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Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:37 PM) Corey Ivy CB
36 Jim Leonhard SS/PR
43 Haruki Nakamura FS
25 Evan Oglesby CB
20 Ed Reed FS
22 Samari Rolle CB
39 Daren Stone FS
41 Frank Walker CB
31 Fabian Washington in 2008
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (20 August 2014 - 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The JETS are #6 in the Forbes List for most franchise value
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The Buffalo Jills are #31 and the Miami Dolphags are #16 respectively
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 07:00 PM) The JETS are worth $1.8 billion
jet-man Icon : (20 August 2014 - 10:03 PM) that's less than the clippers
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 01:07 PM) I'm very excited with the amount of preseason touchdowns the Jets have
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 03:21 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 07:22 PM) Calvin Pryor and Darrin Walls will start tomorrow
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 08:52 PM) The SIMPSONS MARATHON has been on for almost 12 hours...
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 08:57 PM) Sanchez looks so much more confident and better in Chip's offense than he did with us
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 09:50 PM) EVERY SIMPSONS EVER!!!!!
2JBallar01 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:10 AM) Sanchez is looking good for the eagles. Crazy how a good offense and the right system can make you look so much better. When you're put into a situatuon to succeed, magic happens. Happy for Sanchez, i think he needed a change just as much as the Jets did.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:02 AM) Preseason doesn't matter at all
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:10 AM) anyone have a stream for the preseaosn agme by chance?
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:06 PM) Don't read to much into Mark in the preseason. He usually looked good in the preseason even in a Jets uniform.. Big difference from regular season where the 1st string defense is playing 100%.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:09 PM) A lot of 1st stringers are just getting reps in and trying not to get injured. Its only the backups trying to keep or get a job playing hard every down. If preseason qb play meant anything then Matt Simms would be the starting qb of the Jets.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 12:00 AM) In Geno we trust
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***lebron James Watch Thread*** Among other NBA Free Agents

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Posted 27 June 2010 - 12:30 PM

With July 1st coming at us, I think its time we start having some NBA FA talks here. Lets have some fun gentlemen.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 12:34 PM

NorthJersey.com Article

LeBron James eager to hear owner's pitch
Sunday, June 27, 2010
BY AL IANNAZZONE
The Record
STAFF WRITER

Russian multibillionaire Mikhail Prokhorov won’t only promise he can make LeBron James the global icon he craves to be, the Nets’ owner will promise James the world.

Prokhorov will be the first owner James sits down with when the free agent negotiating period begins at 12:01 a.m. Thursday.

James’ relationship with part-owner Jay-Z can’t be discounted, but the main reason James picked the NBA’s worst team to talk with first is because of Prokhorov, who has promised the Nets will win a championship within five years.

"LeBron really wants to meet Prokhorov and see what he’s about," a person close to the situation said. "He’s really interested in meeting him."

Prokhorov, Jay-Z retiring president Rod Thorn and coach Avery Johnson will fly the principal owner’s Gulfstream jet to Ohio for a sit-down with the King and his minions Thursday.

This will be more than a meet and greet, however. Prokhorov is expecting to fit James for a No. 6 Nets’ jersey.

The Bulls, Clippers, Knicks, Cavaliers and Heat will get their chance with James, but there are people who believe the Nets could have the best chance at landing James and perhaps Chris Bosh in what would amount to a package deal. Bosh might follow James to whatever city he decides to play

"He’s coming to New Jersey," someone close to James said.

The Bulls have been considered the favorites, but that prediction seems to change daily. The Nets have as good a shot as Chicago, multiple NBA sources said.

Unless there’s a sign-and-trade, James can get roughly $97 million over five years from teams other than Cleveland. The Cavaliers can give James six years and $127 million. To make up the difference, the Nets can offer many of the marketing and endorsement possibilities of New York.

