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518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (21 March 2015 - 03:34 PM) how is he the ass clown? it was jets fans who attacked the dude .
ROBJETS Icon : (21 March 2015 - 08:46 PM) And that is why I said Villanova and Wisconsin didn't deserve a #1 seed. Nova owns a team gifted a spot in the tourney then gets owned buy a team not even ranked in the top 25 in the next round
ROBJETS Icon : (21 March 2015 - 08:49 PM) By schedule end of season rankings. Nova split games with #22 Georgetown and beat #24 Butler and #25 VCU.....not much of a resume for a #1 seed only facing ranked teams only ranked in the 20`s
ROBJETS Icon : (21 March 2015 - 08:52 PM) Wisconsin was even worse against ranked teams. Lost to # 4 Duke Lost to #12 maryland and beat #23 Michigan state twice. Not much f a resume for a 1 seed
ROBJETS Icon : (21 March 2015 - 08:56 PM) As I stated before Virginia and Arizona shouldve been #1 seeds. Vrinia only lost to one ranked opponent. Duke. and Arizona beat all their ranked opponents. and all their ranked opponents were top ten and top 15 ranked. Don't know wtf the NCAA was thinking gifting Nova and Consin 1 seeds with shitty ranked opponents wins and losses.
ROBJETS Icon : (21 March 2015 - 08:59 PM) Losing to Duke is one thing but Wisconsin losing to two ranked teams and one of them ranked 12 shouldn't have give them a 1 seed. Bye Bye Nova
ROBJETS Icon : (21 March 2015 - 09:01 PM) Wisconsin has skill and size though I want Az and Consin to face each other in the elite 8 to see who is tougher
ROBJETS Icon : (21 March 2015 - 09:05 PM) Im proud od the Pac 12. Like everyone else I didnt feel UCLA deserved to be in the tourney. They got owned a good bit in the regular season but only 4 Pac 12 teams made it and 3 have moved on to the 16 so far. If Oregon beats Wisconsin tomorrow all 4 teams will be in the sweet 16.
RetireChrebet Icon : (22 March 2015 - 01:26 PM) What was that we were saying about Virginia and a 1
RetireChrebet Icon : (22 March 2015 - 01:26 PM) seed?
RetireChrebet Icon : (22 March 2015 - 01:28 PM) Haha I'm jk man, but my point was if you've never seen virginia play you would know they weren't going anywhere. Their offense is just painful to watch.
ROBJETS Icon : (22 March 2015 - 03:46 PM) Lol....point taken. But a couple of things. 1 you do realize Nova and Va are in the same bracket right? 2 at least Va lost to a top 25 ranked opponent. Nova lost to an unranked.
ROBJETS Icon : (22 March 2015 - 03:49 PM) Also VA beat some good teams. Lost to Duke,beat Maryland and split games with NC and Louisville. Their wins against quality and ranked opponents was higher and better than Nova.
ROBJETS Icon : (22 March 2015 - 03:55 PM) NC State didn't even get one vote to be in the top 25
2JBallar01 Icon : (22 March 2015 - 10:53 PM) @RichCimini: Random contract note: Antonio Cromartie's 4 yr/$32M deal with Jets includes only $7M gtd - $5M base + $2M roster bonus at signing. #nyj
Mr_Jet Icon : (23 March 2015 - 11:45 AM) January - February - Izzo - April - May
2JBallar01 Icon : (24 March 2015 - 01:09 PM) @MMehtaNYDN: Jets announce that they have signed DE Stephen Bowen. #nyj
2JBallar01 Icon : (24 March 2015 - 01:09 PM) @DrewfromJersey: Coples days as an OLB are over. He'll be back to DL. Good for the #Jets. Pretty bad news for NFL players and their heads. #Jets
2JBallar01 Icon : (24 March 2015 - 01:10 PM) @DWAZ73: #Jets busy today, signing DE Stephen Bowen & OT Corey Hilliard, and making signing of DE Kevin Vickerson official.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (24 March 2015 - 03:23 PM) Mike is building some depth and competition
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (24 March 2015 - 03:23 PM) I like it
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (24 March 2015 - 08:10 PM) Jets file tampering charges against Patriots for Kraft's comments
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (24 March 2015 - 08:10 PM) lmao
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (24 March 2015 - 09:53 PM) Jets signing Kellen Davis, TE
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (24 March 2015 - 10:00 PM) Hes a good blocking TE
JSOTF Icon : (25 March 2015 - 06:02 AM) So, the question is.......Do I invest to go see the Jets vs Fish in England this season????????
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (25 March 2015 - 07:10 AM) I'm considering going
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (25 March 2015 - 07:10 AM) My brother is moving to London next year...so I have a reason to be over there
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (25 March 2015 - 07:10 AM) This August I should say
Smedsthejet Icon : (25 March 2015 - 02:59 PM) You both should do it...I'll buy the first (overpriced) beers as well! Got my ticket back in January
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (25 March 2015 - 03:02 PM) Smeds if I come over I'll be sure to check you out
santana Icon : (25 March 2015 - 09:58 PM) FIRE FIREMAN ED
JSOTF Icon : (Yesterday, 03:58 AM) Well, I now live accros the pond and maybe some of us could meet up there?
JSOTF Icon : (Yesterday, 03:59 AM) Smeds, where did you get your tickets?
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:56 AM) Az bitches!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 06:01 AM) I dont know about all that. As bad as we get over sports the Brits get far worse. You might suffer a huge beat down if you say the wrong thing there. Well maybe not being its televised to the U.S.. Security probably be pretty tight.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 06:03 AM) Well...... the good thing is I know who to mooch off of now if I go to London.
JSOTF Icon : (Yesterday, 06:47 AM) hahahaha, it isnt European Football!
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:04 AM) Ive seen a lot of videos. Most countries go psycho over their soccer teams. Ive seen some serious very bloody beat downs. Fans stabbing the players and refs,etc. And they say we are bad in the U.S. not even close to that.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:06 AM) I think one was in Africa....a fan stormed the field and was knifing everyone in sight after his team lost
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:08 AM) Hell even in mma when the Brits come over they are all cocky as hell. Big time cocky like they are going to easily destroy everyone they face cocky.
JSOTF Icon : (Yesterday, 07:36 AM) hahahaha
JSOTF Icon : (Yesterday, 07:36 AM) damn Europeans!
JSOTF Icon : (Yesterday, 07:37 AM) They havent fucked with a disgruntled, lifelong Jets fan!!!
Smedsthejet Icon : (Yesterday, 02:49 PM) Got my tickets from Ticketmaster the day they went on general sale
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***lebron James Watch Thread*** Among other NBA Free Agents

