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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
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Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 30 June 2010 - 12:00 PM

Who would you rather have at PG, a in prime Jason Kidd or Chris Paul? Who was better?
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Posted 30 June 2010 - 12:09 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 30 June 2010 - 01:00 PM, said:

Who would you rather have at PG, a in prime Jason Kidd or Chris Paul? Who was better?


That's such a tough question. I'll take Paul though. Bit more explosive of a scorer.
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Posted 30 June 2010 - 12:18 PM

Are you really not allowed to sign a FA until July 8th?
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Posted 30 June 2010 - 12:33 PM

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Posted 30 June 2010 - 02:29 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 30 June 2010 - 01:00 PM, said:

Who would you rather have at PG, a in prime Jason Kidd or Chris Paul? Who was better?


Paul is the better scorer but Kidd is better at getting triple doubles which would help come playoff time. I'd go with Kidd, but my answer might be different 10 years from now.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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Posted 30 June 2010 - 02:49 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 30 June 2010 - 01:18 PM, said:

Are you really not allowed to sign a FA until July 8th?


Yeah. Teams can start to negotiate starting at midnight tonight. I guess the reason they can't sign until the 8th is because any trades would have to be approved by the league, teams would have to make sure the salary cap math for everybody adds up, and players have to take and pass physicals.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

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wow, you really think there is an ice pops chance in hell that Lebron comes to NY? He doesnt need NY for endorsments, he gets them anywhere. He needs a ring, and NY has nothing to offer Lebron in talent standpoint. Im not trying to be a jerk, i just dont know why you getting your hopes up. Just setting yourself up for dissapointment.
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Posted 30 June 2010 - 08:26 PM

I think the Nets would be a better team to join for LBJ, if they can clear enough to sign another max FA. Nets could do some damage if they get a superstar like LBJ.
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Posted 30 June 2010 - 09:04 PM

View PostClemens11, on 30 June 2010 - 08:59 PM, said:

wow, you really think there is an ice pops chance in hell that Lebron comes to NY? He doesnt need NY for endorsments, he gets them anywhere. He needs a ring, and NY has nothing to offer Lebron in talent standpoint. Im not trying to be a jerk, i just dont know why you getting your hopes up. Just setting yourself up for dissapointment.



Yeah because a franchise can't win 20something games in one season and then sign or trade for some star players then the next season win the championship.

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View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
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Posted 30 June 2010 - 09:07 PM

Yeah and if some team could pull off getting James, Bosh, and Wade, that would blow away that trio.
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Posted 30 June 2010 - 09:52 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 30 June 2010 - 10:04 PM, said:

Yeah because a franchise can't win 20something games in one season and then sign or trade for some star players then the next season win the championship.

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Exactly!

You never know. What if the Knicks land Joe Johnson and LBJ?, then they make some low level moves. Draft next year and keep building. If Lebron wants to win like 05 said he should go to the clippers. He's not going to the Championship in Chi-town his first year and neither. Nor is he with the Nets. Miami or Clipppers gives him WIN NOW. Knicks and Nets give them winning in the future.

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Posted 30 June 2010 - 10:23 PM

View PostS-Dubb, on 30 June 2010 - 10:52 PM, said:

Exactly!

You never know. What if the Knicks land Joe Johnson and LBJ?, then they make some low level moves. Draft next year and keep building. If Lebron wants to win like 05 said he should go to the clippers. He's not going to the Championship in Chi-town his first year and neither. Nor is he with the Nets. Miami or Clipppers gives him WIN NOW. Knicks and Nets give them winning in the future.



Only thing with the Clippers is he'd have to go through the Lakers to get to the Finals. I don't see that happening. Plus the the Suns (if they keep Amar'e) and Nuggets could be speed bumps.

The Knicks could sign LeBron, Bosh or Amar'e, and keep David Lee and make the Finals. the Nets already have a good foundation to build on with Lopez and Harris. If they were to add LeBron and a Dirk or Joe Johnson, they could make the Finals too. There is a lot of parity in the east. Boston's window is closed now and Cleveland would be nothing without LeBron (and have been nothing with him the last 3 post-seasons). The only team (as of now) that would be a challenge is Orlando, and Boston showed if you play the "Jordan rules" on Dwight Howard you can beat them.

Like KG says "anything is possible."

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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View PostMr_Jet, on 30 June 2010 - 11:23 PM, said:

Only thing with the Clippers is he'd have to go through the Lakers to get to the Finals. I don't see that happening. Plus the the Suns and Nuggets could be speed bumps.

