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MikeGangGree... Icon : (28 April 2016 - 09:31 PM) Not f***ing happy
MikeGangGree... Icon : (28 April 2016 - 09:31 PM) I hope I'm wrong tho
MikeGangGree... Icon : (28 April 2016 - 09:31 PM) if I'm wrong I will eat m crow
MikeGangGree... Icon : (28 April 2016 - 09:39 PM) Some mocks had him top 10
MikeGangGree... Icon : (28 April 2016 - 09:42 PM) this guy is small
Jetsfan115 Icon : (28 April 2016 - 09:45 PM) Most mocks had Lee at 17 to the Falcons
Jetsfan115 Icon : (28 April 2016 - 09:45 PM) He's a day 1 starter for us. We've needed OLB forever
Jetsfan115 Icon : (28 April 2016 - 09:46 PM) Plus we generate a great rush from wilk rich and Williams
MikeGangGree... Icon : (28 April 2016 - 09:50 PM) I wanted Lawson bad
MikeGangGree... Icon : (28 April 2016 - 09:50 PM) f***ing bills
Jetsfan115 Icon : (28 April 2016 - 09:51 PM) Lee fills a need better
Jetsfan115 Icon : (28 April 2016 - 09:52 PM) I would have liked tunsil to slide to us though. After east picking great
MikeGangGree... Icon : (28 April 2016 - 09:52 PM) Would you take Lee over Lawson?
azjetfan Icon : (28 April 2016 - 09:55 PM) I'm not inspire by that pick. Not even a little
Jetsfan115 Icon : (28 April 2016 - 10:01 PM) Wasn't an option. Lawson was gone
Jetsfan115 Icon : (28 April 2016 - 10:02 PM) Lawson is more of a de. We already have too many of those. We only have 1 proven LBer and he's 32 and we run a 3-4. Lee is a day 1 starter
Jetsfan115 Icon : (28 April 2016 - 10:03 PM) Broncos traded up for lynch
MikeGangGree... Icon : (28 April 2016 - 10:41 PM) Round 1 is done
2JBallar01 Icon : (29 April 2016 - 12:43 AM) He will play ILB for us.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (29 April 2016 - 11:08 AM) http://nyjetsfan.com...showtopic=38865
Jetsfan115 Icon : (29 April 2016 - 11:19 AM) jets tried to trade up for tunsil but the price was too high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (29 April 2016 - 05:10 PM) Tunsil will end up out of the league
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (29 April 2016 - 05:12 PM) Lee isn't a pass rusher, hes a fast athletic LB. Hes probably their future at ILB, someone who can cover in the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (29 April 2016 - 06:16 PM) jets said he's an ILB for us
Jetsfan115 Icon : (29 April 2016 - 06:17 PM) If we could grab jack he would be an OLB
Jetsfan115 Icon : (29 April 2016 - 06:17 PM) ttians have 3 picks in the next 13 picks
Jetsfan115 Icon : (29 April 2016 - 06:33 PM) jack to jax 36th overal
ganggreen2003 Icon : (29 April 2016 - 06:33 PM) Did you hear that the 1st round pick for the Browns RETIRED after getting drafted
SoReALSoJetS Icon : (29 April 2016 - 07:29 PM) Hi guys long time no talk hope everyone is well
Mr_Jet Icon : (29 April 2016 - 07:46 PM) SMH
ganggreen2003 Icon : (29 April 2016 - 07:46 PM) JETS drafted QB Hackenberg PSU
Mr_Jet Icon : (29 April 2016 - 07:47 PM) Should have picked Connor Cook.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 April 2016 - 07:56 PM) I guess we are giving up on petty
Jetsfan115 Icon : (29 April 2016 - 09:02 PM) Or giving up on geno
Jetsfan115 Icon : (29 April 2016 - 09:02 PM) I said the rumor was they liked him more then cook
Mr_Jet Icon : (29 April 2016 - 11:35 PM) I know I'm biased, but I've seen them both play. Cook is just better. Hackenberg had one good year. Cook has won more games, played in big games and won them....whatever, its done now so no sense on dwelling on it I guess. I just don't see the appeal in Hackenberg, nice kid, but I always thought he was really overrated. Oh well. I would have taken Kevin Hogan over Hackenberg.
azjetfan Icon : (30 April 2016 - 03:47 PM) From what I have read so far he had a great freshman year under Obrien in a pro style offense. At that point some considered him the next Andrew luck. Then Obrien left and they shifted to a spread under new HC who did poor job bringing in talent. He was also sacked and hit a million times. Might be shell shocked.
Smedsthejet Icon : (01 May 2016 - 06:17 AM) But Chan Gailey runs a spread system - still, I'm comfortable with the Hackenberg pick seeing as Gailey will develop the system to suit his strength... I'm just glad that we passed on Paxton Lynch in the first...we still desperately need Fitz to re-sign though
azjetfan Icon : (01 May 2016 - 07:14 PM) From my understanding the spread in college and the spread in NFL are not the same principals. I really think it was more of a talent issue and getting sacked 80 times in 2 years that did him in. I have no idea if he will make it. I don't follow college ball enough to to know. Theses are just things I read in articles.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (02 May 2016 - 10:24 AM) I'm stoked about getting peake in the 7th round. that was a steal. he was a projected 3rd rounder. wonder what scared teams away
Jetsfan115 Icon : (02 May 2016 - 06:05 PM) Jets Invite Terron Beckham(Odell's Cousin) to Minicamp
Jetsfan115 Icon : (02 May 2016 - 06:06 PM) Listed as a RB had more bench presses and highest vertical of anyone this year. Hasn't played football since high school and apparently not very smart
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (03 May 2016 - 05:16 PM) The Jets had Hackenberg as their #2 rated QB
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (03 May 2016 - 05:16 PM) Apparently, they loved Golf and tried to trade up. When that failed, their #2 QB was Hackenberg, they fell in love with his football IQ
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (03 May 2016 - 05:17 PM) It would be a mistake to start him right away, hes a guy who needs development. He has the talent, and apparently he has good leadership skills and football IQ. His mechanics are off though
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Posted 11 July 2010 - 01:01 PM

