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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (23 September 2016 - 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 12:30 PM

With July 1st coming at us, I think its time we start having some NBA FA talks here. Lets have some fun gentlemen.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 12:34 PM

NorthJersey.com Article

LeBron James eager to hear owner's pitch
Sunday, June 27, 2010
BY AL IANNAZZONE
The Record
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Russian multibillionaire Mikhail Prokhorov won’t only promise he can make LeBron James the global icon he craves to be, the Nets’ owner will promise James the world.

Prokhorov will be the first owner James sits down with when the free agent negotiating period begins at 12:01 a.m. Thursday.

James’ relationship with part-owner Jay-Z can’t be discounted, but the main reason James picked the NBA’s worst team to talk with first is because of Prokhorov, who has promised the Nets will win a championship within five years.

"LeBron really wants to meet Prokhorov and see what he’s about," a person close to the situation said. "He’s really interested in meeting him."

Prokhorov, Jay-Z retiring president Rod Thorn and coach Avery Johnson will fly the principal owner’s Gulfstream jet to Ohio for a sit-down with the King and his minions Thursday.

This will be more than a meet and greet, however. Prokhorov is expecting to fit James for a No. 6 Nets’ jersey.

The Bulls, Clippers, Knicks, Cavaliers and Heat will get their chance with James, but there are people who believe the Nets could have the best chance at landing James and perhaps Chris Bosh in what would amount to a package deal. Bosh might follow James to whatever city he decides to play

"He’s coming to New Jersey," someone close to James said.

The Bulls have been considered the favorites, but that prediction seems to change daily. The Nets have as good a shot as Chicago, multiple NBA sources said.

Unless there’s a sign-and-trade, James can get roughly $97 million over five years from teams other than Cleveland. The Cavaliers can give James six years and $127 million. To make up the difference, the Nets can offer many of the marketing and endorsement possibilities of New York.

James idolizes Jay-Z and wants to follow in the hip-hop mogul’s footsteps in developing a brand. With Prokhorov’s wealth and European ties, he could help James achieve three of his desires: to win a championship, become a global superstar and be a billionaire athlete.

"Prokhorov thinks global," said an NBA front-office executive. "He’s a worldwide guy.’’

"He’s going to bring a new enthusiasm to the franchise, a fresh new look," a prominent agent said. "He’s going to put the resources to do what it takes for them to be really competitive. I think there’s a real air of excitement about the Nets."

The Nets have $27 million to spend, enough to sign one max player and another for roughly $11 million. But Thorn continues to try and move salaries.

They potentially have eight draft picks in the next two years and other assets, including Thursday’s first-round choice Derrick Favors, that they would use in trades, to clear money or facilitate sign-and-trades. Thorn has referred to Favors as "a chip."

The Nets have put together many videos and presentations, as well as contingency plans if they can’t get James and/or Bosh. Memphis small forward Rudy Gay and Knicks power forward David Lee are fall-back options, along with Utah power forward Carlos Boozer and Suns big man Amar’e Stoudemire.

But the Nets are putting everything into James, who would make them a championship contender for years.

But now there are questions about how Thorn’s impending departure could impact free agency. Jerry Colangelo, Joe Dumars and Sam Presti have been mentioned as possible replacements for Thorn when he leaves July 15.

The organization wanted Thorn to stay, but is banking on Jay-Z’s appeal and Prokhorov’s intrigue as an international man of mystery with very deep pockets to attract superstars.

"I think all the agents and everybody associated with the game [are] well aware of Mr. Prokhorov," Thorn said. "That’s a real plus for us.

"There’s a curiosity. Every time he’s quoted, it’s always [he wants] to have a good team. I just think he’s a real positive."

Russian multibillionaire Mikhail Prokhorov won’t only promise he can make LeBron James the global icon he craves to be, the Nets’ owner will promise James the world.

Prokhorov will be the first owner James sits down with when the free agent negotiating period begins at 12:01 a.m. Thursday.

James’ relationship with part-owner Jay-Z can’t be discounted, but the main reason James picked the NBA’s worst team to talk with first is because of Prokhorov, who has promised the Nets will win a championship within five years.

"LeBron really wants to meet Prokhorov and see what he’s about," a person close to the situation said. "He’s really interested in meeting him."

Prokhorov, Jay-Z retiring president Rod Thorn and coach Avery Johnson will fly the principal owner’s Gulfstream jet to Ohio for a sit-down with the King and his minions Thursday.

