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ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
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Posted 03 June 2010 - 12:43 PM

FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- Jets cornerback Darrelle Revis is holding out from Thursday's offseason training activity while in talks with the team to rework his contract, according to a league source.

The All-Pro cornerback, 24, was at Florham Park workouts Wednesday.


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Posted 03 June 2010 - 01:46 PM

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Darrelle Revis-DB- Jets Jun. 3 - 2:16 pm et

Updating a previous item, Darrelle Revis was reportedly "furious" with the Jets' initial contract offer.
Revis is skipping practices because he was "thoroughly insulted" by an offer that was "pitifully low" compared to his expectations and accomplishments. Revis is believed to be seeking a deal in excess of Nnamdi Asomugha's contract, so the Jets can thank Al Davis for setting the bar ludicrously high. Revis' presence at training camp is now in doubt, and the New York Post's Bart Hubbuch says the situation is "getting ugly fast."
Source: Bart Hubbuch on Twitter [/quote]

I hope this turns out to be media hype - the last thing we want is Revis getting pissed off and not showing up. I also hope the Jets don't try to be cheap with him and ruin another relationship with a guy as valuable as Revis. We need him in OTAs and camp helping make Kyle Wilson better.
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Posted 03 June 2010 - 02:48 PM

I'd like to see more quotes in there before I get too upset.
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Posted 03 June 2010 - 02:51 PM

[quote name='Jetsman05' date='03 June 2010 - 03:48 PM' timestamp='1275594526' post='303567']
I'd like to see more quotes in there before I get too upset.
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Yeah, can't believe this. There was that 20 mil report that was bogus too, so I guess we'll see.
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Posted 03 June 2010 - 02:52 PM

This is no big deal. Tannenbaum (our GM) said Revis will retire a Jet and he will be the highest paid DB in the league, it will happen.

My take on it is, Tanny probably cracked out a deal that Revis and his agent didn't approve. Revis has been at OTA's thus far until now so something happened. He probably turned down the offer for more money.

Like I said. I'm not worried. Our GM knows what Revis is worth and he'll get every penny. The best DB in the NFL should be paid like it.

A lot of Jets players are saw what happened to Leon Washington. Leon was "a good ole boy".. he didn't hold out or anything and was a ultimate team guy. However, if lue of receiving his deal he had a devastating leg injury. Both Fibula and Tibia were fractured. It destroyed his chances at getting a new deal. If he had held out and been a pain in the a*s he probably would have gotten a contract that satisfied him. A lot of Jets players (players in general) fear this.

Revis (without a deal) will be playing for a million dollars this year. However, he signed his rookie deal., HONER IT!... but of course, it doesn't work like that. So from a business standpoint he's just doing his due diligence, to get paid before September. Can't really blame him.

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Posted 03 June 2010 - 03:00 PM

[quote name='Goodfellaz' date='03 June 2010 - 01:46 PM' timestamp='1275590800' post='303566']
I hope this turns out to be media hype - the last thing we want is Revis getting pissed off and not showing up. I also hope the Jets don't try to be cheap with him and ruin another relationship with a guy as valuable as Revis. We need him in OTAs and camp helping make Kyle Wilson better.
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Say it aint so! Not Revis. The jets better fix this. Damn Al Davis for that contract. I would spell the guys name but I dont have it in front of me: you all know who I am referring to anyways. When will it end? Are we going to watch games on TV with 10,000 fans in the stadium because the average fan can't afford to go? Revis had the best season I have ever witnessed by a CB or a Jet for that matter. He can't expect an 8 year 150 million dollar deal though. I would rather trade him to a shitty team for 2 firsts and something else before giving him 17 million a year. I dont know what his demands are but that might be close
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Posted 03 June 2010 - 03:11 PM

I wonder what the offer was. I

I'm with Revis on this though. After what happened to Leon, no one wants to play "company man" right now.

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Posted 03 June 2010 - 03:19 PM

How could anyone be "with Revis."

The more he holds out, the more I'm "not with Revis."

No player is bigger then the team. He's under contract, get out there to OTA's, Revis.
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Posted 03 June 2010 - 03:48 PM

Agree 100%...he's under contract and he needs to abide by it. There was a long string on this same topic weeks ago and people were all over me about my opinion

[quote name='Jetsman05' date='03 June 2010 - 04:19 PM' timestamp='1275596365' post='303577']
How could anyone be "with Revis."

The more he holds out, the more I'm "not with Revis."

No player is bigger then the team. He's under contract, get out there to OTA's, Revis.
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Posted 03 June 2010 - 03:54 PM

Does Revis really have to be the top paid player in the history of that position that would be just to stupid especially for a smart guy like Revis.
this is so not an issue .
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Posted 03 June 2010 - 04:04 PM

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Heh...
"And He Leadeth Them, To Suckage"...
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Posted 03 June 2010 - 04:17 PM

[quote name='stu23' date='03 June 2010 - 04:48 PM' timestamp='1275598105' post='303579']
Agree 100%...he's under contract and he needs to abide by it. There was a long string on this same topic weeks ago and people were all over me about my opinion


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I'm prepared to hear shit for it, but it's always been my view.
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Posted 03 June 2010 - 04:26 PM

I feel Revis deserves a new contract, for him to be making significantly less than the ghost is a travesty. However he is under contract for a few more years, its not like this is his last year, and should not hold out of anything. If it was the last year in the contract then it may be different, but this is supposed to be our year, don't ruin it man. We need him to win...need him to win.
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Posted 03 June 2010 - 04:41 PM

[quote name='FroNTROw50yRdLyNe' date='03 June 2010 - 05:26 PM' timestamp='1275600414' post='303586']
I feel Revis deserves a new contract, for him to be making significantly less than the ghost is a travesty. However he is under contract for a few more years, its not like this is his last year, and should not hold out of anything. If it was the last year in the contract then it may be different, but this is supposed to be our year, don't ruin it man. We need him to win...need him to win.
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Everyone here agrees with the notion that he NEEDS a raise and a new contract, but to hold out, which hurts the team pisses me off. Revis isn't bigger then the New York Jets. Mangold isn't bigger then the New York Jets.
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Posted 03 June 2010 - 04:46 PM

[quote name='Jetsman05' date='03 June 2010 - 04:19 PM' timestamp='1275596365' post='303577']
How could anyone be "with Revis."

