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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
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Aaron Glenn Decides To Retire A Texan

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 12:16 PM

Leave Glenn alone, if you were a star player in the waning years of your career, and left available for the expansion draft. In other words sent to a team with [size="4"]NO[/size] chance of winning anything, you wouldnt retire a Jet either
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Posted 29 July 2010 - 10:51 PM

we had to expose him, we couldn't afford his contract and the expansion gave us a way to unload his contract with no penalty. matter of fact they took both our starting CBs if i remember correctly
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Posted 29 July 2010 - 11:38 PM

[quote name='S-Dubb' date='29 July 2010 - 12:10 PM' timestamp='1280423426' post='306415']

However he was born in Texas. Humble, Texas as a matter of fact. He gets a pass.
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Exactly... he's a born and raised Houston (vicinity) guy- God bless and thanks for the years...

One of the best Jets corners in my memory.
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Posted 30 July 2010 - 09:35 PM

[quote name='Luigidel' date='28 July 2010 - 07:17 PM' timestamp='1280359028' post='306364']
If Herm didn't like him for his type of defense scheme he could have been traded for pics or someone Herm liked more. Glenn had to have taken it personally because he wasn't an average player.
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Aaron Glenn was an excellent cornerback and one of the few 'excellent' players the Jets have had, particularly in the modern era. He was also an excellent returner. Does anyone remember the game in 98 against Kansas City? He had an excellent kickoff return that basically saved our season.

In fact, other than Darelle Revis, Aaron Glenn may have been the best cornerback the Jets have ever employed, with James Hasty a close second.

In one of a multitude of Terry Bradway blunders, Glenn and Marcus Coleman were left unprotected for the expansion draft, prior to the 2001 season. The Jets signed Donnie Abraham and Aaron Beasely to replace them. How can I forget? I remember teams converting 3rd and forever through the air against the vaunted Ted Cotrell Cover 2 (a euphemism for cover NO ONE) from 2001 to 2003. What a joke.
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Posted 30 July 2010 - 09:45 PM

I was a big Donnie Abe fan speaking of him. One of those lunch bucket kind of corners. Not flashy but just solid. Aaron Glenn was the best corner to ever wear a Jets Uni until Revis. Can't really hate on Aaron Glenn, other then the fact he decided to retire a Texan. Wish he would have done it here with us.



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Posted 30 July 2010 - 09:50 PM

man i like hearin those names. marcus coleman, donnie abe victor green, mo williams. good times
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Posted 30 July 2010 - 10:04 PM

[quote name='Camenzind' date='30 July 2010 - 07:35 PM' timestamp='1280543742' post='306576']
Aaron Glenn was an excellent cornerback and one of the few 'excellent' players the Jets have had, particularly in the modern era. He was also an excellent returner. Does anyone remember the game in 98 against Kansas City? He had an excellent kickoff return that basically saved our season.

In fact, other than Darelle Revis, Aaron Glenn may have been the best cornerback the Jets have ever employed, with James Hasty a close second.

In one of a multitude of Terry Bradway blunders, Glenn and Marcus Coleman were left unprotected for the expansion draft, prior to the 2001 season. The Jets signed Donnie Abraham and Aaron Beasely to replace them. How can I forget? I remember teams converting 3rd and forever through the air against the vaunted Ted Cotrell Cover 2 (a euphemism for cover NO ONE) from 2001 to 2003. What a joke.
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how about the 100+ yarder in the playoffs against the broncos at the end of the half on a missed long FG try by denver putting the jets up 10-0 at halftime?
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Posted 30 July 2010 - 10:06 PM

518 victor green was a beast. i love the way he played. a real intimidater that never missed tackles. he always led us in tackles to at the safety spot and we had some good LBers (like mo lewis and bryan cox) how did he never make the pro bowl?
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Posted 30 July 2010 - 10:11 PM

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How does that look? I miss seeing Cox on the field and always being able to point out where he was.
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Posted 30 July 2010 - 10:16 PM

marvin jones and omar stoutmire were names that i forgot too lol. and farrior too. we had a nice LB corps then too
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 12:41 AM

Coulda been worse...he wanted to retire a Dolphin. We didn't want him.
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 11:58 AM

[quote name='Jetsfan115' date='30 July 2010 - 11:04 PM' timestamp='1280545451' post='306598']
how about the 100+ yarder in the playoffs against the broncos at the end of the half on a missed long FG try by denver putting the jets up 10-0 at halftime?
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What playoff game are you referring to? Aaron Glenn returned a missed field goal 100+ yards against the Colts in 1998 right before the half ended. And the Jets still lost the game...
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 12:23 PM

[quote name='Camenzind' date='30 July 2010 - 09:35 PM' timestamp='1280543742' post='306576']
Aaron Glenn was an excellent cornerback and one of the few 'excellent' players the Jets have had, particularly in the modern era. He was also an excellent returner. Does anyone remember the game in 98 against Kansas City? He had an excellent kickoff return that basically saved our season.