James idolizes Jay-Z and wants to follow in the hip-hop mogul’s footsteps in developing a brand. With Prokhorov’s wealth and European ties, he could help James achieve three of his desires: to win a championship, become a global superstar and be a billionaire athlete.

"Prokhorov thinks global," said an NBA front-office executive. "He’s a worldwide guy.’’

"He’s going to bring a new enthusiasm to the franchise, a fresh new look," a prominent agent said. "He’s going to put the resources to do what it takes for them to be really competitive. I think there’s a real air of excitement about the Nets."

The Nets have $27 million to spend, enough to sign one max player and another for roughly $11 million. But Thorn continues to try and move salaries.

They potentially have eight draft picks in the next two years and other assets, including Thursday’s first-round choice Derrick Favors, that they would use in trades, to clear money or facilitate sign-and-trades. Thorn has referred to Favors as "a chip."

The Nets have put together many videos and presentations, as well as contingency plans if they can’t get James and/or Bosh. Memphis small forward Rudy Gay and Knicks power forward David Lee are fall-back options, along with Utah power forward Carlos Boozer and Suns big man Amar’e Stoudemire.

But the Nets are putting everything into James, who would make them a championship contender for years.

But now there are questions about how Thorn’s impending departure could impact free agency. Jerry Colangelo, Joe Dumars and Sam Presti have been mentioned as possible replacements for Thorn when he leaves July 15.

The organization wanted Thorn to stay, but is banking on Jay-Z’s appeal and Prokhorov’s intrigue as an international man of mystery with very deep pockets to attract superstars.

"I think all the agents and everybody associated with the game [are] well aware of Mr. Prokhorov," Thorn said. "That’s a real plus for us.

"There’s a curiosity. Every time he’s quoted, it’s always [he wants] to have a good team. I just think he’s a real positive."

Russian multibillionaire Mikhail Prokhorov won’t only promise he can make LeBron James the global icon he craves to be, the Nets’ owner will promise James the world.

Prokhorov will be the first owner James sits down with when the free agent negotiating period begins at 12:01 a.m. Thursday.

James’ relationship with part-owner Jay-Z can’t be discounted, but the main reason James picked the NBA’s worst team to talk with first is because of Prokhorov, who has promised the Nets will win a championship within five years.

"LeBron really wants to meet Prokhorov and see what he’s about," a person close to the situation said. "He’s really interested in meeting him."

Prokhorov, Jay-Z retiring president Rod Thorn and coach Avery Johnson will fly the principal owner’s Gulfstream jet to Ohio for a sit-down with the King and his minions Thursday.

This will be more than a meet and greet, however. Prokhorov is expecting to fit James for a No. 6 Nets’ jersey.

The Bulls, Clippers, Knicks, Cavaliers and Heat will get their chance with James, but there are people who believe the Nets could have the best chance at landing James and perhaps Chris Bosh in what would amount to a package deal. Bosh might follow James to whatever city he decides to play

"He’s coming to New Jersey," someone close to James said.

The Bulls have been considered the favorites, but that prediction seems to change daily. The Nets have as good a shot as Chicago, multiple NBA sources said.

Unless there’s a sign-and-trade, James can get roughly $97 million over five years from teams other than Cleveland. The Cavaliers can give James six years and $127 million. To make up the difference, the Nets can offer many of the marketing and endorsement possibilities of New York.

James idolizes Jay-Z and wants to follow in the hip-hop mogul’s footsteps in developing a brand. With Prokhorov’s wealth and European ties, he could help James achieve three of his desires: to win a championship, become a global superstar and be a billionaire athlete.

"Prokhorov thinks global," said an NBA front-office executive. "He’s a worldwide guy.’’

"He’s going to bring a new enthusiasm to the franchise, a fresh new look," a prominent agent said. "He’s going to put the resources to do what it takes for them to be really competitive. I think there’s a real air of excitement about the Nets."

The Nets have $27 million to spend, enough to sign one max player and another for roughly $11 million. But Thorn continues to try and move salaries.