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Posted 27 June 2010 - 12:30 PM

With July 1st coming at us, I think its time we start having some NBA FA talks here. Lets have some fun gentlemen.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 12:34 PM

NorthJersey.com Article

LeBron James eager to hear owner's pitch
Sunday, June 27, 2010
BY AL IANNAZZONE
The Record
STAFF WRITER

Russian multibillionaire Mikhail Prokhorov won’t only promise he can make LeBron James the global icon he craves to be, the Nets’ owner will promise James the world.

Prokhorov will be the first owner James sits down with when the free agent negotiating period begins at 12:01 a.m. Thursday.

James’ relationship with part-owner Jay-Z can’t be discounted, but the main reason James picked the NBA’s worst team to talk with first is because of Prokhorov, who has promised the Nets will win a championship within five years.

"LeBron really wants to meet Prokhorov and see what he’s about," a person close to the situation said. "He’s really interested in meeting him."

Prokhorov, Jay-Z retiring president Rod Thorn and coach Avery Johnson will fly the principal owner’s Gulfstream jet to Ohio for a sit-down with the King and his minions Thursday.

This will be more than a meet and greet, however. Prokhorov is expecting to fit James for a No. 6 Nets’ jersey.

The Bulls, Clippers, Knicks, Cavaliers and Heat will get their chance with James, but there are people who believe the Nets could have the best chance at landing James and perhaps Chris Bosh in what would amount to a package deal. Bosh might follow James to whatever city he decides to play

"He’s coming to New Jersey," someone close to James said.

