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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
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Jets Likely To Make A Pre-Draft Splash With Free Agency Or Trade

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Posted 05 April 2010 - 12:55 PM

[b]New York Jets likely to make a pre-draft splash with free agency or trade; plan to sign Neil Rackers[/b]
BY [url="http://www.nydailynews.com/authors/Rich%20Cimini"][color="#015fb6"]Rich Cimini[/color][/url]
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Monday, April 5th 2010, 4:00 AM

[img]http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2010/04/05/alg_rackers.jpg[/img] [b]Gross/Getty[/b][b]Former Arizona Cardinals kicker Neil Rackers will likely sign with the New York Jets this week.[/b]


The [url="http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/New+York+Jets"][color="#015fb6"]Jets[/color][/url] have gone three weeks since their last significant player move - the signing of [url="http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/LaDainian+Tomlinson"][color="#015fb6"]LaDainian Tomlinson[/color][/url]. In their world, that's an eternity, but it doesn't mean they're out of tricks.They're not planning to go peacefully into the April 22 draft. League insiders believe ever-aggressive [url="http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Mike+Tannenbaum"][color="#015fb6"]GM Mike Tannenbaum[/color][/url] may have a surprise or two before the Jets shift into draft mode. Considering the timing - 10 days before the deadline for signing restricted free agents - it's possible the Jets are preparing to plunge into the RFA market.

That is sure to ratchet up the speculation regarding [url="http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Brandon+Marshall"][color="#015fb6"]Brandon Marshall[/color][/url], but league sources continued to maintain yesterday that the Jets aren't interested in signing or trading for the [url="http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Denver+Broncos"][color="#015fb6"]Broncos[/color][/url] wide receiver.

One move that could happen this week involves the kicking situation. Now that [url="http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Jay+Feely"][color="#015fb6"]Jay Feely[/color][/url] has signed with the [url="http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Arizona+Cardinals"][color="#015fb6"]Cardinals[/color][/url], the Jets are planning to visit with unrestricted free agent [url="http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Neil+Rackers"][color="#015fb6"]Neil Rackers[/color][/url], who spent the last seven seasons with the Cards.

Rackers, 33, is scheduled to arrive tonight and will meet tomorrow with Jets officials, sources confirmed. The Jets already have recently signed veteran [url="http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Nick+Folk"][color="#015fb6"]Nick Folk[/color][/url] on the roster - he signed Feb. 23, when talks with Feely hit an impasse - but Folk is coming off a bad year and they may want to add a more reliable kicker to compete with him.

Rackers is a 78% career field-goal kicker (not counting two big misses in last season's playoffs) and is widely regarded as the top kicker remaining on the market. The [url="http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Baltimore+Ravens"][color="#015fb6"]Ravens[/color][/url] and [url="http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Cincinnati+Bengals"][color="#015fb6"]Bengals[/color][/url] also are believed to be interested.

By rule, the Jets now are eligible to sign an unrestricted free agent to replace Feely, but as a "Final Eight" team, they can't sign a player to a greater first-year salary than the one they lost. Based on Feely's contract, that means they have about $1.25 million to play with. It's not enough to make a huge splash, but it should be enough to secure Rackers or another kicker.

The Jets have needs at wide receiver, defensive line and quarterback (a veteran backup), so it's possible Tannenbaum is plotting a pre-draft move to plug one or more holes with a trade and/or free-agent signing. The team has acknowledged an interest in former Bengals and Jets [url="http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Laveranues+Coles"][color="#015fb6"]wide receiver Laveranues Coles[/color][/url], a free agent.

The Jets are also interested in locking up two of their young stars, cornerback [url="http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Darrelle+Revis"][color="#015fb6"]Darrelle Revis[/color][/url] and [url="http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Nick+Mangold"][color="#015fb6"]center Nick Mangold[/color][/url], to long-term deals.

The Jets own the 29th pick in the upcoming draft, but that doesn't mean they will pick in that spot. Tannenbaum has traded up in two of the last three drafts to select Revis and quarterback [url="http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Mark+Sanchez"][color="#015fb6"]Mark Sanchez[/color][/url], and he won't hesitate to move up for an elite player.



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Posted 05 April 2010 - 01:45 PM

Interesting, Interesting indeed!

I don't think we make a move a DE, I think we sign Coles and draft defense.

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Posted 05 April 2010 - 02:18 PM

[quote name='S-Dubb' date='05 April 2010 - 02:45 PM' timestamp='1270493130' post='299447']
Interesting, Interesting indeed!

I don't think we make a move a DE, I think we sign Coles and draft defense.