They potentially have eight draft picks in the next two years and other assets, including Thursday’s first-round choice Derrick Favors, that they would use in trades, to clear money or facilitate sign-and-trades. Thorn has referred to Favors as "a chip."

The Nets have put together many videos and presentations, as well as contingency plans if they can’t get James and/or Bosh. Memphis small forward Rudy Gay and Knicks power forward David Lee are fall-back options, along with Utah power forward Carlos Boozer and Suns big man Amar’e Stoudemire.

But the Nets are putting everything into James, who would make them a championship contender for years.

But now there are questions about how Thorn’s impending departure could impact free agency. Jerry Colangelo, Joe Dumars and Sam Presti have been mentioned as possible replacements for Thorn when he leaves July 15.

The organization wanted Thorn to stay, but is banking on Jay-Z’s appeal and Prokhorov’s intrigue as an international man of mystery with very deep pockets to attract superstars.

"I think all the agents and everybody associated with the game [are] well aware of Mr. Prokhorov," Thorn said. "That’s a real plus for us.

"There’s a curiosity. Every time he’s quoted, it’s always [he wants] to have a good team. I just think he’s a real positive."
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 12:36 PM

Top NBA free agents

http://www.scoresrep...ents-of-2010-2/


However, LBJ would look better as Knick. Just sayin :grimace-32:

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Posted 27 June 2010 - 01:02 PM

Jameer and Vince to the Hornets for Paul.


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Posted 27 June 2010 - 01:34 PM

Come on LeBron!! Join the Nets or Knicks, I pick no favorites!


They are saying the Bulls have the best chance, they could add LeBron and get another top FA, but I am not sure if LBJ and Rose are a good fit together.

Miami would be sick with LBJ and Wade.

They are also saying there is pretty much no chance that LBJ returns to Cleveland.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 02:14 PM

The more I read and hear the more I believe one of these 3 things will happen.

1. LeBron to the Nets and Bosh follows
2. LeBron stays in Cleveland and Bosh goes to Miami
3. LeBron to the Bulls and Bosh follows

Im not gonna say he wont sign with the Knicks, but if he does, I will be shocked. (According to what I read and hear.)
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 02:14 PM

New York Times is reporting that an NBA executive told them that James and Bosh to the... BULLS is all but a done deal. Looks like the Knicks are gonna be left behind again.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 02:33 PM

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New York Times is reporting that an NBA executive told them that James and Bosh to the... BULLS is all but a done deal. Looks like the Knicks are gonna be left behind again.


There is gonna be alot of "done deals" from now until the 8th. When I see the ink dry, THATS when I will react. Other than that all of these publications are just fodder.

We are all going on hunches and speculations but the bottom-line is this, only these guys know the truth so we just have to sit and wait.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 02:34 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 27 June 2010 - 02:34 PM, said:

Come on LeBron!! Join the Nets or Knicks, I pick no favorites!


They are saying the Bulls have the best chance, they could add LeBron and get another top FA, but I am not sure if LBJ and Rose are a good fit together.

Miami would be sick with LBJ and Wade.

They are also saying there is pretty much no chance that LBJ returns to Cleveland.


So you don't think Rose and LBJ can exist, but you're sure of LBJ and Wade being good together?

I still have him going back to Cleveland.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 03:05 PM

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SOURCE: Knicks going after Joe Johnson & Amare

While waiting for their opportunity to sell LeBron James on their team, the New York Knicks will be busy courting other stars that could potentially play with him at Madison Square Garden.

Their first such meeting will be with Joe Johnson, the Atlanta Hawks' All-Star guard, according to league sources.

When the clock strikes midnight ET in New York on July 1, the Knicks will be in Los Angeles meeting with Johnson, who will hold all of his meetings with clubs on the West Coast. After seeing Johnson at 9 p.m. Pacific time, team president Donnie Walsh and coach Mike D'Antoni will fly to Phoenix to meet with Amare Stoudemire.