The Bulls have been considered the favorites, but that prediction seems to change daily. The Nets have as good a shot as Chicago, multiple NBA sources said.

Unless there’s a sign-and-trade, James can get roughly $97 million over five years from teams other than Cleveland. The Cavaliers can give James six years and $127 million. To make up the difference, the Nets can offer many of the marketing and endorsement possibilities of New York.

James idolizes Jay-Z and wants to follow in the hip-hop mogul’s footsteps in developing a brand. With Prokhorov’s wealth and European ties, he could help James achieve three of his desires: to win a championship, become a global superstar and be a billionaire athlete.

"Prokhorov thinks global," said an NBA front-office executive. "He’s a worldwide guy.’’

"He’s going to bring a new enthusiasm to the franchise, a fresh new look," a prominent agent said. "He’s going to put the resources to do what it takes for them to be really competitive. I think there’s a real air of excitement about the Nets."

The Nets have $27 million to spend, enough to sign one max player and another for roughly $11 million. But Thorn continues to try and move salaries.

They potentially have eight draft picks in the next two years and other assets, including Thursday’s first-round choice Derrick Favors, that they would use in trades, to clear money or facilitate sign-and-trades. Thorn has referred to Favors as "a chip."

The Nets have put together many videos and presentations, as well as contingency plans if they can’t get James and/or Bosh. Memphis small forward Rudy Gay and Knicks power forward David Lee are fall-back options, along with Utah power forward Carlos Boozer and Suns big man Amar’e Stoudemire.

But the Nets are putting everything into James, who would make them a championship contender for years.

But now there are questions about how Thorn’s impending departure could impact free agency. Jerry Colangelo, Joe Dumars and Sam Presti have been mentioned as possible replacements for Thorn when he leaves July 15.

The organization wanted Thorn to stay, but is banking on Jay-Z’s appeal and Prokhorov’s intrigue as an international man of mystery with very deep pockets to attract superstars.

"I think all the agents and everybody associated with the game [are] well aware of Mr. Prokhorov," Thorn said. "That’s a real plus for us.

"There’s a curiosity. Every time he’s quoted, it’s always [he wants] to have a good team. I just think he’s a real positive."

Russian multibillionaire Mikhail Prokhorov won’t only promise he can make LeBron James the global icon he craves to be, the Nets’ owner will promise James the world.

Prokhorov will be the first owner James sits down with when the free agent negotiating period begins at 12:01 a.m. Thursday.

James’ relationship with part-owner Jay-Z can’t be discounted, but the main reason James picked the NBA’s worst team to talk with first is because of Prokhorov, who has promised the Nets will win a championship within five years.

"LeBron really wants to meet Prokhorov and see what he’s about," a person close to the situation said. "He’s really interested in meeting him."

Prokhorov, Jay-Z retiring president Rod Thorn and coach Avery Johnson will fly the principal owner’s Gulfstream jet to Ohio for a sit-down with the King and his minions Thursday.

This will be more than a meet and greet, however. Prokhorov is expecting to fit James for a No. 6 Nets’ jersey.

The Bulls, Clippers, Knicks, Cavaliers and Heat will get their chance with James, but there are people who believe the Nets could have the best chance at landing James and perhaps Chris Bosh in what would amount to a package deal. Bosh might follow James to whatever city he decides to play

"He’s coming to New Jersey," someone close to James said.

The Bulls have been considered the favorites, but that prediction seems to change daily. The Nets have as good a shot as Chicago, multiple NBA sources said.

Unless there’s a sign-and-trade, James can get roughly $97 million over five years from teams other than Cleveland. The Cavaliers can give James six years and $127 million. To make up the difference, the Nets can offer many of the marketing and endorsement possibilities of New York.

James idolizes Jay-Z and wants to follow in the hip-hop mogul’s footsteps in developing a brand. With Prokhorov’s wealth and European ties, he could help James achieve three of his desires: to win a championship, become a global superstar and be a billionaire athlete.