The Knicks could sign LeBron, Bosh or Amar'e, and keep David Lee and make the Finals. the Nets already have a good foundation to build on with Lopez and Harris. If they were to add LeBron and a Dirk or Joe Johnson, they could make the Finals too. There is a lot of parity in the east. Boston's window is closed now and Cleveland would be nothing without LeBron (and have been nothing with him the last 3 post-seasons). The only team (as of now) that would be a challenge is Orlando, and Boston showed if you play the "Jordan rules" on Dwight Howard you can beat them.

Like KG says "anything is possible."


He wants to WIN a Championship, not just get there. He's "just gotten there" already.

If he's ruling out the Western Conference because of the Lakers... he's a bigger bitch then I thought.
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Posted 30 June 2010 - 11:02 PM

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View PostJetsman05, on 30 June 2010 - 11:26 PM, said:

He wants to WIN a Championship, not just get there. He's "just gotten there" already.

If he's ruling out the Western Conference because of the Lakers... he's a bigger bitch then I thought.



You honestly think the the current Clippers with LeBron could beat the Lakers in a best of 7 playoff series. They don't even have a head coach right now. Blake Griffin is still a ?, Chris Kaman is inconsistent and overrated and Donald Sterling is not going to pay to keep enough talent around to help LeBron win multiple championships. Nothing in his history has shown he is an owner that cares about winning. The Clippers with LeBron aren't winning the championship next year or any other year after that. LeBron with the Clippers is basically the Cleveland Cavaliers-West. Good enough to make the playoffs but gone before June.

The Clippers and Knicks both won 29 games this past season. The only difference is the Clippers were 21 games behind the Thunder (the 8th seed in the west). The Knicks were 12 games behind the Bulls (the 8th seed in the east). You got to be in it to win it and the Knicks are closer in the east right now to making the playoffs than the Clippers are in the west. LeBron with the Clippers aren't beating the Lakers, or the Nuggets, or even the aging Spurs and Suns teams or a young Thunder team.

As long as Donald Sterling owns that team they will always be that other pro basketball team in L.A. that's always on summer vacation by late April. LeBron or no LeBron. And they sure as hell aren't beating a Phil Jackson coached Lakers team in a playoff series.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 01 July 2010 - 08:54 AM

View PostMr_Jet, on 01 July 2010 - 01:01 AM, said:

You honestly think the the current Clippers with LeBron could beat the Lakers in a best of 7 playoff series. They don't even have a head coach right now. Blake Griffin is still a ?, Chris Kaman is inconsistent and overrated and Donald Sterling is not going to pay to keep enough talent around to help LeBron win multiple championships. Nothing in his history has shown he is an owner that cares about winning. The Clippers with LeBron aren't winning the championship next year or any other year after that. LeBron with the Clippers is basically the Cleveland Cavaliers-West. Good enough to make the playoffs but gone before June.

The Clippers and Knicks both won 29 games this past season. The only difference is the Clippers were 21 games behind the Thunder (the 8th seed in the west). The Knicks were 12 games behind the Bulls (the 8th seed in the east). You got to be in it to win it and the Knicks are closer in the east right now to making the playoffs than the Clippers are in the west. LeBron with the Clippers aren't beating the Lakers, or the Nuggets, or even the aging Spurs and Suns teams or a young Thunder team.

As long as Donald Sterling owns that team they will always be that other pro basketball team in L.A. that's always on summer vacation by late April. LeBron or no LeBron. And they sure as hell aren't beating a Phil Jackson coached Lakers team in a playoff series.


I'm saying the Clippers have a MUCH better team, with a possible new owner linedup should they land LeBron. Kaman is overrated? LOL by who? He's underrated in everyones eyes. He has a complete game for a big man, something LeBron has never played with. Griffin doesn't need to be anything but an energy guy and a rebounder... something he has already proven to be. If you can rebound in College, you can rebound in the NBA.

If joining the Knicks means getting 5th in the East and losing in the conference semi's or finals like he does with the Cavs.. then what the f*** is the difference? He better be looking to join up with Wade then because that's the ONLY way he gets a legit chance from Day 1 at being the Championship winner.

I don't get your logic. The Clippers could lose to the Lakers, so definitely don't join them... but the Knicks could lose to the Lakers as well, but since it'd be in the Finals, go ahead and join them. It's OK to get 2nd place, but not 3rd or 4th

Haha, it's not worth arguing because he won't go to the Clippers but IMO, clearly the Clippers give him the best team around him.

Just my opinion on the whole matter.
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Posted 01 July 2010 - 09:33 AM

I think the best chance LBJ has at winning a championship is if him, Wade, and Bosh all go to Miami.
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Good column by Bill Livingston in the Cleveland newspaper this morning
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