Finally, the Knicks' brass will fly to northeast Ohio to woo James at 1 p.m. ET on Thursday.

While the Hawks hope to keep Johnson in Atlanta, several sources said the Knicks have emerged as his first choice. If they must lose him, the Hawks' preference is to work out a sign-and-trade deal with the Knicks.

But if no players on the Knicks' roster appeal to Atlanta, Johnson, believing he will make up the difference through endorsements and through buying stock shares in Madison Square Garden, is willing to take less money to play with the Knicks, according to sources.

Whatever the case, the Knicks could offer Johnson a maximum-salary contract worth approximately $96 million over five years, or a deal worth $125 million over six years through a sign-and-trade.

Johnson and Stoudemire emerged as star players while playing for D'Antoni in Phoenix, which is a large part of the reason both players are considering New York so strongly.

Johnson averaged double figures (16.7 ppg) for the first time in his career while playing for D'Antoni in the 2003-04 season. That same year, Stoudemire went from being a 13-point scorer to a 20-point scorer in D'Antoni's wide-open system.

While the Knicks' main target is James, the duo of Johnson and Stoudemire would be a nice consolation prize if James goes elsewhere. The team thinks James and Johnson would be a particularly strong tandem, and it believes that Johnson will talk to James about the benefits of joining forces in New York.

James' first meeting will be with the New Jersey Nets on the morning of July 1, followed by the Knicks and several other clubs over the next few days.

Chris Broussard covers the NBA for ESPN The Magazine.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 03:28 PM

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SOURCE: Knicks going after Joe Johnson & Amare

While waiting for their opportunity to sell LeBron James on their team, the New York Knicks will be busy courting other stars that could potentially play with him at Madison Square Garden.

Their first such meeting will be with Joe Johnson, the Atlanta Hawks' All-Star guard, according to league sources.

When the clock strikes midnight ET in New York on July 1, the Knicks will be in Los Angeles meeting with Johnson, who will hold all of his meetings with clubs on the West Coast. After seeing Johnson at 9 p.m. Pacific time, team president Donnie Walsh and coach Mike D'Antoni will fly to Phoenix to meet with Amare Stoudemire.

Finally, the Knicks' brass will fly to northeast Ohio to woo James at 1 p.m. ET on Thursday.

While the Hawks hope to keep Johnson in Atlanta, several sources said the Knicks have emerged as his first choice. If they must lose him, the Hawks' preference is to work out a sign-and-trade deal with the Knicks.

But if no players on the Knicks' roster appeal to Atlanta, Johnson, believing he will make up the difference through endorsements and through buying stock shares in Madison Square Garden, is willing to take less money to play with the Knicks, according to sources.

Whatever the case, the Knicks could offer Johnson a maximum-salary contract worth approximately $96 million over five years, or a deal worth $125 million over six years through a sign-and-trade.

Johnson and Stoudemire emerged as star players while playing for D'Antoni in Phoenix, which is a large part of the reason both players are considering New York so strongly.

Johnson averaged double figures (16.7 ppg) for the first time in his career while playing for D'Antoni in the 2003-04 season. That same year, Stoudemire went from being a 13-point scorer to a 20-point scorer in D'Antoni's wide-open system.

While the Knicks' main target is James, the duo of Johnson and Stoudemire would be a nice consolation prize if James goes elsewhere. The team thinks James and Johnson would be a particularly strong tandem, and it believes that Johnson will talk to James about the benefits of joining forces in New York.

James' first meeting will be with the New Jersey Nets on the morning of July 1, followed by the Knicks and several other clubs over the next few days.

Chris Broussard covers the NBA for ESPN The Magazine.



Make that happen!!! Joe Johnson is my dude!!

And we keep David Lee? that would be ideal.

However this source is BS. I get the feeling it's more hear-say due to the D'Antoni and Amare relations.

LBJ and Joe J would be a nasty tandem. I can't for things to unfold.