This will be more than a meet and greet, however. Prokhorov is expecting to fit James for a No. 6 Nets’ jersey.

The Bulls, Clippers, Knicks, Cavaliers and Heat will get their chance with James, but there are people who believe the Nets could have the best chance at landing James and perhaps Chris Bosh in what would amount to a package deal. Bosh might follow James to whatever city he decides to play

"He’s coming to New Jersey," someone close to James said.

The Bulls have been considered the favorites, but that prediction seems to change daily. The Nets have as good a shot as Chicago, multiple NBA sources said.

Unless there’s a sign-and-trade, James can get roughly $97 million over five years from teams other than Cleveland. The Cavaliers can give James six years and $127 million. To make up the difference, the Nets can offer many of the marketing and endorsement possibilities of New York.

James idolizes Jay-Z and wants to follow in the hip-hop mogul’s footsteps in developing a brand. With Prokhorov’s wealth and European ties, he could help James achieve three of his desires: to win a championship, become a global superstar and be a billionaire athlete.

"Prokhorov thinks global," said an NBA front-office executive. "He’s a worldwide guy.’’

"He’s going to bring a new enthusiasm to the franchise, a fresh new look," a prominent agent said. "He’s going to put the resources to do what it takes for them to be really competitive. I think there’s a real air of excitement about the Nets."

The Nets have $27 million to spend, enough to sign one max player and another for roughly $11 million. But Thorn continues to try and move salaries.

They potentially have eight draft picks in the next two years and other assets, including Thursday’s first-round choice Derrick Favors, that they would use in trades, to clear money or facilitate sign-and-trades. Thorn has referred to Favors as "a chip."

The Nets have put together many videos and presentations, as well as contingency plans if they can’t get James and/or Bosh. Memphis small forward Rudy Gay and Knicks power forward David Lee are fall-back options, along with Utah power forward Carlos Boozer and Suns big man Amar’e Stoudemire.

But the Nets are putting everything into James, who would make them a championship contender for years.

But now there are questions about how Thorn’s impending departure could impact free agency. Jerry Colangelo, Joe Dumars and Sam Presti have been mentioned as possible replacements for Thorn when he leaves July 15.

The organization wanted Thorn to stay, but is banking on Jay-Z’s appeal and Prokhorov’s intrigue as an international man of mystery with very deep pockets to attract superstars.

"I think all the agents and everybody associated with the game [are] well aware of Mr. Prokhorov," Thorn said. "That’s a real plus for us.

"There’s a curiosity. Every time he’s quoted, it’s always [he wants] to have a good team. I just think he’s a real positive."
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 12:36 PM

Top NBA free agents

http://www.scoresrep...ents-of-2010-2/


However, LBJ would look better as Knick. Just sayin :grimace-32:

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Posted 27 June 2010 - 01:02 PM

Jameer and Vince to the Hornets for Paul.


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Posted 27 June 2010 - 01:34 PM

Come on LeBron!! Join the Nets or Knicks, I pick no favorites!


They are saying the Bulls have the best chance, they could add LeBron and get another top FA, but I am not sure if LBJ and Rose are a good fit together.

Miami would be sick with LBJ and Wade.

They are also saying there is pretty much no chance that LBJ returns to Cleveland.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 02:14 PM

The more I read and hear the more I believe one of these 3 things will happen.

1. LeBron to the Nets and Bosh follows
2. LeBron stays in Cleveland and Bosh goes to Miami
3. LeBron to the Bulls and Bosh follows

Im not gonna say he wont sign with the Knicks, but if he does, I will be shocked. (According to what I read and hear.)
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 02:14 PM

New York Times is reporting that an NBA executive told them that James and Bosh to the... BULLS is all but a done deal. Looks like the Knicks are gonna be left behind again.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 02:33 PM

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New York Times is reporting that an NBA executive told them that James and Bosh to the... BULLS is all but a done deal. Looks like the Knicks are gonna be left behind again.


There is gonna be alot of "done deals" from now until the 8th. When I see the ink dry, THATS when I will react. Other than that all of these publications are just fodder.

We are all going on hunches and speculations but the bottom-line is this, only these guys know the truth so we just have to sit and wait.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 02:34 PM

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Come on LeBron!! Join the Nets or Knicks, I pick no favorites!