In fact, other than Darelle Revis, Aaron Glenn may have been the best cornerback the Jets have ever employed, with James Hasty a close second.

In one of a multitude of Terry Bradway blunders, Glenn and Marcus Coleman were left unprotected for the expansion draft, prior to the 2001 season. The Jets signed Donnie Abraham and Aaron Beasely to replace them. How can I forget? I remember teams converting 3rd and forever through the air against the vaunted Ted Cotrell Cover 2 (a euphemism for cover NO ONE) from 2001 to 2003. What a joke.
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I cant believe what im reading... 40 something year old Steve De'berg started the 98 week 9 Kansas City game and there was no way in hell that game was going into the loss collum. Parcells even went as far as saying so before the game. The game was a heavily rainsoaked game delayed by lighting at one part. I dont remember if glenn returned a kick but your statement that he "saved the season" I wont comment on. the win in this game gave us a 5-3 record, we eventually went on to 12-4 record. Our season was NEVER in jeopardy after Vinny became the starting QB replacing Glenn Foley in week 5 during the Rams loss. The only game we didnt earn was the Seattle game where the ref said Vinny's QB sneak was a TD but the replay showed the ball never crossed the plain but couldn't be over ruled for some reason. The Jets were a machine that season after Vinny took over until the AFC title loss at Denver. The season was never really in jeopardy in 1998, and Glenn had a good year for us.
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 01:19 PM

[quote name='Camenzind' date='31 July 2010 - 09:58 AM' timestamp='1280595537' post='306637']
What playoff game are you referring to? Aaron Glenn returned a missed field goal 100+ yards against the Colts in 1998 right before the half ended. And the Jets still lost the game...
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i think it was against the broncos to put us up 10-0 at the half, but we lost 20-10
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 01:22 PM

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i think it was against the broncos to put us up 10-0 at the half, but we lost 20-10
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it wasn't the denver game, but it couldn't be the colts becuase we didn't play them that year in the playoffs. we had a bye week 1st, then we played jax and won then played den in the AFC champ game and lost 23-10

Can anyone pinpoint where he did this?
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 01:26 PM

ok i checked it was against the colts you were right on that but it wasn't in a playoff game. for some reason i thought it was. anyway i found this

http://www.thejetsblog.com/2010/07/19/tjb-hall-of-fame-aaron-glenn/

you should check it out. its a nice read on glenn and his career
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 02:48 PM

[quote name='Jetsfan115' date='31 July 2010 - 01:19 PM' timestamp='1280600379' post='306645']
i think it was against the broncos to put us up 10-0 at the half, but we lost 20-10
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the 10-0 score was a result of a field goal, and a blocked punt (I forget by who) near denvers end zone that resulted in a rushing TD (probably by martin)
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Posted 01 August 2010 - 09:52 AM

[quote name='Jetsfan115' date='31 July 2010 - 02:26 PM' timestamp='1280600787' post='306647']
ok i checked it was against the colts you were right on that but it wasn't in a playoff game. for some reason i thought it was. anyway i found this

http://www.thejetsblog.com/2010/07/19/tjb-hall-of-fame-aaron-glenn/

you should check it out. its a nice read on glenn and his career
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Yes, I knew it was a regular season game because it was the last game the Jets lost in the regular season and Parcells had said, "I'm too old to lose."

I vividly recall Peyton driving the Colts down the field to win the game and although I am not certain, I believe it was his first career come from behind win.
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Posted 01 August 2010 - 10:11 AM

[quote name='Luigidel' date='31 July 2010 - 01:23 PM' timestamp='1280596998' post='306640']
I cant believe what im reading... 40 something year old Steve De'berg started the 98 week 9 Kansas City game and there was no way in hell that game was going into the loss collum. Parcells even went as far as saying so before the game. The game was a heavily rainsoaked game delayed by lighting at one part. I dont remember if glenn returned a kick but your statement that he "saved the season" I wont comment on. the win in this game gave us a 5-3 record, we eventually went on to 12-4 record. Our season was NEVER in jeopardy after Vinny became the starting QB replacing Glenn Foley in week 5 during the Rams loss. The only game we didnt earn was the Seattle game where the ref said Vinny's QB sneak was a TD but the replay showed the ball never crossed the plain but couldn't be over ruled for some reason. The Jets were a machine that season after Vinny took over until the AFC title loss at Denver. The season was never really in jeopardy in 1998, and Glenn had a good year for us.
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I'm quite impressed. I seldom read a posting that outlines vivid recollections of past games. I read your profile. Although you are incorrect about the final game in 97 (O'Donnell actually did the right thing; the refs stopped the playclock and warned the fans that the next time it would be a 5 yard penalty), I'm really impressed with your memory. I too recall watching the game against the Patriots in 97 (Curtis Martin had 40 carries for 200 yards in that game!). And yes, it was a great game.