The more he holds out, the more I'm "not with Revis."

No player is bigger then the team. He's under contract, get out there to OTA's, Revis.
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Dude, Blah,Blah,blah

Holding out is all these players have and like I said look what happened to Leon. The best corner in the league will be playing for 1 million this year.

I understand all this " he signed the contract, honer it" blah blah blah, however it doesn't work like that. It never does so why expect it to be like something it isn't?

Revis needs to hold firm and get something he's happy with so he can continue with business. If dude plays out this season and he gets hurt really bad he's f*cked. Pay the man the money.

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Posted 03 June 2010 - 04:56 PM

[quote name='S-Dubb' date='03 June 2010 - 05:46 PM' timestamp='1275601581' post='303588']
Dude, Blah,Blah,blah

Holding out is all these players have and like I said look what happened to Leon. The best corner in the league will be playing for 1 million this year.

I understand all this " he signed the contract, honer it" blah blah blah, however it doesn't work like that. It never does so why expect it to be like something it isn't?

Revis needs to hold firm and get something he's happy with so he can continue with business. If dude plays out this season and he gets hurt really bad he's f*cked. Pay the man the money.

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He's under contact, and he's playing for a team and an organization, not himself. Him being away from OTA's is hurting Wilson's growth, our receivers competition and the rest of the team's ability to play together. That's how I look at it. If he is true to his word and "believes the Jets will get a deal done" then he should be doing his thing with our team. Period.

There's different stances on it, don't give me the blah blah blah bullshit because isn't like that. He isn't bigger then the Jets. Get your ass in camp, and let the other shit play out.
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Posted 03 June 2010 - 04:58 PM


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[b][size="4"][url="http://www.thejetsblog.com/2010/06/03/revis-furious-with-contract-offer/"]Revis “Furious” with contract offer[/url][/size][/b]
[size="4"]Posted on June 3rd, 2010 by [b]droseatwork[/b][/size] [size="4"]According to [url="http://twitter.com/NYPost_Hubbuch"]Bart Hubbuch[/url] of the New York Post Revis is [url="http://twitter.com/NYPost_Hubbuch"]NOT HAPPY[/url] with the jets and making comparisons to the Baker and Kendall fiascos.[/size]

[indent][size="4"]“One more on Revis: He is accusing [url="http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Jets"]#Jets[/url] of deliberately leaking false report that he wants $20M/year to make him look like the bad guy.”[/size]

[size="4"]“Revis is telling friends that this compares to the Kendall, Baker, Coles and Leon situations in terms of the [url="http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Jets"]#Jets[/url] breaking promises.”[/size]

[size="4"]“Revis tells friends he feels the [url="http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Jets"]#Jets[/url] are breaking their promise by lowballing him so severely with their latest offer.”[/size]

[size="4"]Revis is furious with the [url="http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Jets"]#Jets[/url] but won’t say it because “his actions always speak louder than his words,” according to source.[/size]

[size="4"]I was told the [url="http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Jets"]#Jets[/url]‘ recent offer to Revis was pitifully low relative to his stature as arguably the league’s top corner.[/size]

[size="4"]Revis wants more than the [url="http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Raiders"]#Raiders[/url]‘ Nnamdi Asomugha, who is the [url="http://twitter.com/search?q=%23NFL"]#NFL[/url]’s highest-paid CB at $16.2M/year. The [url="http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Jets"]#Jets[/url]‘ offer was nowhere close.[/size]

[size="4"]A source close to Revis told me he’s skipping OTAs because he was thoroughly insulted by the [url="http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Jets"]#Jets[/url]‘ recent offer. This is getting ugly fast.[/size]

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Posted 03 June 2010 - 05:09 PM

[quote] If he is true to his word and "believes the Jets will get a deal done" then he should be doing his thing with our team.[/quote]

This means nothing. I remember Leon on SNY saying " I want to be here the Org wants me to be here, I love N.Y and want to be a Jet" 2 weeks later he was let go.

Tanny has an uncanny ability to low ball players when it comes time to renegotiate. He has a history of doing this. Kendall and Baker come to mind as Tanny's latest run ins. There is a history there.

When you sign your rookie contract it's generally predicated on draft status not your ability to play in the pros. It's how good you played in college to get the status. Once you get into the league and totally out perform your old contract (which he's going to need a new one soon anyways)... WHY go into another year getting as much as some long snappers do?

[quote]There's different stances on it, don't give me the blah blah blah bullshit because isn't like that.[/quote]

What sport you been watching the last 10 years?, it totally is like that. How many time a year do we hear about this?, come on 05, you know better. Honer a contract means nothing when the guy totally outperforms the one he signed as a baby.





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Posted 03 June 2010 - 05:12 PM

We see it completely different ways. I understand and see your view, I just don't agree with it. Never have, never will.
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Posted 03 June 2010 - 06:07 PM

lofl @ honor the contract

get paid
as soon as you can as fast as you can as much as you can

this isnt greed its business its how a capitalized country operates
if you disagree with this sentiment then that sounds more of a personal problem


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if the money is out there and someone is willing to sign the check then by all means you have the right to get it
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