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S-Dubb Icon : (29 January 2016 - 10:22 AM) long time no chat, Ya boy has returned from the depths. Good to see everyone alive and well. Another season down the drain... what else is new? Fitz coming back next yr means we wont be going to the superbowl. We seriously need to land a QB. I hope Petty is the future and Im still quietly waiting for Geno to show up. IF they retain him it would speak volumes
Mr_Jet Icon : (29 January 2016 - 11:23 AM) I'm done with Geno. Never really expected much from him from the beginning. So I'm also looking for Petty to be the future.
vjdbbq Icon : (29 January 2016 - 04:33 PM) GENO SUCKS MONKEY DICK
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 January 2016 - 07:16 PM) S-Dubb??.Who's that guy?
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 January 2016 - 07:17 PM) FIRE S-DUBB
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 09:10 AM) Dubb and Amen? Did I take a wrong turn and land back in 2007?
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 09:10 AM) Haha good to see both of you
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 03:28 PM) I don't care if Cro comes back, I think Marcus Williams can start opposite Revis. Hes a ball hawk and has performed well everytime hes called on.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 03:41 PM) I want Fitz back as starter, he lacks arm talent but he is scrappy
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 03:41 PM) The team loves him as a leader and he is a good bridge QB as we groom a QB of the future.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 03:42 PM) He also has top notch pocket awareness.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 03:42 PM) He allows our playmakers to make plays. After years of terrible QB play, I'll take 31 TD 15 INTs almost 4,000 yards
MikeGangGree... Icon : (01 February 2016 - 12:41 AM) I can't stop thinking about the off season...... what the hell are we gonna do!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 09:59 AM) Maccagnan is going to have to show his worth
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 10:00 AM) They can't have Wilkerson on that franchise tag, they have to sign him long term with a small cap hit or trade him. Otherwise we are in trouble with other FAs.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 10:00 AM) We need Harrison back, you can't run a effective 3-4 without a stud NT.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 10:01 AM) I hope we get Harrison back on a 4 yr contract.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (02 February 2016 - 12:55 PM) I really think we are going to have to tag and trade Wilkerson
MikeGangGree... Icon : (02 February 2016 - 12:56 PM) If we keep wilk we lose Harrison or Fitzpatrick maybe both
MikeGangGree... Icon : (02 February 2016 - 12:56 PM) And ivory
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 07:23 PM) We can't keep Wilkerson, Richardson, and Williams. A move has to be made
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 07:25 PM) If the Jets want to go cheaper, they can try to trade Wilkerson and have Richardson/Williams for cheap
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 07:25 PM) Then they can re-sign Harrison, FItzpatrick, Ivory, and maybe Powell.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (03 February 2016 - 09:59 AM) Kaepernick apparently wants out of SF and wants to join the Jets
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (03 February 2016 - 09:59 AM) Guess he sees the Jets as a team with a great WR tandem and a quality OC who builds a offense around the players
MikeGangGree... Icon : (03 February 2016 - 10:29 AM) No thanks
MikeGangGree... Icon : (03 February 2016 - 10:29 AM) Unless he's dirt cheap
MikeGangGree... Icon : (03 February 2016 - 10:30 AM) The jets would be fools to take on that contract
Jetsfan115 Icon : (03 February 2016 - 02:09 PM) keep powell, snakcs, wilkerson, and fitz. let ivory walk, trade richardson, cut cromartie, restructure brick
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (03 February 2016 - 04:18 PM) Marshall said no to Kaepnerick, he wants FItzpatrick as his QB
vjdbbq Icon : (04 February 2016 - 12:07 PM) Where's Rob ? I need some ass shots !!!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 February 2016 - 04:16 PM) its crazy how dead this site is
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 February 2016 - 04:16 PM) its super bowl Sunday!!
vjdbbq Icon : (07 February 2016 - 04:47 PM) Everybody is at Rob's house ; checking out the asses !!!!!
Smedsthejet Icon : (07 February 2016 - 05:17 PM) Hope Cotchery gets a ring tonight
santana Icon : (07 February 2016 - 07:04 PM) Yeah I would rather see a panther win
santana Icon : (07 February 2016 - 07:25 PM) Zzzz
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (07 February 2016 - 09:03 PM) I want to see Manning go out on top
vjdbbq Icon : (07 February 2016 - 11:03 PM) Jerricho got screwed on the call in the first quarter but he dropped a few later on .
vjdbbq Icon : (07 February 2016 - 11:04 PM) Screw Manning and his chicken parm .
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 February 2016 - 11:29 PM) We need a pass rushing LB!! Look at Denver.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 February 2016 - 11:30 PM) Nothing against manning but he wasn't good at all this year and gives me hope that we can reach a super bowl with Fitzpatrick
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (08 February 2016 - 06:42 AM) Denver has two future HOF edge rushers with Miller and Ware.
ganggreen2003 Icon : (08 February 2016 - 08:01 PM) NO to kapergimmick
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 11:37 AM) Yes to Kaepernick, he'd be great here!
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Jets Spending Well Below 2009 Cap