Jane McManus of ESPNNewYork.com reports that the Jets are spending well below their 2009 cap. The Jets seem to be balking when it comes to giving their players guaranteed dollars. That is one of the sticking points with CB Darrelle Revis, while OL Nick Mangold and LB David Harris are limited in what they can make by a rule stipulating raises this season are limited to a 30 percent increase of their prior salary.

Despite signing D’Brickashaw Ferguson — who guaranteed money isn’t absolutely guaranteed against catastrophic injury — and Vladimir Ducasse this week, the Jets are being tight with the purse strings. Last year the salary cap was $128M, and would’ve been raised this season. But in a year where teams are not bound to any cap, the Jets have spent around $104M including Ferguson’s contract, and $5M of that is to pay former OL Alan Faneca. So even under the old salary cap the Jets would have roughly $24M to allocate among Mangold, Harris and Revis. In reality, they could pay create contracts for the remainder of their core four that would be over that cap, and not stress about it too much with several free-agent signings likely coming off the books next season.

But the Jets aren’t.

With potential training camp holdouts on the horizon on Aug. 1, the lack of spending raises questions about what the Jets' overall strategy is.A close look at D’Brickashaw Ferguson’s contract shows that the left tackle is not getting as much guaranteed money as originally reported because, after the first season, his money may not be secured against a catastrophic injury if it kept him off the roster the following season.That may not be a stipulation other players will agree to after seeing Leon Washington traded to Seattle after suffering a gruesome leg injury in a game last season.

Woody Johnson says that the Jets are a business, and that he has to run it like a business. On Wall Street that would mean bonuses for your top producers after a banner year, but the Jets seem to be following a different business model.

Training camp opens Aug. 1 in Cortland, and it’s a date that is fast approaching.
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Posted 11 July 2010 - 04:40 PM

[quote]Woody Johnson says that the Jets are a business, and that he has to run it like a business. [b]On Wall Street that would mean bonuses for your top producers after a banner year, but the Jets seem to be following a different business model[/b].[/quote]

This line scared me. Every day I grow concerned about the Jets being cheap and stubborn. Afraid to open the wallet up. They are shewed, even to all star caliber talent. Now in all honesty, maybe the Jets are setting a precedent. Maybe they feel these contracts are outrageous (Nnamdi) and they really don't want to cough up such an enormous contract. I sympathize with the Jets here a little. I give them credit for not just throwing money around and strapping themselves and handcuffing the team. However, they need to find some middle ground. (easier said then done) especially when the entire world thinks he's the best and unfortunately money is the barometer for which a player is judged ultimately.