They are saying the Bulls have the best chance, they could add LeBron and get another top FA, but I am not sure if LBJ and Rose are a good fit together.

Miami would be sick with LBJ and Wade.

They are also saying there is pretty much no chance that LBJ returns to Cleveland.


So you don't think Rose and LBJ can exist, but you're sure of LBJ and Wade being good together?

I still have him going back to Cleveland.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 03:05 PM

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SOURCE: Knicks going after Joe Johnson & Amare

While waiting for their opportunity to sell LeBron James on their team, the New York Knicks will be busy courting other stars that could potentially play with him at Madison Square Garden.

Their first such meeting will be with Joe Johnson, the Atlanta Hawks' All-Star guard, according to league sources.

When the clock strikes midnight ET in New York on July 1, the Knicks will be in Los Angeles meeting with Johnson, who will hold all of his meetings with clubs on the West Coast. After seeing Johnson at 9 p.m. Pacific time, team president Donnie Walsh and coach Mike D'Antoni will fly to Phoenix to meet with Amare Stoudemire.

Finally, the Knicks' brass will fly to northeast Ohio to woo James at 1 p.m. ET on Thursday.

While the Hawks hope to keep Johnson in Atlanta, several sources said the Knicks have emerged as his first choice. If they must lose him, the Hawks' preference is to work out a sign-and-trade deal with the Knicks.

But if no players on the Knicks' roster appeal to Atlanta, Johnson, believing he will make up the difference through endorsements and through buying stock shares in Madison Square Garden, is willing to take less money to play with the Knicks, according to sources.

Whatever the case, the Knicks could offer Johnson a maximum-salary contract worth approximately $96 million over five years, or a deal worth $125 million over six years through a sign-and-trade.

Johnson and Stoudemire emerged as star players while playing for D'Antoni in Phoenix, which is a large part of the reason both players are considering New York so strongly.

Johnson averaged double figures (16.7 ppg) for the first time in his career while playing for D'Antoni in the 2003-04 season. That same year, Stoudemire went from being a 13-point scorer to a 20-point scorer in D'Antoni's wide-open system.

While the Knicks' main target is James, the duo of Johnson and Stoudemire would be a nice consolation prize if James goes elsewhere. The team thinks James and Johnson would be a particularly strong tandem, and it believes that Johnson will talk to James about the benefits of joining forces in New York.

James' first meeting will be with the New Jersey Nets on the morning of July 1, followed by the Knicks and several other clubs over the next few days.

Chris Broussard covers the NBA for ESPN The Magazine.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 03:28 PM

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SOURCE: Knicks going after Joe Johnson & Amare

While waiting for their opportunity to sell LeBron James on their team, the New York Knicks will be busy courting other stars that could potentially play with him at Madison Square Garden.

Their first such meeting will be with Joe Johnson, the Atlanta Hawks' All-Star guard, according to league sources.

When the clock strikes midnight ET in New York on July 1, the Knicks will be in Los Angeles meeting with Johnson, who will hold all of his meetings with clubs on the West Coast. After seeing Johnson at 9 p.m. Pacific time, team president Donnie Walsh and coach Mike D'Antoni will fly to Phoenix to meet with Amare Stoudemire.

Finally, the Knicks' brass will fly to northeast Ohio to woo James at 1 p.m. ET on Thursday.

While the Hawks hope to keep Johnson in Atlanta, several sources said the Knicks have emerged as his first choice. If they must lose him, the Hawks' preference is to work out a sign-and-trade deal with the Knicks.

But if no players on the Knicks' roster appeal to Atlanta, Johnson, believing he will make up the difference through endorsements and through buying stock shares in Madison Square Garden, is willing to take less money to play with the Knicks, according to sources.

Whatever the case, the Knicks could offer Johnson a maximum-salary contract worth approximately $96 million over five years, or a deal worth $125 million over six years through a sign-and-trade.

Johnson and Stoudemire emerged as star players while playing for D'Antoni in Phoenix, which is a large part of the reason both players are considering New York so strongly.

Johnson averaged double figures (16.7 ppg) for the first time in his career while playing for D'Antoni in the 2003-04 season. That same year, Stoudemire went from being a 13-point scorer to a 20-point scorer in D'Antoni's wide-open system.