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Posted 11 July 2010 - 01:01 PM

Jane McManus of ESPNNewYork.com reports that the Jets are spending well below their 2009 cap. The Jets seem to be balking when it comes to giving their players guaranteed dollars. That is one of the sticking points with CB Darrelle Revis, while OL Nick Mangold and LB David Harris are limited in what they can make by a rule stipulating raises this season are limited to a 30 percent increase of their prior salary.

Despite signing D’Brickashaw Ferguson — who guaranteed money isn’t absolutely guaranteed against catastrophic injury — and Vladimir Ducasse this week, the Jets are being tight with the purse strings. Last year the salary cap was $128M, and would’ve been raised this season. But in a year where teams are not bound to any cap, the Jets have spent around $104M including Ferguson’s contract, and $5M of that is to pay former OL Alan Faneca. So even under the old salary cap the Jets would have roughly $24M to allocate among Mangold, Harris and Revis. In reality, they could pay create contracts for the remainder of their core four that would be over that cap, and not stress about it too much with several free-agent signings likely coming off the books next season.

But the Jets aren’t.

With potential training camp holdouts on the horizon on Aug. 1, the lack of spending raises questions about what the Jets' overall strategy is.A close look at D’Brickashaw Ferguson’s contract shows that the left tackle is not getting as much guaranteed money as originally reported because, after the first season, his money may not be secured against a catastrophic injury if it kept him off the roster the following season.That may not be a stipulation other players will agree to after seeing Leon Washington traded to Seattle after suffering a gruesome leg injury in a game last season.

Woody Johnson says that the Jets are a business, and that he has to run it like a business. On Wall Street that would mean bonuses for your top producers after a banner year, but the Jets seem to be following a different business model.

Training camp opens Aug. 1 in Cortland, and it’s a date that is fast approaching.
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Posted 11 July 2010 - 04:40 PM

[quote]Woody Johnson says that the Jets are a business, and that he has to run it like a business. [b]On Wall Street that would mean bonuses for your top producers after a banner year, but the Jets seem to be following a different business model[/b].[/quote]

This line scared me. Every day I grow concerned about the Jets being cheap and stubborn. Afraid to open the wallet up. They are shewed, even to all star caliber talent. Now in all honesty, maybe the Jets are setting a precedent. Maybe they feel these contracts are outrageous (Nnamdi) and they really don't want to cough up such an enormous contract. I sympathize with the Jets here a little. I give them credit for not just throwing money around and strapping themselves and handcuffing the team. However, they need to find some middle ground. (easier said then done) especially when the entire world thinks he's the best and unfortunately money is the barometer for which a player is judged ultimately.

Revis needs to come back down to earth and realize that's yes, he's important but other players around him need to be paid to keep this team intact. Taking a little less then 15mil isn't a crime. I think he can feed his family with that money. Unfortunately that makes to much sense and in this world greed rules everything.

