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Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:37 PM) Corey Ivy CB
36 Jim Leonhard SS/PR
43 Haruki Nakamura FS
25 Evan Oglesby CB
20 Ed Reed FS
22 Samari Rolle CB
39 Daren Stone FS
41 Frank Walker CB
31 Fabian Washington in 2008
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (20 August 2014 - 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The JETS are #6 in the Forbes List for most franchise value
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The Buffalo Jills are #31 and the Miami Dolphags are #16 respectively
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 07:00 PM) The JETS are worth $1.8 billion
jet-man Icon : (20 August 2014 - 10:03 PM) that's less than the clippers
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:07 PM) I'm very excited with the amount of preseason touchdowns the Jets have
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:21 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:22 PM) Calvin Pryor and Darrin Walls will start tomorrow
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:52 PM) The SIMPSONS MARATHON has been on for almost 12 hours...
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:57 PM) Sanchez looks so much more confident and better in Chip's offense than he did with us
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:50 PM) EVERY SIMPSONS EVER!!!!!
2JBallar01 Icon : (Today, 07:10 AM) Sanchez is looking good for the eagles. Crazy how a good offense and the right system can make you look so much better. When you're put into a situatuon to succeed, magic happens. Happy for Sanchez, i think he needed a change just as much as the Jets did.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 08:02 AM) Preseason doesn't matter at all
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 11:10 AM) anyone have a stream for the preseaosn agme by chance?
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Posted 12 September 2005 - 10:36 AM

This thread is just for smack talk. If you want to have an intelligent conversation and or debate, stop by the Jets talk forums.

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Posted 12 September 2005 - 01:40 PM

Why the JEts will win.

1. First Home game!

2. Revenge taken out on the Phins for this week's embarassment.

3. Dolphins only won this week because they were at home in a huge crowd against a really bad Broncos team. The phins do still have a good run D but we should figure out this team's D by quarter number 2. Garunteed Martin gets 150 yards.

4. Pennington should pick apart the Phins secondary which isn't the greatest. As long as we catch and we fend off the pass rush we should be ok.

5. Vilma will shut up and play this week. His sophmore slump will end after only one game (if you can call it a slump).

6. Abe for the entire game.

7. Saban is overrated.
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Posted 12 September 2005 - 06:02 PM

You thought Vilma played bad against the Chiefs? He played better than any defender on the field and had 1 or 2 TFLs. If there were any setbacks its because Reed couldn't force a downblock on any of the linemen on the KC. And how do you figure Saban is overrated? Because he led his team to a blow out of a playoff team? And that Denver team is NOT bad, this team made the playoffs in the AFC last year.
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Posted 12 September 2005 - 06:05 PM

You know, the last time the Jets had their home opener against the Dolphins in week 2 after coming off a loss was in 2003. The Jets lost bullshit.gif
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Posted 13 September 2005 - 01:12 PM

QUOTE (JetsOhFive @ Sep 12 2005, 06:40 PM)
You know, the last time the Jets had their home opener against the Dolphins in week 2 after coming off a loss was in 2003.  The Jets lost bullshit.gif




I hope it will be a good game. I respect the success the jets have had under Herm and feel they will play way better this week. However being a fin fan i can only hope we pull one out vs you guys good luck! baghead.gif
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Posted 13 September 2005 - 01:23 PM

good luck to u too. i think your overmatched though. you have some talent but not quite enough
Get it done MT
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Posted 13 September 2005 - 02:35 PM

QUOTE (JetsOhFive @ Sep 12 2005, 06:40 PM)
You know, the last time the Jets had their home opener against the Dolphins in week 2 after coming off a loss was in 2003.  The Jets lost bullshit.gif


We lost to the Redskins in 03.
WE lost to the Chiefs Sunday.

Great. 2 opening losses against indian mascot teams. baghead.gif

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Posted 13 September 2005 - 02:38 PM

i remember the skins one. john hall kicked the game winning FG for them as his frist game as a skin
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Posted 13 September 2005 - 04:51 PM

I just hope that the fans can get them into it, and get us a win. I'm not too sure who will win, but whoever it is, they'll win big

28-10 will be the final, in either direction


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Posted 14 September 2005 - 02:18 AM

I think it will be a close game as it usually is. Miami was not as bad as their record indicated last year.



QUOTE (HermIsMyHero @ Sep 12 2005, 02:15 PM)
Why the JEts will win.

1. First Home game!

2. Revenge taken out on the Phins for this week's embarassment.

3. Dolphins only won this week because they were at home in a huge crowd against a really bad Broncos team. The phins do still have a good run D but we should figure out this team's D by quarter number 2. Garunteed Martin gets 150 yards.

4. Pennington should pick apart the Phins secondary which isn't the greatest. As long as we catch and we fend off the pass rush we should be ok.

5. Vilma will shut up and play this week. His sophmore slump will end after only one game (if you can call it a slump).

6. Abe for the entire game.

7. Saban is overrated.


OK first off the Broncos are not a really bad team. Miami made them look bad. For a few reasons. It was the first home game of the season. It was Nick Sabans coaching debut and the team had something to prove.

Second the D that Miami is running now is a mirror of NE's D with some better talent. And NY hasnt been able to "figure it out" in the past 5 years, how do you expect them to figure it out in a half? How many yards did Martin rush for against the Chiefs? Miami has a much better D then the Chiefs.

Pennington isnt going to be picking anything but his nose. He couldnt even hold on to the ball, let alone pick Miami apart. Chad's Rotator Cuff surgery is not healed yet, I wouldnt expect him to be anything close to what he was until mid season.

Kevin Mawae couldnt snap the ball in the same zip code as the QB last week. You guys better pray he doesnt do that again. If he does Jason Taylor might be scoring TDs all day.