"Prokhorov thinks global," said an NBA front-office executive. "He’s a worldwide guy.’’

"He’s going to bring a new enthusiasm to the franchise, a fresh new look," a prominent agent said. "He’s going to put the resources to do what it takes for them to be really competitive. I think there’s a real air of excitement about the Nets."

The Nets have $27 million to spend, enough to sign one max player and another for roughly $11 million. But Thorn continues to try and move salaries.

They potentially have eight draft picks in the next two years and other assets, including Thursday’s first-round choice Derrick Favors, that they would use in trades, to clear money or facilitate sign-and-trades. Thorn has referred to Favors as "a chip."

The Nets have put together many videos and presentations, as well as contingency plans if they can’t get James and/or Bosh. Memphis small forward Rudy Gay and Knicks power forward David Lee are fall-back options, along with Utah power forward Carlos Boozer and Suns big man Amar’e Stoudemire.

But the Nets are putting everything into James, who would make them a championship contender for years.

But now there are questions about how Thorn’s impending departure could impact free agency. Jerry Colangelo, Joe Dumars and Sam Presti have been mentioned as possible replacements for Thorn when he leaves July 15.

The organization wanted Thorn to stay, but is banking on Jay-Z’s appeal and Prokhorov’s intrigue as an international man of mystery with very deep pockets to attract superstars.

"I think all the agents and everybody associated with the game [are] well aware of Mr. Prokhorov," Thorn said. "That’s a real plus for us.

"There’s a curiosity. Every time he’s quoted, it’s always [he wants] to have a good team. I just think he’s a real positive."
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 12:36 PM

Top NBA free agents

http://www.scoresrep...ents-of-2010-2/


However, LBJ would look better as Knick. Just sayin :grimace-32:

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Posted 27 June 2010 - 01:02 PM

Jameer and Vince to the Hornets for Paul.


DOOOOO IT NEW ORLEANS
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 01:34 PM

Come on LeBron!! Join the Nets or Knicks, I pick no favorites!


They are saying the Bulls have the best chance, they could add LeBron and get another top FA, but I am not sure if LBJ and Rose are a good fit together.

Miami would be sick with LBJ and Wade.

They are also saying there is pretty much no chance that LBJ returns to Cleveland.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 02:14 PM

The more I read and hear the more I believe one of these 3 things will happen.

1. LeBron to the Nets and Bosh follows
2. LeBron stays in Cleveland and Bosh goes to Miami
3. LeBron to the Bulls and Bosh follows

Im not gonna say he wont sign with the Knicks, but if he does, I will be shocked. (According to what I read and hear.)
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 02:14 PM

New York Times is reporting that an NBA executive told them that James and Bosh to the... BULLS is all but a done deal. Looks like the Knicks are gonna be left behind again.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 02:33 PM

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New York Times is reporting that an NBA executive told them that James and Bosh to the... BULLS is all but a done deal. Looks like the Knicks are gonna be left behind again.


There is gonna be alot of "done deals" from now until the 8th. When I see the ink dry, THATS when I will react. Other than that all of these publications are just fodder.

We are all going on hunches and speculations but the bottom-line is this, only these guys know the truth so we just have to sit and wait.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 02:34 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 27 June 2010 - 02:34 PM, said:

Come on LeBron!! Join the Nets or Knicks, I pick no favorites!


They are saying the Bulls have the best chance, they could add LeBron and get another top FA, but I am not sure if LBJ and Rose are a good fit together.

Miami would be sick with LBJ and Wade.

They are also saying there is pretty much no chance that LBJ returns to Cleveland.


So you don't think Rose and LBJ can exist, but you're sure of LBJ and Wade being good together?

I still have him going back to Cleveland.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 03:05 PM

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SOURCE: Knicks going after Joe Johnson & Amare

While waiting for their opportunity to sell LeBron James on their team, the New York Knicks will be busy courting other stars that could potentially play with him at Madison Square Garden.

Their first such meeting will be with Joe Johnson, the Atlanta Hawks' All-Star guard, according to league sources.