That being said, when it comes to Jet games, you've got to get up much earlier than me my friend! Steve Deberg was not the quarterback in that game. In fact, the Jets crushed him and the Falcons the very same season, as he was subbing for Chris Chandler, remember? Grbac was the quarterback for the Chiefs. And yes, the season was very much in doubt early on in 98, as the Jets opened 0-2. At 4-3, this game was pivotal. No one could run the ball in this game. This game really portended things for both teams. KC went in the tank after this game, and it ultimately led to Schottenheimer's demise. The Jets, while stumbling one more time with the Colts, never really looked back.

NFL games have ebb and flows. Certain plays, while seemingly insignificant, really turn out to be enormous in their impact. Sometimes, players don't realize it until after the season. That Aaron Glenn kickoff was huge. KC had just scored a touchdown to take the lead in the 4th quarter. The stadium was rocking. The game was very much in doubt. The Jets, a historically losing organization, had lost games like this a thousand times. But Parcells was able to "will" the team out of the Same Old Jets mentality. Players like Aaron Glenn had to step up and make a play, something Jet teams in the past simply could not do. Glenn got us to midfield or slightly beyond. Eventually, Testaverde hit that piece of shit Kyle Brady for a 20 yard touchdown pass to take the lead for good. And I remember my heart being in my throat on that throw, because a KC defender decided to take a chance and broke on the route, nearly returning it for a touchdown. But the pass had enough velocity with it to get there just before the defender could.
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Posted 01 August 2010 - 12:32 PM

[quote name='Camenzind' date='01 August 2010 - 10:11 AM' timestamp='1280675484' post='306706']
I'm quite impressed. I seldom read a posting that outlines vivid recollections of past games. I read your profile. Although you are incorrect about the final game in 97 (O'Donnell actually did the right thing; the refs stopped the playclock and warned the fans that the next time it would be a 5 yard penalty), I'm really impressed with your memory. I too recall watching the game against the Patriots in 97 (Curtis Martin had 40 carries for 200 yards in that game!). And yes, it was a great game.

That being said, when it comes to Jet games, you've got to get up much earlier than me my friend! Steve Deberg was not the quarterback in that game. In fact, the Jets crushed him and the Falcons the very same season, as he was subbing for Chris Chandler, remember? Grbac was the quarterback for the Chiefs. And yes, the season was very much in doubt early on in 98, as the Jets opened 0-2. At 4-3, this game was pivotal. No one could run the ball in this game. This game really portended things for both teams. KC went in the tank after this game, and it ultimately led to Schottenheimer's demise. The Jets, while stumbling one more time with the Colts, never really looked back.

NFL games have ebb and flows. Certain plays, while seemingly insignificant, really turn out to be enormous in their impact. Sometimes, players don't realize it until after the season. That Aaron Glenn kickoff was huge. KC had just scored a touchdown to take the lead in the 4th quarter. The stadium was rocking. The game was very much in doubt. The Jets, a historically losing organization, had lost games like this a thousand times. But Parcells was able to "will" the team out of the Same Old Jets mentality. Players like Aaron Glenn had to step up and make a play, something Jet teams in the past simply could not do. Glenn got us to midfield or slightly beyond. Eventually, Testaverde hit that piece of shit Kyle Brady for a 20 yard touchdown pass to take the lead for good. And I remember my heart being in my throat on that throw, because a KC defender decided to take a chance and broke on the route, nearly returning it for a touchdown. But the pass had enough velocity with it to get there just before the defender could.
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Your right Im wrong, I got the Kansas City and Atlanta game mixed up. Deberg started for the Falcons in the Atlanta game. I got Deberg stuck in my head because of Parcells pregame comment that hes bringing Simms back if Deberg beats the jets, gotta love the tuna. As far as this goes, "When it comes to Jet games, you've got to get up much earlier than me", lets just say you and I will be keeping each other honest in this forum Bud.
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