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azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
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Jets Likely To Make A Pre-Draft Splash With Free Agency Or Trade

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Posted 07 April 2010 - 06:53 PM

We have all been brainwashed. The big splash will be a new pool added to Florham Park that Rexy is going to do a cannonball into during the summer!

Bringing back Coles, on the cheap, for depth wouldn't be a bad idea. He isn't going to push B.E. or Cotch, but he could be a slot receiver for a year, or a number 4. I don't think we sign Coles, why bother. We can draft a guy to be our slot receiver, or if we get a little lucky, we draft Dez Bryant, maybe Thomas from GTech, and when we go 3 wide put J-Co in the slot, with B.E. and Rookie out wide. Plus, Coles is one big hit away from being done.
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Posted 07 April 2010 - 08:15 PM

[quote name='Smedsthejet' date='07 April 2010 - 05:47 PM' timestamp='1270676841' post='299643']
To answer a couple of your points: by this point in his career Coles isn't going to be looking for a payday - he got a decent cheque from the Bengals after all, whilst I think he would be content with having a backup role (the portrayal of him as a whinger is exaggerated IMO given that all I can remember him griping about was the intensity of Mangini's training camps and that never seemed to strain their relationship). In regards to Clowney - he was hardly used probably because he isn't a very good receiver. He's had two years on the roster now and has only ever shown in preseason. On the issue of a playmaker, is that not what Edwards' role is meant to be? Tall, fast and can stretch the field?
Out of a #3 WR you can't expect eye dropping numbers, and Coles still had a decent year in Cincinatti, in which he stayed healthy.
We're disagreeing over what we think needs in terms of receivers - you believe the team needs a playmaker, whilst I see the team requiring depth and someone who can produce at either #3 or #4 on the depth chart.
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You cant have too many playmakers and Edwards only catches 1 out of every 5 deep balls. The Jets are reported as looking for another playmaker, not just me. And all we have as a homerun threat right now is leon, and he is comming off a broken leg.

I didnt mean to insinuate coles wanted a large contract, just a larger one then he desrves, and frankly, he isnt worth veteran minimum right now, especially not if hes a 4th receiver.

As for Clowney, im not saying hes great, but the FO seems to think he can become something and he finally scored this year. if they want him to get a bigger role Coles and a rookie would kill that. And right now id take Clowney over Coles, becuase at least Clowney can still burn.

And if you want a slow, aging receiver, who would be looked to as a possesion receiver(when he cant even keep possesion) you have fun with that. Common sense states a young receiver who has playmaking potential is the better option, especially since Braylon is only on a one year deal.
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Posted 07 April 2010 - 08:30 PM

[quote name='Clemens11' date='07 April 2010 - 09:15 PM' timestamp='1270689347' post='299651']
Common sense states a young receiver who has playmaking potential is the better option, especially since Braylon is only on a one year deal.
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That's not common sense, that's opinion.
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Posted 07 April 2010 - 09:36 PM

[quote name='Jetsman05' date='07 April 2010 - 09:30 PM' timestamp='1270690253' post='299652']
That's not common sense, that's opinion.
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if its not common sense then it should be. Which would you rather go into a horse race with? An old horse who has a history of throwing his jockey off? or a young stud?
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Posted 07 April 2010 - 09:37 PM

[quote name='Clemens11' date='07 April 2010 - 10:36 PM' timestamp='1270694191' post='299657']
if its not common sense then it should be. Which would you rather go into a horse race with? An old horse who has a history of throwing his jockey off? or a young stud?
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I didn't take any sides.

Coles is on his last legs.

We don't know how the rookie will pan out.

All I'm saying is there is two sides to the argument. It's not common sense, its pure opinion. You have yours, smeds has his.
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Posted 07 April 2010 - 09:43 PM

[quote name='Jetsman05' date='07 April 2010 - 10:37 PM' timestamp='1270694254' post='299658']
I didn't take any sides.

Coles is on his last legs.

We don't know how the rookie will pan out.

All I'm saying is there is two sides to the argument. It's not common sense, its pure opinion. You have yours, smeds has his.
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didnt say you were taking sides i simply posed a question to you.

