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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (23 September 2016 - 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 07:40 AM

Nick Mangold
Darrelle Revis
David Harris
Santonio Holmes
Braylon Edwards
Antonio Cromartie


All FA after this seasons, except Revis has 2 buy back years. I hope we get Mangold a long term deal before the season so we don't have to worry about that. I want Harris getting an extension as well.

Then with Holmes and Edwards, we will probably only keep 1 long term.
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 09:46 AM

Nick Mangold - Will be given an extension by preseason.

Darrelle Revis - Will be extended by training camp.

Santonio Holmes - Likely given a 2 yr extension front loaded prior to stepping on the field in a Jets uniform.

Braylon Edwards - Potential casualty but will likely be extended. Any extension will be based purely on his recurring cases of the drops.

Antonio Cromartie - Not sure what happens with him but he'll surely get extended for 3 yrs.

David Harris - Front loaded extension in his future although with our history, I can see Harris being one of the last given an extension.
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 09:58 AM

[quote name='FlyHiJets' date='12 April 2010 - 10:46 AM' timestamp='1271083607' post='299960']
Nick Mangold - Will be given an extension by preseason.

Darrelle Revis - Will be extended by training camp.

Santonio Holmes - Likely given a 2 yr extension front loaded prior to stepping on the field in a Jets uniform.

Braylon Edwards - Potential casualty but will likely be extended. Any extension will be based purely on his recurring cases of the drops.

Antonio Cromartie - Not sure what happens with him but he'll surely get extended for 3 yrs.

David Harris - Front loaded extension in his future although with our history, I can see Harris being one of the last given an extension.
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I don't think the Jets can afford all that...

Mangold and Revis will get paid top money for their position...possibly getting the richest contracts for their respective position ever.

I think Holmes, Edwards, and Cromartie don't get anything until they prove their worth on the field this year...you would think Edwards and Holmes are fighting for one contract.
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 10:40 AM

[quote name='HurricaneJet32' date='12 April 2010 - 09:58 AM' timestamp='1271084318' post='299965']
I don't think the Jets can afford all that...

Mangold and Revis will get paid top money for their position...possibly getting the richest contracts for their respective position ever.

I think Holmes, Edwards, and Cromartie don't get anything until they prove their worth on the field this year...you would think Edwards and Holmes are fighting for one contract.
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I agree. Plus there is Leon unless I'm missing something...

I think the priorities are Mangold, Revis (less immediate problem because of current contract), Harris, the WRs (only one contract goes out unless something changes), Cromartie (no reason to lock him up until he proves his worth).
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 11:49 AM

Leon is on the outs, don't see him having a long term future with the team.
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 12:16 PM

[quote name='HurricaneJet32' date='12 April 2010 - 10:58 AM' timestamp='1271084318' post='299965']
I don't think the Jets can afford all that...

Mangold and Revis will get paid top money for their position...possibly getting the richest contracts for their respective position ever.

I think Holmes, Edwards, and Cromartie don't get anything until they prove their worth on the field this year...you would think Edwards and Holmes are fighting for one contract.
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Totally agree here. Let's also not forget that Brick's contract is going to need to be extended soon. I don't imagine Leon will be here more than another year.

At least the Jets should have the decision between Holmes and Braylon for who to keep after the year. That's better than BE or nothing.
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 12:17 PM

I'd say the Jets are probably pushing to trade Leon.
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 12:21 PM

[quote name='Jetsman05' date='12 April 2010 - 01:17 PM' timestamp='1271092647' post='299985']
I'd say the Jets are probably pushing to trade Leon.
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Possibly a draft day trade for a pick or something?
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 12:25 PM

As usual, the Jets have filled a lot of holes in free agency. FS, WR, CB are no longer pressing needs, nor will be OLB if they sign Jason Taylor which looks very possible at this point. All signs are pointing to them trading up in the draft yet again. God knows who it will be. Perhaps Odrick?
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 12:36 PM

I don't like the idea of trading up for Odrick. Our early picks are going to be on OL, DL, or CB. Those are the areas of need, assuming we sign Jason Taylor.
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 12:40 PM

At this point, you know Tannenbaum thinks the Jets are one player away from the big one. If they don't re-sign Douglas, there's an obvious hole at DE. Tannenbaum won't go into the season like that. It also really seems like Odrick is the perfect Rex guy.
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 01:19 PM

[quote name='Chaos' date='12 April 2010 - 01:21 PM' timestamp='1271092911' post='299988']
Possibly a draft day trade for a pick or something?
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Wouldn't surprise me to see it.

