanny brings him back is if we dont get the WR he really wants via FA/RFA or the draft.

Coles is the second coming of Meshawn Johnson with the exception that Meshawn can probably still play at a higher level than Coles.
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Posted 06 April 2010 - 08:35 PM

you were making sense till about......... there

[quote name='FlyHiJets' date='06 April 2010 - 08:58 PM' timestamp='1270601907' post='299541']
Coles is the second coming of Meshawn Johnson with the exception that Meshawn can probably still play at a higher level than Coles.
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Posted 06 April 2010 - 09:35 PM

Coles as a jet Wr I dare anyone to not cover him. just let him go he is over paid and much to old. he was wise to mangini . he knows the ring is in our country.
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Posted 06 April 2010 - 11:52 PM

[quote name='santana' date='06 April 2010 - 08:47 PM' timestamp='1270601227' post='299538']
my only pro argument for coles is that we keep grooming these young WRs but none of them have yet to make an impact for us. besides stuckey getting traded for some value.

you could argue this for any veteran WR available.. besides cotchery we have yet to make a starter out of any [b]wr drafted beyond round 3[/b]
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Thats why we draft a wr before round 3 this year[img]http://nyjetsfan.com/forum2/public/style_emoticons/default/exciting-32.png[/img] [img]http://nyjetsfan.com/forum2/public/style_emoticons/default/grimace-32.png[/img]

Santanna Moss was a playmaker for us, take round 1. Besides him what receiver have we taken in the 1st 2 rounds since Keyshawn?

look, the likes of Marcus Henry and Brad Smith(who doesnt really count as drafted as a wr), are projects you hope pan out. Smith has panned out for different uses but not as a great receiving threat. You dont usually draft guys in the later rounds and think that is going to be your #1 receiver in the future. does it happen? yes, but those are surprise players like Marques Colston. If you asked the Saints war room that day if they thought Colston would do half of what hes done already they'd think your nuts.

Teams draft people they BELIEVE to be #1 receiver talent early, unless they think they can steal one in the late rounds but thats rare. so if you truely want a fair and legit chance at us grooming our own, you gotta draft a serious and legit wr prospect.
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Posted 07 April 2010 - 12:34 AM

[quote name='Clemens11' date='07 April 2010 - 12:52 AM' timestamp='1270615927' post='299552']
Thats why we draft a wr before round 3 this year[img]http://nyjetsfan.com/forum2/public/style_emoticons/default/exciting-32.png[/img] [img]http://nyjetsfan.com/forum2/public/style_emoticons/default/grimace-32.png[/img]

Santanna Moss was a playmaker for us, take round 1. Besides him what receiver have we taken in the 1st 2 rounds since Keyshawn?

look, the likes of Marcus Henry and Brad Smith(who doesnt really count as drafted as a wr), are projects you hope pan out. Smith has panned out for different uses but not as a great receiving threat. You dont usually draft guys in the later rounds and think that is going to be your #1 receiver in the future. does it happen? yes, but those are surprise players like Marques Colston. If you asked the Saints war room that day if they thought Colston would do half of what hes done already they'd think your nuts.

Teams draft people they BELIEVE to be #1 receiver talent early, unless they think they can steal one in the late rounds but thats rare. so if you truely want a fair and legit chance at us grooming our own, you gotta draft a serious and legit wr prospect.
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Posted 07 April 2010 - 12:40 PM

[quote name='Clemens11' date='07 April 2010 - 01:31 AM' timestamp='1270600291' post='299535']
A reliable receiver means he would have reliable hands, which he doesnt. therefore, im sorry, but your point is moot. There is no point in having a receiver in his 30's who is only getting slower and more fragile, and who has drop issues(most of which are near or in the endzone). You can keep the 500 yards and 5 tds, cus if we bring in a rookie we can have the same chance at getting similar numbers that coles would(in our offense) only we would have a chance to groom him and would have him at the beginning of his career and not the end.
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But he'd only be brought back as a backup - and Coles would know that too - so I don't see why it is considered a huge no-no bringing back a solid veteran receiver. He may come with a bit of baggage, but he wouldn't be coming back to be a playmaker. Heck, why not add Coles and a rookie? The more targets for Sanchez the better, and you're going to have to wait for the rookie to adjust to the NFL at first.
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Posted 07 April 2010 - 03:39 PM