Yeahhhhh. OK. How is Vilma's lip feeling?

Now the most asinine part of your post. Nick Saban overrated. You have to be kidding me. Talk about making an uneducated homer statement.

Nick Saban has NEVER had a losing season as a head coach. He has won EVERYWHERE he has been. If you had ever actually seen him in practices coaching you wouldnt make a statement like that regardless of what team you root for.

And lastly. Herm Edwards reminded me of some one last week.




Good luck guys. I think you are going to need it much more then the Fins are.



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Posted 14 September 2005 - 02:40 AM

First off the Bronco's aren't really bad but their nothing to shake a stick at either.

Miami's D compared to N.E's D with better talent. Man take off those aqua goggles. You are definetly speaking from a fans perspective then someone who is thinking logically.

Talking about Mawae is just plain wrong and all this time I'm thinking that you are a football purist. You can honestly say the MR. Pro Bowl will have another game like that as long as he play's???. C'mon on now

Things happen it's football and besides it's week 1. If i were you I'd be worried. You guys get one win and your thinking big. Get your head out your ass.

Our guys have heart and we hate losing thats why we fought we strive to be the best and when we hit a wall the tempers flare. Oh don't worry you'll be seeing 51 all over the field. Especially that OLine will give Vilma all the room he needs to make your life a living hell.

Saban is a great coach I'll admit it. he's never "had" a losing season untill now. This is the NFL slappy not College.

I got to hand it to ya , your trying.
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Posted 14 September 2005 - 11:10 AM

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All you need is the Wanny pornstache and you may have similar success are the fins in 04 :-)
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Posted 14 September 2005 - 02:37 PM

QUOTE (KenInBoca @ Sep 14 2005, 02:53 AM)
I think it will be a close game as it usually is. Miami was not as bad as their record indicated last year.
OK first off the Broncos are not a really bad team. Miami made them look bad. For a few reasons. It was the first home game of the season. It was Nick Sabans coaching debut and the team had something to prove.

Second the D that Miami is running now is a mirror of NE's D with some better talent.  And NY hasnt been able to "figure it out" in the past 5 years, how do you expect them to figure it out in a half? How many yards did Martin rush for against the Chiefs? Miami has a much better D then the Chiefs.

Pennington isnt going to be picking anything but his nose. He couldnt even hold on to the ball, let alone pick Miami apart. Chad's Rotator Cuff surgery is not healed yet, I wouldnt expect him to be anything close to what he was until mid season.

Kevin Mawae couldnt snap the ball in the same zip code as the QB last week. You guys better pray he doesnt do that again. If he does Jason Taylor might be scoring TDs all day.

Yeahhhhh. OK. How is Vilma's lip feeling?

Now the most asinine part of your post. Nick Saban overrated. You have to be kidding me. Talk about making an uneducated homer statement.

Nick Saban has NEVER had a losing season as a head coach. He has won EVERYWHERE he has been. If you had ever actually seen him in practices coaching you wouldnt make a statement like that regardless of what team you root for.

And lastly. Herm Edwards reminded me of some one last week.


Good luck guys. I think you are going to need it much more then the Fins are.


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Posted 14 September 2005 - 03:30 PM

QUOTE (silversword55 @ Sep 14 2005, 03:12 PM)

I concur.
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Posted 14 September 2005 - 10:16 PM

I hate the Dolphins, I hate their fans, I hate everything about them except for the city they play in (I hope to move there 1 day). There isn't 1 team I hate more than the Miami Dolphins, not even the Patriots. As you have noticed I am still alive after the Patriots have won 3 Superbowls. If it was the Dolphins that won 3 Superbowls I probably would have jumped of a building by now. This is a must win not only for the Jets, but for me. The all time series against the Dolphins is 40 wins, 38 losses, 1 tie. Keep that win column rising Gang Green!
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Posted 15 September 2005 - 07:54 PM

QUOTE (sdubb6 @ Sep 14 2005, 04:15 AM)
Our guys have heart and we hate losing thats why we fought we strive to be the best and when we hit a wall  the tempers flare.


I'm pretty sure this is true with all teams around the NFL it isn't some special skill the Jets have.


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Oh don't worry you'll be seeing 51 all over the field. Especially that OLine will give Vilma all the room he needs to make your life a living hell.


IMO without Ferguson up front Vilma will struggle a lot this year, he's already undersized to begin with. It was like last year when the Fins lost Tim Bowen and Larry Chester...the OLmen from the opposing team were getting to the next level without a problem and Zach was knocked on his ass the whole year. I'm pretty sure the scuffle between Vilma and Reed was cuz Vilma gave Reed some shit about the OLmen getting to him.
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Posted 15 September 2005 - 08:11 PM

QUOTE (GIAFFâ„¢ @ Sep 15 2005, 08:29 PM)
IMO without Ferguson up front Vilma will struggle a lot this year, he's already undersized to begin with. It was like last year when the Fins lost Tim Bowen and Larry Chester...the OLmen from the opposing team were getting to the next level without a problem and Zach was knocked on his ass the whole year. I'm pretty sure the scuffle between Vilma and Reed was cuz Vilma gave Reed some shit about the OLmen getting to him.

Vilma actually played relatively well against a pretty good KC line. Who knows what he can do when he's playing Miami's shitty ass line.
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Posted 15 September 2005 - 08:17 PM

Well all I remember is when KC was on the 6 or 7 yard line and they ran the HB off LT, Vilma just gets blown out of the play and pushed out of bounds and he just stands there and watches Holmes reach for the goal line though his knee was down. They even pointed this play out on Monday Night Countdown, while the hell was Vilma just standing there.
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Posted 15 September 2005 - 08:25 PM

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SO DOES THIS


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