I don't like the idea of trading up for Odrick, either. I'd wait for someone to fall to us, that's the benefit of taking BPA.(I hope it's Odrick)
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 01:24 PM

I like Odrick and wouldn't mind getting him, just I don't see him as a player you trade up for. There are some other DE guys I would be happy with like Tyson Alualu.


With Holmes, he would be a risky player to sign long term. Hes being suspended 4 games because of drugs, if he is caught again he is suspended for a season right? If Edwards has a good year he would be more ideal to sign long term since he isn't as likely to be suspended for a season.
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 01:35 PM

[quote name='Jetsfan0099' date='12 April 2010 - 02:24 PM' timestamp='1271096643' post='300000']
I like Odrick and wouldn't mind getting him, just I don't see him as a player you trade up for. There are some other DE guys I would be happy with like Tyson Alualu.


With Holmes, he would be a risky player to sign long term. Hes being suspended 4 games because of drugs, if he is caught again he is suspended for a season right? If Edwards has a good year he would be more ideal to sign long term since he isn't as likely to be suspended for a season.
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Well, Edwards is still a possible suspension to start next year, but I agree on Holmes. He's had the drug problem all the way back in Ohio State. He can't continue to get busted or he will be suspended for a reason and that's just killer.

They will both be battling each other on and off the field for the contract, so that should be motivation and I would be more then happy with either of them (at the top of their game) for a long time here with the Jets.

As for Odrick, I'd love him and I'd move maybe a couple spots up to get him but nothing too drastic. As you said, Alualu is solid, as well as people like Lamar Houston, Cam Thomas and Arthur Jones.

I think we sit on our pick, and just take the BPA on defense... be it Odrick, Hughes, or whoever.
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 01:39 PM

Edwards suspension will be a game if anything, he has shown to really want to play his career on the Jets. All he has to do is be more consistent with the hands and he can be real good. When you have a guy like Holmes that has always had drug issues it is risky which is why the Steelers wanted to get rid of him. I like his play on the field though. Hopefully the Jets can win the SB this year and make it a memorable season.
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 01:59 PM

I think a trade up is very possible now. We took care of draft day concerns with Cromartie being signed and we took a hold of another void with L.T. Everyone thought we needed to WR. We signed Holmes. Defense is what were taking with the 1st round pick. OLB or DE.

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Posted 12 April 2010 - 02:05 PM

[quote name='S-Dubb' date='12 April 2010 - 02:59 PM' timestamp='1271098776' post='300006']
I think a trade up is very possible now. We took care of draft day concerns with Cromartie being signed and we took a hold of another void with L.T. Everyone thought we needed to WR. We signed Holmes. Defense is what were taking with the 1st round pick. OLB or DE.

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I think its more likely we could even more out of the 1st round instead of a move up. Money is a problem right now.
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 03:01 PM

So...All this Great news about a great WR Corps.....But WHAT IF......Edwards AND Holmes being suspended to start the season? What do we do then? I couldnt name the next reciever, outside of Cotch?
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 06:13 PM

were gonna lose some players. period. MT needs to extend some players quickly in this uncapped year and take advantage of it before its capped and we can't afford it
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 06:29 PM

Yes money is an issue, but here is what I do.

This is what I do this year:
- Find a trade for Gholston - I might even give up a pick to unload him especially if you can get someone to take the money.
- Find a trade for Leon - Maybe a 3 because he is a 2 tender.
- Do we dare deal Jenkins? I'd entertain it if you can bring Douglas back and you still have Pouha and Devito who are lunchpail guys who played great in 09.
- Max out Mangold
- Max out Revis

Next year I:
- Let LT retire
- Let Taylor retire
- Let Brunell retire
- Cut Fanaca
- Sign two of Cromartie Dbrick and Harris then get a cheaper replacement for the other
- One of the WR gets a contract not both.

BAM we are in a great position for a long time.
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