Bosh to Miami seems like a good fit for both, that would be insane. I can't see Bosh going to Chicago though.

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Posted 27 June 2010 - 03:43 PM

I think Bosh is going to follow LBJ, he already said he'll wait to see where LBJ signs before he signs.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 03:59 PM

If after all this, the Knicks end up with Amare and Joe J instead of LBJ/Wade/Bosh, it will kill basketball in NYC. KILL IT.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 04:00 PM

Whoever is questioning whether LBJ or Wade can coexist with Rose needs to get their head examined. I'm more concerned with Noah coexisting with Bosh.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 04:01 PM

Joe Johnson is a bum.

Amare is good but neither of them will have a point guard giving them the ball.

And yeah, I see Bosh piggy backing anyone (Wade or LBJ) he can. He knows he can't be the guy a team builds around.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 04:03 PM

You cannot win with Amare as your Center. You need your bigs to get stops and turn people away at the rim, Amare does none of that. He's good running the floor but you're basically playing 4 on 5 on the other end. Amare can only thrive in a SOS system.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 04:05 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 27 June 2010 - 05:03 PM, said:

You cannot win with Amare as your Center. You need your bigs to get stops and turn people away at the rim, Amare does none of that. He's good running the floor but you're basically playing 4 on 5 on the other end. Amare can only thrive in a SOS system.


Agreed. Still wonder about him even in that D'Antoni system, without a good PG running the team.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 04:08 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 27 June 2010 - 05:05 PM, said:

Agreed. Still wonder about him even in that D'Antoni system, without a good PG running the team.


I think at this point you have to wonder about D'Antoni himself. Was it the system or was it Steve Nash? Also, Donnie Walsh is out of his mind. Chicago traded No. 17 to Washington with Kirk Hinrich in return for the cap space to pursue LeBron and Bosh. Four months ago the Knicks traded Jordan Hill (last year's No. 8 pick), their 2012 No. 1, and agreed to swap No. 1s with Houston in 2011 so the Rockets would take Jared Jeffries off their hands (who makes less money than Hinrich, by the way) so they could also pursue LeBron and Bosh.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 04:12 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 27 June 2010 - 05:08 PM, said:

I think at this point you have to wonder about D'Antoni himself. Was it the system or was it Steve Nash? Also, Donnie Walsh is out of his mind. Chicago traded No. 17 to Washington with Kirk Hinrich in return for the cap space to pursue LeBron and Bosh. Four months ago the Knicks traded Jordan Hill (last year's No. 8 pick), their 2012 No. 1, and agreed to swap No. 1s with Houston in 2011 so the Rockets would take Jared Jeffries off their hands (who makes less money than Hinrich, by the way) so they could also pursue LeBron and Bosh.


Let it be known, I still believe in Jordan Hill. Loved him at Arizona.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 04:18 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 27 June 2010 - 05:12 PM, said:

Let it be known, I still believe in Jordan Hill. Loved him at Arizona.


I can see him becoming a solid starter. What I'm saying is, take what the Bulls did and contrast it with what the Knicks did and it's painfully clear which is the more competent organization. LBJ doesn't just want a max deal, he wants to be on a team with a FO that can deliver him the supporting cast that Cleveland couldn't. The Knicks are basically all-in this summer but the Bulls, who have just as much cap space have a much better team already in place, plus have all their draft picks. If money isn't an issue, which team you think LBJ is going to rank higher?

My issue with LBJ is that I think he's a got a little bitch in him. He talks a good game and he's wildly talented BUT, these past two years he basically disappeared in the playoffs when it most counted. I think that in the back of his mind, he'd rather almost win in NY than play in MJ's shadow and probably never be half as successful. I'm of course speculating but I just don't see that crazy competitiveness in him that MJ had and that Kobe most likely has. LBJ is more like Shaq. Insanely talented, but he'd rather not wake up at 5 AM to shoot jump shots in July.
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