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If we sign Coles again i am going to be pissed. We finally got away from the cry baby, he has barely anything left in the tank, and we already have ball catching issues with Braylon, we do not need to add another pair of unreliable hands to the mix. drafting a receiver would be better in every possibly way.
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Posted 05 April 2010 - 04:38 PM

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Eric Berry!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Eric Berry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted 05 April 2010 - 04:51 PM

[quote name='SecondHandJets' date='05 April 2010 - 03:38 PM' timestamp='1270503521' post='299456']
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Eric Berry!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Eric Berry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted 06 April 2010 - 08:02 AM

[quote name='Clemens11' date='05 April 2010 - 02:18 PM' timestamp='1270495096' post='299452']
If we sign Coles again i am going to be pissed. We finally got away from the cry baby, he has barely anything left in the tank, and we already have ball catching issues with Braylon, we do not need to add another pair of unreliable hands to the mix. drafting a receiver would be better in every possibly way.
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I couldn't agree more!!! Coles = :Cry: :Cry:
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Posted 06 April 2010 - 08:23 AM

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I couldn't agree more!!! Coles = :Cry: :Cry:
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I also agree, the future is where its at!
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Posted 06 April 2010 - 01:41 PM

I'm still a Coles fan. People want to complain that he left the team twice for financial reasons but can you blame the guy? He knew what he was doing...he got overpaid by the skins...we traded for him back with the contract he wanted. Last year he was guaranteed something like 6 million but he knew he could make more else where. The jets renegotiated his contract and cut him loose and he got a 4 year 30 mill contract from the Bengals. He obviously didn't stick around long in Cinci but the guy made more than the 6 million the Jets were going to pay him. I actually just looked it up. He made 9.75 million last year. Like him or not he made some great financial decisions in his career. The guy is 32 and his career is almost over...he had to take advantage while he still could. I don't blame him a bit.

While there may not be a whole lot of interest for him now...he's a Jet and would be a reliable 3rd WR. He did have 5 TD's 500 yards and played a full season in a run first offense in 2009. If he was able to play in the Bengals offense, I think he may have another year left in him for the green and white. He is a pretty decent blocker and still has a good relationship with the organization.

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Posted 06 April 2010 - 03:24 PM

[quote name='extmenace' date='06 April 2010 - 11:41 AM' timestamp='1270579302' post='299517']
I'm still a Coles fan. People want to complain that he left the team twice for financial reasons but can you blame the guy? He knew what he was doing...he got overpaid by the skins...we traded for him back with the contract he wanted. Last year he was guaranteed something like 6 million but he knew he could make more else where. The jets renegotiated his contract and cut him loose and he got a 4 year 30 mill contract from the Bengals. He obviously didn't stick around long in Cinci but the guy made more than the 6 million the Jets were going to pay him. I actually just looked it up. He made 9.75 million last year. Like him or not he made some great financial decisions in his career. The guy is 32 and his career is almost over...he had to take advantage while he still could. I don't blame him a bit.

While there may not be a whole lot of interest for him now...he's a Jet and would be a reliable 3rd WR. He did have 5 TD's 500 yards and played a full season in a run first offense in 2009. If he was able to play in the Bengals offense, I think he may have another year left in him for the green and white. He is a pretty decent blocker and still has a good relationship with the organization.
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I agree, I would like to have coles back as well. He is tough and would be a great #3 reciever for us for a few years. Coles is a Jet and always will be a Jet and he knows this. He is always welcome
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Posted 06 April 2010 - 07:31 PM

[quote name='extmenace' date='06 April 2010 - 02:41 PM' timestamp='1270579302' post='299517']
I'm still a Coles fan. People want to complain that he left the team twice for financial reasons but can you blame the guy? He knew what he was doing...he got overpaid by the skins...we traded for him back with the contract he wanted. Last year he was guaranteed something like 6 million but he knew he could make more else where. The jets renegotiated his contract and cut him loose and he got a 4 year 30 mill contract from the Bengals. He obviously didn't stick around long in Cinci but the guy made more than the 6 million the Jets were going to pay him. I actually just looked it up. He made 9.75 million last year. Like him or not he made some great financial decisions in his career. The guy is 32 and his career is almost over...he had to take advantage while he still could. I don't blame him a bit.

While there may not be a whole lot of interest for him now...he's a Jet and would be a reliable 3rd WR. He did have 5 TD's 500 yards and played a full season in a run first offense in 2009. If he was able to play in the Bengals offense, I think he may have another year left in him for the green and white. He is a pretty decent blocker and still has a good relationship with the organization.
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A reliable receiver means he would have reliable hands, which he doesnt. therefore, im sorry, but your point is moot. There is no point in having a receiver in his 30's who is only getting slower and more fragile, and who has drop issues(most of which are near or in the endzone). You can keep the 500 yards and 5 tds, cus if we bring in a rookie we can have the same chance at getting similar numbers that coles would(in our offense) only we would have a chance to groom him and would have him at the beginning of his career and not the end.
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Posted 06 April 2010 - 07:32 PM

You know, when the abused wife keeps going back, people give up and say she gets what she deserves.