And breaking down common sense in its simplest meaning, the most common opinion in this thread is to NOT take back coles, therefore it is common sense. If it was just me vs. smeds id see you as having a point, but thats not the case.
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Posted 07 April 2010 - 09:51 PM

[quote name='Clemens11' date='07 April 2010 - 10:43 PM' timestamp='1270694597' post='299660']
didnt say you were taking sides i simply posed a question to you.

And breaking down common sense in its simplest meaning, the most common opinion in this thread is to NOT take back coles, therefore it is common sense. If it was just me vs. smeds id see you as having a point, but thats not the case.
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There is plenty of people who think taking back Coles and having another vet around (regardless of drafting a rookie or not) would be a good thing for this team.

Well all know the people on this board don't give a shit for Coles. It's always been that way.

Believe it or not, there are other Jets fans out there.
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Posted 07 April 2010 - 09:59 PM

[quote name='Jetsman05' date='07 April 2010 - 10:51 PM' timestamp='1270695060' post='299661']
There is plenty of people who think taking back Coles and having another vet around (regardless of drafting a rookie or not) would be a good thing for this team.

Well all know the people on this board don't give a shit for Coles. It's always been that way.

Believe it or not, there are other Jets fans out there.
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yea i know there are other jet fans out there [img]http://nyjetsfan.com/forum2/public/style_emoticons/default/grimace-32.png[/img] kinda obvious, however if you wanna take it that way, we can go into all the football minds and what they think of the deal.

straight up Coles is not what we need and is a waste of space on the roster. I dont know how many different ways to say it. If your sentimental about the guy, put on his jersey and watch old highlights, cus thats as good as its gunna get.
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Posted 07 April 2010 - 10:07 PM

[quote name='Clemens11' date='07 April 2010 - 10:59 PM' timestamp='1270695540' post='299663']
yea i know there are other jet fans out there [img]http://nyjetsfan.com/forum2/public/style_emoticons/default/grimace-32.png[/img] kinda obvious, however if you wanna take it that way, we can go into all the football minds and what they think of the deal.

straight up Coles is not what we need and is a waste of space on the roster. I dont know how many different ways to say it. If your sentimental about the guy, put on his jersey and watch old highlights, cus thats as good as its gunna get.
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I never said I wanted him. I actually don't want him, but I can definitely see where smeds (and others) come from when they say we could welcome him back.
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Posted 07 April 2010 - 10:25 PM

If we make the "big FA splash" with Taylor, my guy I want at #29 is probably Thomas from GT. But I like some other guys too that I wouldn't mind like Jared Odrick if hes there.
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Posted 07 April 2010 - 10:41 PM

i feel an arm wrestling competition brewing in this bitch
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Posted 08 April 2010 - 11:42 AM

[quote name='Jetsman05' date='07 April 2010 - 09:51 PM' timestamp='1270695060' post='299661']

Believe it or not, there are other Jets fans out there.
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Bwah!??! YOU LIE!!!!


If Gaytay is the big FA splash, then I propose a trade up for Earl Thomas. Oh, thought just crossed my mind. Thoughts on Myron Rolle? The year off from football to become a Rhodes Scholar has apparently dropped his stock. Would anybody object if we were able to draft him? Then, our most pressing needs apparently seem to be fixed short term. Taylor helps the pass rush, Myron Rolle learns behind Pool, we draft either a lineman or a receiver in the first. Wham, Bam, thank you Madden10.
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Posted 08 April 2010 - 11:58 AM

[quote name='Rhodes1991' date='08 April 2010 - 05:42 PM' timestamp='1270744949' post='299675']
Bwah!??! YOU LIE!!!!


If Gaytay is the big FA splash, then I propose a trade up for Earl Thomas. Oh, thought just crossed my mind. Thoughts on Myron Rolle? The year off from football to become a Rhodes Scholar has apparently dropped his stock. Would anybody object if we were able to draft him? Then, our most pressing needs apparently seem to be fixed short term. Taylor helps the pass rush, Myron Rolle learns behind Pool, we draft either a lineman or a receiver in the first. Wham, Bam, thank you Madden10.
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 03:11 PM

Ain't that the truth:

Holmes, Taylor on the fence.

Will MT move up in the draft to get a stud??

Everyone is going to have to their best to get air time on Hard Knocks.
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 09:26 PM

I don't pretend to know the players in the draft but one thing is for sure Tanny can take any player he wants other than a team that has no choice but to take the #1 player.
Tanny will make it a throw down.
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