Revis needs to come back down to earth and realize that's yes, he's important but other players around him need to be paid to keep this team intact. Taking a little less then 15mil isn't a crime. I think he can feed his family with that money. Unfortunately that makes to much sense and in this world greed rules everything.

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Posted 12 July 2010 - 08:45 AM

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Posted 12 July 2010 - 12:01 PM

[quote name='S-Dubb' date='11 July 2010 - 10:40 PM' timestamp='1278884452' post='305557']
This line scared me. Every day I grow concerned about the Jets being cheap and stubborn. Afraid to open the wallet up. They are shewed, even to all star caliber talent. Now in all honesty, maybe the Jets are setting a precedent. Maybe they feel these contracts are outrageous (Nnamdi) and they really don't want to cough up such an enormous contract. I sympathize with the Jets here a little. I give them credit for not just throwing money around and strapping themselves and handcuffing the team. However, they need to find some middle ground. (easier said then done) especially when the entire world thinks he's the best and unfortunately money is the barometer for which a player is judged ultimately.

Revis needs to come back down to earth and realize that's yes, he's important but other players around him need to be paid to keep this team intact. Taking a little less then 15mil isn't a crime. I think he can feed his family with that money. Unfortunately that makes to much sense and in this world greed rules everything.

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I agree that it's frustrating that the front office aren't opening their wallets and getting the core players on long term deals, but they would be crazy to do so and then see the salary cap reintroduced once a new CBA agreement is reached - and you have to think a salary cap will be part of the deal with the owners looking to take more money from the players. Plus the 30% rule surely handcuffs them when it comes to reaching new deals for guys still on their rookie contracts.
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Posted 12 July 2010 - 12:40 PM

in all fairness were not the only team holding off contracts until ther is a CBA here is a short list i can think of

Dallas - miles austin
Giants - steve smith, kiwanuka, osi
Colts - Peyton Manning
Pats - Tom Brady
Jets - mangold, revis, harris

And i'm sure their are others al well
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Posted 12 July 2010 - 01:44 PM

I have to ask myself what is the Jets motivation here? If the article is accurate, we are well under the 09 cap, 10 would have had an increase. So I am guessing it is not as cap related as we may think. If they KNOW they cant make D Rev happy, (& I really don't believe in this & HOPE it wont come to this) trade him. I know we bitch about players wanting their money...but I still think the organization is not SHOWING him they appreciate him. Saying it in the media is one thing, but to actually SHOW a man his work, efforts & accomplishments are appreciated are very different. By no stretch am I saying give him the moon, but lets be FAIR. Yes its a business, but you cant stay in business if you let your top performers feel unappreciated & under paid. That is just what we see in the public view, who KNOWS the real feelings in the locker room. I hate the thought that an organization would appear to put a SB run on a back burner to $ & .00
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Posted 12 July 2010 - 02:16 PM

[quote name='arizonaJETSfan' date='12 July 2010 - 11:44 AM' timestamp='1278960276' post='305590']
I have to ask myself what is the Jets motivation here? If the article is accurate, we are well under the 09 cap, 10 would have had an increase. So I am guessing it is not as cap related as we may think. If they KNOW they cant make D Rev happy, (& I really don't believe in this & HOPE it wont come to this) trade him. I know we bitch about players wanting their money...but I still think the organization is not SHOWING him they appreciate him. Saying it in the media is one thing, but to actually SHOW a man his work, efforts & accomplishments are appreciated are very different. By no stretch am I saying give him the moon, but lets be FAIR. Yes its a business, but you cant stay in business if you let your top performers feel unappreciated & under paid. That is just what we see in the public view, who KNOWS the real feelings in the locker room. I hate the thought that an organization would appear to put a SB run on a back burner to $ & .00
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we don't have all the detals but revis was offered a 100 million dollar extension that added six years to his curent 3 which was stated that he would finish his 3 years out
2010 1 mil
2011 5 mil
2012 15 mil

then for the remainder of the contract (2013-2017) averging 12-13 mil a season

and it wasn't enough for revis. brick on teh other hand got a similar offer and took it
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