While the Knicks' main target is James, the duo of Johnson and Stoudemire would be a nice consolation prize if James goes elsewhere. The team thinks James and Johnson would be a particularly strong tandem, and it believes that Johnson will talk to James about the benefits of joining forces in New York.

James' first meeting will be with the New Jersey Nets on the morning of July 1, followed by the Knicks and several other clubs over the next few days.

Chris Broussard covers the NBA for ESPN The Magazine.



Make that happen!!! Joe Johnson is my dude!!

And we keep David Lee? that would be ideal.

However this source is BS. I get the feeling it's more hear-say due to the D'Antoni and Amare relations.

LBJ and Joe J would be a nasty tandem. I can't for things to unfold.

Bosh to Miami seems like a good fit for both, that would be insane. I can't see Bosh going to Chicago though.

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Posted 27 June 2010 - 03:43 PM

I think Bosh is going to follow LBJ, he already said he'll wait to see where LBJ signs before he signs.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 03:59 PM

If after all this, the Knicks end up with Amare and Joe J instead of LBJ/Wade/Bosh, it will kill basketball in NYC. KILL IT.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 04:00 PM

Whoever is questioning whether LBJ or Wade can coexist with Rose needs to get their head examined. I'm more concerned with Noah coexisting with Bosh.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 04:01 PM

Joe Johnson is a bum.

Amare is good but neither of them will have a point guard giving them the ball.

And yeah, I see Bosh piggy backing anyone (Wade or LBJ) he can. He knows he can't be the guy a team builds around.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 04:03 PM

You cannot win with Amare as your Center. You need your bigs to get stops and turn people away at the rim, Amare does none of that. He's good running the floor but you're basically playing 4 on 5 on the other end. Amare can only thrive in a SOS system.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 04:05 PM

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You cannot win with Amare as your Center. You need your bigs to get stops and turn people away at the rim, Amare does none of that. He's good running the floor but you're basically playing 4 on 5 on the other end. Amare can only thrive in a SOS system.


Agreed. Still wonder about him even in that D'Antoni system, without a good PG running the team.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 04:08 PM

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Agreed. Still wonder about him even in that D'Antoni system, without a good PG running the team.


I think at this point you have to wonder about D'Antoni himself. Was it the system or was it Steve Nash? Also, Donnie Walsh is out of his mind. Chicago traded No. 17 to Washington with Kirk Hinrich in return for the cap space to pursue LeBron and Bosh. Four months ago the Knicks traded Jordan Hill (last year's No. 8 pick), their 2012 No. 1, and agreed to swap No. 1s with Houston in 2011 so the Rockets would take Jared Jeffries off their hands (who makes less money than Hinrich, by the way) so they could also pursue LeBron and Bosh.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 04:12 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 27 June 2010 - 05:08 PM, said:

I think at this point you have to wonder about D'Antoni himself. Was it the system or was it Steve Nash? Also, Donnie Walsh is out of his mind. Chicago traded No. 17 to Washington with Kirk Hinrich in return for the cap space to pursue LeBron and Bosh. Four months ago the Knicks traded Jordan Hill (last year's No. 8 pick), their 2012 No. 1, and agreed to swap No. 1s with Houston in 2011 so the Rockets would take Jared Jeffries off their hands (who makes less money than Hinrich, by the way) so they could also pursue LeBron and Bosh.


Let it be known, I still believe in Jordan Hill. Loved him at Arizona.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 04:18 PM

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Let it be known, I still believe in Jordan Hill. Loved him at Arizona.


I can see him becoming a solid starter. What I'm saying is, take what the Bulls did and contrast it with what the Knicks did and it's painfully clear which is the more competent organization. LBJ doesn't just want a max deal, he wants to be on a team with a FO that can deliver him the supporting cast that Cleveland couldn't. The Knicks are basically all-in this summer but the Bulls, who have just as much cap space have a much better team already in place, plus have all their draft picks. If money isn't an issue, which team you think LBJ is going to rank higher?

My issue with LBJ is that I think he's a got a little bitch in him. He talks a good game and he's wildly talented BUT, these past two years he basically disappeared in the playoffs when it most counted. I think that in the back of his mind, he'd rather almost win in NY than play in MJ's shadow and probably never be half as successful. I'm of course speculating but I just don't see that crazy competitiveness in him that MJ had and that Kobe most likely has. LBJ is more like Shaq. Insanely talented, but he'd rather not wake up at 5 AM to shoot jump shots in July.
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