[quote name='Smedsthejet' date='07 April 2010 - 01:40 PM' timestamp='1270662031' post='299591']
But he'd only be brought back as a backup - and Coles would know that too - so I don't see why it is considered a huge no-no bringing back a solid veteran receiver. He may come with a bit of baggage, but he wouldn't be coming back to be a playmaker. Heck, why not add Coles and a rookie? The more targets for Sanchez the better, and you're going to have to wait for the rookie to adjust to the NFL at first.
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Reasons why that is a bad idea:

1. Money(even though its uncapped i doubt coles takes a paycut and would take a one year deal therefore he will eventually count against the cap)

2. The rookie receiver will be held back if coles is placed above him, therefore it will take even longer to groom the rook. Keep coles out and let the receiver make plays and learn under fire, he isnt a qb, so he wont need to be babied. By your reasoning developing a rookie as a #3 would be perfect becuase there arent expectations that are to high but yet he can still make plays and be another target for Sanchez.

3. What about Clowney? How many times have we gone with 5 wrs on the field last year? So how are you going to expect us to use Coles, Edwards, Clowney, Cotchery, and a rookie plus if we want Keller staying in? Again coles is just taking up space.

4. What is worse? a starter complaining or a bench player complaining? you tell me[img]http://nyjetsfan.com/forum2/public/style_emoticons/default/grimace-32.png[/img]

5. WE WANT A PLAYMAKER! the whole point of getting another wr is to get a PLAYMAKING wr, not some guy on his last leg looking for his last payday who cant make plays anymore. We need another homerun hitter, not joe blow.

6. Coles is not solid. He is slower, he has issues holding onto the ball, whether it be drops or fumbles, and he has durability issues.

Final thing ill say about Coles: as previously stated by someone else, he is one concussion away from forced retirement. Why pay a guy that has a high chance of being gone with one more hit? Obviously and sadly, anyone's career can end on one play, but Coles is a lot more likely than most. So why pay a guy and waste a roster spot on a guy who could get paid to sit on the sideline with his final concussion then retire?
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Posted 07 April 2010 - 04:47 PM

[quote name='Clemens11' date='07 April 2010 - 09:39 PM' timestamp='1270672747' post='299632']
Reasons why that is a bad idea:

1. Money(even though its uncapped i doubt coles takes a paycut and would take a one year deal therefore he will eventually count against the cap)

2. The rookie receiver will be held back if coles is placed above him, therefore it will take even longer to groom the rook. Keep coles out and let the receiver make plays and learn under fire, he isnt a qb, so he wont need to be babied. By your reasoning developing a rookie as a #3 would be perfect becuase there arent expectations that are to high but yet he can still make plays and be another target for Sanchez.

3. What about Clowney? How many times have we gone with 5 wrs on the field last year? So how are you going to expect us to use Coles, Edwards, Clowney, Cotchery, and a rookie plus if we want Keller staying in? Again coles is just taking up space.

4. What is worse? a starter complaining or a bench player complaining? you tell me[img]http://nyjetsfan.com/forum2/public/style_emoticons/default/grimace-32.png[/img]

5. WE WANT A PLAYMAKER! the whole point of getting another wr is to get a PLAYMAKING wr, not some guy on his last leg looking for his last payday who cant make plays anymore. We need another homerun hitter, not joe blow.

6. Coles is not solid. He is slower, he has issues holding onto the ball, whether it be drops or fumbles, and he has durability issues.

Final thing ill say about Coles: as previously stated by someone else, he is one concussion away from forced retirement. Why pay a guy that has a high chance of being gone with one more hit? Obviously and sadly, anyone's career can end on one play, but Coles is a lot more likely than most. So why pay a guy and waste a roster spot on a guy who could get paid to sit on the sideline with his final concussion then retire?
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To answer a couple of your points: by this point in his career Coles isn't going to be looking for a payday - he got a decent cheque from the Bengals after all, whilst I think he would be content with having a backup role (the portrayal of him as a whinger is exaggerated IMO given that all I can remember him griping about was the intensity of Mangini's training camps and that never seemed to strain their relationship). In regards to Clowney - he was hardly used probably because he isn't a very good receiver. He's had two years on the roster now and has only ever shown in preseason. On the issue of a playmaker, is that not what Edwards' role is meant to be? Tall, fast and can stretch the field?
Out of a #3 WR you can't expect eye dropping numbers, and Coles still had a decent year in Cincinatti, in which he stayed healthy.
We're disagreeing over what we think needs in terms of receivers - you believe the team needs a playmaker, whilst I see the team requiring depth and someone who can produce at either #3 or #4 on the depth chart.
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