Coles-lovers, you get what you deserve.
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Posted 06 April 2010 - 07:47 PM

my only pro argument for coles is that we keep grooming these young WRs but none of them have yet to make an impact for us. besides stuckey getting traded for some value.

you could argue this for any veteran WR available.. besides cotchery we have yet to make a starter out of any wr drafted beyond round 3
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Posted 06 April 2010 - 07:58 PM

I used to be a Coles fan. Didnt like it when he lef us for the Skins but was still ok with him coming back then. Then he starts with his cry baby bull$hit whenever his lover Chad was questioned about being able to perform. While its admirable that he stuck up for his boy, like he has said himself on many occasions, this is a business. Its a business when it works out for him but he cries like a b!tch when it doesn't.

Coles is one concussion short of retirement. The ONLY way I'd want him back for a third stint is if its at league minimum for a vet receiver. He's more risk than reward now, so I would personally pass on him. Ten to one says he lands with the Fins if Tanny doesnt bring him back. I also say the only way Tanny brings him back is if we dont get the WR he really wants via FA/RFA or the draft.

Coles is the second coming of Meshawn Johnson with the exception that Meshawn can probably still play at a higher level than Coles.
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Posted 06 April 2010 - 08:35 PM

you were making sense till about......... there

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Posted 06 April 2010 - 09:35 PM

Coles as a jet Wr I dare anyone to not cover him. just let him go he is over paid and much to old. he was wise to mangini . he knows the ring is in our country.
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Posted 06 April 2010 - 11:52 PM

[quote name='santana' date='06 April 2010 - 08:47 PM' timestamp='1270601227' post='299538']
my only pro argument for coles is that we keep grooming these young WRs but none of them have yet to make an impact for us. besides stuckey getting traded for some value.

you could argue this for any veteran WR available.. besides cotchery we have yet to make a starter out of any [b]wr drafted beyond round 3[/b]
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Thats why we draft a wr before round 3 this year[img]http://nyjetsfan.com/forum2/public/style_emoticons/default/exciting-32.png[/img] [img]http://nyjetsfan.com/forum2/public/style_emoticons/default/grimace-32.png[/img]

Santanna Moss was a playmaker for us, take round 1. Besides him what receiver have we taken in the 1st 2 rounds since Keyshawn?

look, the likes of Marcus Henry and Brad Smith(who doesnt really count as drafted as a wr), are projects you hope pan out. Smith has panned out for different uses but not as a great receiving threat. You dont usually draft guys in the later rounds and think that is going to be your #1 receiver in the future. does it happen? yes, but those are surprise players like Marques Colston. If you asked the Saints war room that day if they thought Colston would do half of what hes done already they'd think your nuts.

Teams draft people they BELIEVE to be #1 receiver talent early, unless they think they can steal one in the late rounds but thats rare. so if you truely want a fair and legit chance at us grooming our own, you gotta draft a serious and legit wr prospect.
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Posted 07 April 2010 - 12:34 AM

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Thats why we draft a wr before round 3 this year[img]http://nyjetsfan.com/forum2/public/style_emoticons/default/exciting-32.png[/img] [img]http://nyjetsfan.com/forum2/public/style_emoticons/default/grimace-32.png[/img]

Santanna Moss was a playmaker for us, take round 1. Besides him what receiver have we taken in the 1st 2 rounds since Keyshawn?

look, the likes of Marcus Henry and Brad Smith(who doesnt really count as drafted as a wr), are projects you hope pan out. Smith has panned out for different uses but not as a great receiving threat. You dont usually draft guys in the later rounds and think that is going to be your #1 receiver in the future. does it happen? yes, but those are surprise players like Marques Colston. If you asked the Saints war room that day if they thought Colston would do half of what hes done already they'd think your nuts.

Teams draft people they BELIEVE to be #1 receiver talent early, unless they think they can steal one in the late rounds but thats rare. so if you truely want a fair and legit chance at us grooming our own, you gotta draft a serious and legit wr prospect.
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Posted 07 April 2010 - 12:40 PM

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A reliable receiver means he would have reliable hands, which he doesnt. therefore, im sorry, but your point is moot. There is no point in having a receiver in his 30's who is only getting slower and more fragile, and who has drop issues(most of which are near or in the endzone). You can keep the 500 yards and 5 tds, cus if we bring in a rookie we can have the same chance at getting similar numbers that coles would(in our offense) only we would have a chance to groom him and would have him at the beginning of his career and not the end.
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But he'd only be brought back as a backup - and Coles would know that too - so I don't see why it is considered a huge no-no bringing back a solid veteran receiver. He may come with a bit of baggage, but he wouldn't be coming back to be a playmaker. Heck, why not add Coles and a rookie? The more targets for Sanchez the better, and you're going to have to wait for the rookie to adjust to the NFL at first.
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Posted 07 April 2010 - 03:39 PM