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Posted 12 July 2010 - 08:45 AM

Well Said good Job.
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Posted 12 July 2010 - 12:01 PM

[quote name='S-Dubb' date='11 July 2010 - 10:40 PM' timestamp='1278884452' post='305557']
This line scared me. Every day I grow concerned about the Jets being cheap and stubborn. Afraid to open the wallet up. They are shewed, even to all star caliber talent. Now in all honesty, maybe the Jets are setting a precedent. Maybe they feel these contracts are outrageous (Nnamdi) and they really don't want to cough up such an enormous contract. I sympathize with the Jets here a little. I give them credit for not just throwing money around and strapping themselves and handcuffing the team. However, they need to find some middle ground. (easier said then done) especially when the entire world thinks he's the best and unfortunately money is the barometer for which a player is judged ultimately.

Revis needs to come back down to earth and realize that's yes, he's important but other players around him need to be paid to keep this team intact. Taking a little less then 15mil isn't a crime. I think he can feed his family with that money. Unfortunately that makes to much sense and in this world greed rules everything.

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I agree that it's frustrating that the front office aren't opening their wallets and getting the core players on long term deals, but they would be crazy to do so and then see the salary cap reintroduced once a new CBA agreement is reached - and you have to think a salary cap will be part of the deal with the owners looking to take more money from the players. Plus the 30% rule surely handcuffs them when it comes to reaching new deals for guys still on their rookie contracts.
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Posted 12 July 2010 - 12:40 PM

in all fairness were not the only team holding off contracts until ther is a CBA here is a short list i can think of

Dallas - miles austin
Giants - steve smith, kiwanuka, osi
Colts - Peyton Manning
Pats - Tom Brady
Jets - mangold, revis, harris

And i'm sure their are others al well
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Posted 12 July 2010 - 01:44 PM

I have to ask myself what is the Jets motivation here? If the article is accurate, we are well under the 09 cap, 10 would have had an increase. So I am guessing it is not as cap related as we may think. If they KNOW they cant make D Rev happy, (& I really don't believe in this & HOPE it wont come to this) trade him. I know we bitch about players wanting their money...but I still think the organization is not SHOWING him they appreciate him. Saying it in the media is one thing, but to actually SHOW a man his work, efforts & accomplishments are appreciated are very different. By no stretch am I saying give him the moon, but lets be FAIR. Yes its a business, but you cant stay in business if you let your top performers feel unappreciated & under paid. That is just what we see in the public view, who KNOWS the real feelings in the locker room. I hate the thought that an organization would appear to put a SB run on a back burner to $ & .00
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Posted 12 July 2010 - 02:16 PM

[quote name='arizonaJETSfan' date='12 July 2010 - 11:44 AM' timestamp='1278960276' post='305590']
I have to ask myself what is the Jets motivation here? If the article is accurate, we are well under the 09 cap, 10 would have had an increase. So I am guessing it is not as cap related as we may think. If they KNOW they cant make D Rev happy, (& I really don't believe in this & HOPE it wont come to this) trade him. I know we bitch about players wanting their money...but I still think the organization is not SHOWING him they appreciate him. Saying it in the media is one thing, but to actually SHOW a man his work, efforts & accomplishments are appreciated are very different. By no stretch am I saying give him the moon, but lets be FAIR. Yes its a business, but you cant stay in business if you let your top performers feel unappreciated & under paid. That is just what we see in the public view, who KNOWS the real feelings in the locker room. I hate the thought that an organization would appear to put a SB run on a back burner to $ & .00
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we don't have all the detals but revis was offered a 100 million dollar extension that added six years to his curent 3 which was stated that he would finish his 3 years out
2010 1 mil
2011 5 mil
2012 15 mil

then for the remainder of the contract (2013-2017) averging 12-13 mil a season

and it wasn't enough for revis. brick on teh other hand got a similar offer and took it
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