When the clock strikes midnight ET in New York on July 1, the Knicks will be in Los Angeles meeting with Johnson, who will hold all of his meetings with clubs on the West Coast. After seeing Johnson at 9 p.m. Pacific time, team president Donnie Walsh and coach Mike D'Antoni will fly to Phoenix to meet with Amare Stoudemire.

Finally, the Knicks' brass will fly to northeast Ohio to woo James at 1 p.m. ET on Thursday.

While the Hawks hope to keep Johnson in Atlanta, several sources said the Knicks have emerged as his first choice. If they must lose him, the Hawks' preference is to work out a sign-and-trade deal with the Knicks.

But if no players on the Knicks' roster appeal to Atlanta, Johnson, believing he will make up the difference through endorsements and through buying stock shares in Madison Square Garden, is willing to take less money to play with the Knicks, according to sources.

Whatever the case, the Knicks could offer Johnson a maximum-salary contract worth approximately $96 million over five years, or a deal worth $125 million over six years through a sign-and-trade.

Johnson and Stoudemire emerged as star players while playing for D'Antoni in Phoenix, which is a large part of the reason both players are considering New York so strongly.

Johnson averaged double figures (16.7 ppg) for the first time in his career while playing for D'Antoni in the 2003-04 season. That same year, Stoudemire went from being a 13-point scorer to a 20-point scorer in D'Antoni's wide-open system.

While the Knicks' main target is James, the duo of Johnson and Stoudemire would be a nice consolation prize if James goes elsewhere. The team thinks James and Johnson would be a particularly strong tandem, and it believes that Johnson will talk to James about the benefits of joining forces in New York.

James' first meeting will be with the New Jersey Nets on the morning of July 1, followed by the Knicks and several other clubs over the next few days.

Chris Broussard covers the NBA for ESPN The Magazine.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 03:28 PM

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SOURCE: Knicks going after Joe Johnson & Amare

While waiting for their opportunity to sell LeBron James on their team, the New York Knicks will be busy courting other stars that could potentially play with him at Madison Square Garden.

Their first such meeting will be with Joe Johnson, the Atlanta Hawks' All-Star guard, according to league sources.

When the clock strikes midnight ET in New York on July 1, the Knicks will be in Los Angeles meeting with Johnson, who will hold all of his meetings with clubs on the West Coast. After seeing Johnson at 9 p.m. Pacific time, team president Donnie Walsh and coach Mike D'Antoni will fly to Phoenix to meet with Amare Stoudemire.

Finally, the Knicks' brass will fly to northeast Ohio to woo James at 1 p.m. ET on Thursday.

While the Hawks hope to keep Johnson in Atlanta, several sources said the Knicks have emerged as his first choice. If they must lose him, the Hawks' preference is to work out a sign-and-trade deal with the Knicks.

But if no players on the Knicks' roster appeal to Atlanta, Johnson, believing he will make up the difference through endorsements and through buying stock shares in Madison Square Garden, is willing to take less money to play with the Knicks, according to sources.

Whatever the case, the Knicks could offer Johnson a maximum-salary contract worth approximately $96 million over five years, or a deal worth $125 million over six years through a sign-and-trade.

Johnson and Stoudemire emerged as star players while playing for D'Antoni in Phoenix, which is a large part of the reason both players are considering New York so strongly.

Johnson averaged double figures (16.7 ppg) for the first time in his career while playing for D'Antoni in the 2003-04 season. That same year, Stoudemire went from being a 13-point scorer to a 20-point scorer in D'Antoni's wide-open system.

While the Knicks' main target is James, the duo of Johnson and Stoudemire would be a nice consolation prize if James goes elsewhere. The team thinks James and Johnson would be a particularly strong tandem, and it believes that Johnson will talk to James about the benefits of joining forces in New York.

James' first meeting will be with the New Jersey Nets on the morning of July 1, followed by the Knicks and several other clubs over the next few days.

Chris Broussard covers the NBA for ESPN The Magazine.



Make that happen!!! Joe Johnson is my dude!!

And we keep David Lee? that would be ideal.