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But he'd only be brought back as a backup - and Coles would know that too - so I don't see why it is considered a huge no-no bringing back a solid veteran receiver. He may come with a bit of baggage, but he wouldn't be coming back to be a playmaker. Heck, why not add Coles and a rookie? The more targets for Sanchez the better, and you're going to have to wait for the rookie to adjust to the NFL at first.
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Reasons why that is a bad idea:

1. Money(even though its uncapped i doubt coles takes a paycut and would take a one year deal therefore he will eventually count against the cap)

2. The rookie receiver will be held back if coles is placed above him, therefore it will take even longer to groom the rook. Keep coles out and let the receiver make plays and learn under fire, he isnt a qb, so he wont need to be babied. By your reasoning developing a rookie as a #3 would be perfect becuase there arent expectations that are to high but yet he can still make plays and be another target for Sanchez.

3. What about Clowney? How many times have we gone with 5 wrs on the field last year? So how are you going to expect us to use Coles, Edwards, Clowney, Cotchery, and a rookie plus if we want Keller staying in? Again coles is just taking up space.

4. What is worse? a starter complaining or a bench player complaining? you tell me[img]http://nyjetsfan.com/forum2/public/style_emoticons/default/grimace-32.png[/img]

5. WE WANT A PLAYMAKER! the whole point of getting another wr is to get a PLAYMAKING wr, not some guy on his last leg looking for his last payday who cant make plays anymore. We need another homerun hitter, not joe blow.

6. Coles is not solid. He is slower, he has issues holding onto the ball, whether it be drops or fumbles, and he has durability issues.

Final thing ill say about Coles: as previously stated by someone else, he is one concussion away from forced retirement. Why pay a guy that has a high chance of being gone with one more hit? Obviously and sadly, anyone's career can end on one play, but Coles is a lot more likely than most. So why pay a guy and waste a roster spot on a guy who could get paid to sit on the sideline with his final concussion then retire?
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Posted 07 April 2010 - 04:47 PM

[quote name='Clemens11' date='07 April 2010 - 09:39 PM' timestamp='1270672747' post='299632']
Reasons why that is a bad idea:

1. Money(even though its uncapped i doubt coles takes a paycut and would take a one year deal therefore he will eventually count against the cap)

2. The rookie receiver will be held back if coles is placed above him, therefore it will take even longer to groom the rook. Keep coles out and let the receiver make plays and learn under fire, he isnt a qb, so he wont need to be babied. By your reasoning developing a rookie as a #3 would be perfect becuase there arent expectations that are to high but yet he can still make plays and be another target for Sanchez.

3. What about Clowney? How many times have we gone with 5 wrs on the field last year? So how are you going to expect us to use Coles, Edwards, Clowney, Cotchery, and a rookie plus if we want Keller staying in? Again coles is just taking up space.

4. What is worse? a starter complaining or a bench player complaining? you tell me[img]http://nyjetsfan.com/forum2/public/style_emoticons/default/grimace-32.png[/img]

5. WE WANT A PLAYMAKER! the whole point of getting another wr is to get a PLAYMAKING wr, not some guy on his last leg looking for his last payday who cant make plays anymore. We need another homerun hitter, not joe blow.

6. Coles is not solid. He is slower, he has issues holding onto the ball, whether it be drops or fumbles, and he has durability issues.

Final thing ill say about Coles: as previously stated by someone else, he is one concussion away from forced retirement. Why pay a guy that has a high chance of being gone with one more hit? Obviously and sadly, anyone's career can end on one play, but Coles is a lot more likely than most. So why pay a guy and waste a roster spot on a guy who could get paid to sit on the sideline with his final concussion then retire?
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To answer a couple of your points: by this point in his career Coles isn't going to be looking for a payday - he got a decent cheque from the Bengals after all, whilst I think he would be content with having a backup role (the portrayal of him as a whinger is exaggerated IMO given that all I can remember him griping about was the intensity of Mangini's training camps and that never seemed to strain their relationship). In regards to Clowney - he was hardly used probably because he isn't a very good receiver. He's had two years on the roster now and has only ever shown in preseason. On the issue of a playmaker, is that not what Edwards' role is meant to be? Tall, fast and can stretch the field?
Out of a #3 WR you can't expect eye dropping numbers, and Coles still had a decent year in Cincinatti, in which he stayed healthy.
We're disagreeing over what we think needs in terms of receivers - you believe the team needs a playmaker, whilst I see the team requiring depth and someone who can produce at either #3 or #4 on the depth chart.
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