However this source is BS. I get the feeling it's more hear-say due to the D'Antoni and Amare relations.

LBJ and Joe J would be a nasty tandem. I can't for things to unfold.

Bosh to Miami seems like a good fit for both, that would be insane. I can't see Bosh going to Chicago though.

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Posted 27 June 2010 - 03:43 PM

I think Bosh is going to follow LBJ, he already said he'll wait to see where LBJ signs before he signs.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 03:59 PM

If after all this, the Knicks end up with Amare and Joe J instead of LBJ/Wade/Bosh, it will kill basketball in NYC. KILL IT.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 04:00 PM

Whoever is questioning whether LBJ or Wade can coexist with Rose needs to get their head examined. I'm more concerned with Noah coexisting with Bosh.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 04:01 PM

Joe Johnson is a bum.

Amare is good but neither of them will have a point guard giving them the ball.

And yeah, I see Bosh piggy backing anyone (Wade or LBJ) he can. He knows he can't be the guy a team builds around.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 04:03 PM

You cannot win with Amare as your Center. You need your bigs to get stops and turn people away at the rim, Amare does none of that. He's good running the floor but you're basically playing 4 on 5 on the other end. Amare can only thrive in a SOS system.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 04:05 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 27 June 2010 - 05:03 PM, said:

You cannot win with Amare as your Center. You need your bigs to get stops and turn people away at the rim, Amare does none of that. He's good running the floor but you're basically playing 4 on 5 on the other end. Amare can only thrive in a SOS system.


Agreed. Still wonder about him even in that D'Antoni system, without a good PG running the team.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 04:08 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 27 June 2010 - 05:05 PM, said:

Agreed. Still wonder about him even in that D'Antoni system, without a good PG running the team.


I think at this point you have to wonder about D'Antoni himself. Was it the system or was it Steve Nash? Also, Donnie Walsh is out of his mind. Chicago traded No. 17 to Washington with Kirk Hinrich in return for the cap space to pursue LeBron and Bosh. Four months ago the Knicks traded Jordan Hill (last year's No. 8 pick), their 2012 No. 1, and agreed to swap No. 1s with Houston in 2011 so the Rockets would take Jared Jeffries off their hands (who makes less money than Hinrich, by the way) so they could also pursue LeBron and Bosh.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 04:12 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 27 June 2010 - 05:08 PM, said:

I think at this point you have to wonder about D'Antoni himself. Was it the system or was it Steve Nash? Also, Donnie Walsh is out of his mind. Chicago traded No. 17 to Washington with Kirk Hinrich in return for the cap space to pursue LeBron and Bosh. Four months ago the Knicks traded Jordan Hill (last year's No. 8 pick), their 2012 No. 1, and agreed to swap No. 1s with Houston in 2011 so the Rockets would take Jared Jeffries off their hands (who makes less money than Hinrich, by the way) so they could also pursue LeBron and Bosh.


Let it be known, I still believe in Jordan Hill. Loved him at Arizona.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 04:18 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 27 June 2010 - 05:12 PM, said:

Let it be known, I still believe in Jordan Hill. Loved him at Arizona.


I can see him becoming a solid starter. What I'm saying is, take what the Bulls did and contrast it with what the Knicks did and it's painfully clear which is the more competent organization. LBJ doesn't just want a max deal, he wants to be on a team with a FO that can deliver him the supporting cast that Cleveland couldn't. The Knicks are basically all-in this summer but the Bulls, who have just as much cap space have a much better team already in place, plus have all their draft picks. If money isn't an issue, which team you think LBJ is going to rank higher?

My issue with LBJ is that I think he's a got a little bitch in him. He talks a good game and he's wildly talented BUT, these past two years he basically disappeared in the playoffs when it most counted. I think that in the back of his mind, he'd rather almost win in NY than play in MJ's shadow and probably never be half as successful. I'm of course speculating but I just don't see that crazy competitiveness in him that MJ had and that Kobe most likely has. LBJ is more like Shaq. Insanely talented, but he'd rather not wake up at 5 AM to shoot jump shots in July.
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