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ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) If they keep ZHill after this game I will be shocked.
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:38 PM) Philly gave us a worse ass whipping than Detroit gave Buffalo. only difference is we scored
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:42 PM) Im just wondering what manning will put up on our secondary? 70?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:12 PM) who cares about getting destroyed in a preseason game, especially the 4th one. Most of these guys won't even make the team
ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:15 PM) Hill cut yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:18 PM) FIRE IDZIK
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:21 PM) Yeah this game means nothing...except to Stephen Hill (who fumbled lol) and 115
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:23 PM) Hill is a bum, hes pretty much never shown much football skill. The Jets fucked up big time taking him over Alshon Jeffery.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:29 PM) I'm still pissed off about that
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:43 PM) Its not that Im worried about the preseason game itself. i could care less about that. Its the fact of how bad we got destroyed. And some of the guys will be on the team and others on the fringe so getting destroyed like that doesnt fill me with confidence
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:44 PM) It would be one thing if it was just the second half or 4th quarter but this was the whole game. especially getting destroyed in the 1st quarter and at least part of the 2nd where a lot of the guys will be on the team
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:48 PM) 2nd and 3rd stringers making the team had something to prove and even our 2nd stringers got owned so yes Im very concerned. The first stringers need breaks and also if some of them get injured they need to step up. So no after this performance start to finish Im very concerned
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 06:39 AM) Meh...you're reading too much into it
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 06:40 AM) Even in seasons where the Jets blew, I haven't seen anyone refer to the preseason to complain. Ever.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:15 AM) fire izdik http://theredzone.or...rs/Default.aspx
Jetsman05 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 11:17 AM) I picture Rob and 115 as real life friends
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 04:01 PM) Holmes can still play, problem is that hes also a cancer. He wore out his welcome with the Jets
ganggreen2003 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 08:23 PM) did Hill get cut?
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:00 PM) Haven't seen anything yet
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:06 PM) Whos ready for the season!!? WOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (30 August 2014 - 11:54 AM) Hill has been cut
MikeGangGree... Icon : (30 August 2014 - 01:24 PM) Who wants to take bets he ends up in NE
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:18 PM) We'll I guess you guys are fools then in thinking im a fool for being concerned. Do any of you even know that in 2013 the Jets gave up the most passing yards in the franchise since 1986? And our secondary right now is worse than last year right now. To not be concerned is utterly foolish.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:19 PM) Unless our d-line has a monstrous year odds are the team will be eaten up in the pass. Every team will game plan to exploit the pass this year.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:56 PM) Patterson got cut
flood555 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:24 PM) Patterson must have been a huge cancer to get cut
flood555 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:26 PM) is there a midseason draft? we need a DB!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:58 PM) Our week 1 starting CBs will be Antonio Allen and Darrin Walls... wow
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:58 PM) interesting that Simms and Boyd were released
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 04:00 PM) No more McIntyre
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:20 PM) Pretty sure some of these cuts like Simms and McIntyre were made for removing some more cap space to try to find some decent corners and maybe another reliable wr. Possibly get some players cheap. I'd say the current 53 roster will change a good bit in the next week.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:23 PM) I just hope Geno doesn't get hurt or we are horse f*cked. Vick sure as hell can't stay healthy for a full season. I guess the FO could also be think of picking up an old vet cut as 3rd qb. Simms is ok but I'd never trust him to win a regular season game if he was put in.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:25 PM) Anyway it's going yo be an interesting week.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 10:18 PM) I doubt it was about freeing up money, considering we are way under. Like more than $20 mil, way more than enough to find some vet minimum CB
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 10:19 PM) it's more about the roster numbers. McIntyre was replaced by rookies. IK showed flashes when he played
bleedsgreen Icon : (Yesterday, 08:34 AM) McIntyre is a shock to me he was a solid backup and made some big plays
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Aaron Glenn Decides To Retire A Texan

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 12:16 PM

Leave Glenn alone, if you were a star player in the waning years of your career, and left available for the expansion draft. In other words sent to a team with [size="4"]NO[/size] chance of winning anything, you wouldnt retire a Jet either
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Posted 29 July 2010 - 10:51 PM

we had to expose him, we couldn't afford his contract and the expansion gave us a way to unload his contract with no penalty. matter of fact they took both our starting CBs if i remember correctly
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Posted 29 July 2010 - 11:38 PM

[quote name='S-Dubb' date='29 July 2010 - 12:10 PM' timestamp='1280423426' post='306415']

However he was born in Texas. Humble, Texas as a matter of fact. He gets a pass.
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Exactly... he's a born and raised Houston (vicinity) guy- God bless and thanks for the years...

One of the best Jets corners in my memory.
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Posted 30 July 2010 - 09:35 PM

[quote name='Luigidel' date='28 July 2010 - 07:17 PM' timestamp='1280359028' post='306364']
If Herm didn't like him for his type of defense scheme he could have been traded for pics or someone Herm liked more. Glenn had to have taken it personally because he wasn't an average player.
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Aaron Glenn was an excellent cornerback and one of the few 'excellent' players the Jets have had, particularly in the modern era. He was also an excellent returner. Does anyone remember the game in 98 against Kansas City? He had an excellent kickoff return that basically saved our season.

In fact, other than Darelle Revis, Aaron Glenn may have been the best cornerback the Jets have ever employed, with James Hasty a close second.

In one of a multitude of Terry Bradway blunders, Glenn and Marcus Coleman were left unprotected for the expansion draft, prior to the 2001 season. The Jets signed Donnie Abraham and Aaron Beasely to replace them. How can I forget? I remember teams converting 3rd and forever through the air against the vaunted Ted Cotrell Cover 2 (a euphemism for cover NO ONE) from 2001 to 2003. What a joke.
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Posted 30 July 2010 - 09:45 PM

I was a big Donnie Abe fan speaking of him. One of those lunch bucket kind of corners. Not flashy but just solid. Aaron Glenn was the best corner to ever wear a Jets Uni until Revis. Can't really hate on Aaron Glenn, other then the fact he decided to retire a Texan. Wish he would have done it here with us.



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Posted 30 July 2010 - 09:50 PM

man i like hearin those names. marcus coleman, donnie abe victor green, mo williams. good times
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Posted 30 July 2010 - 10:04 PM

[quote name='Camenzind' date='30 July 2010 - 07:35 PM' timestamp='1280543742' post='306576']
Aaron Glenn was an excellent cornerback and one of the few 'excellent' players the Jets have had, particularly in the modern era. He was also an excellent returner. Does anyone remember the game in 98 against Kansas City? He had an excellent kickoff return that basically saved our season.

In fact, other than Darelle Revis, Aaron Glenn may have been the best cornerback the Jets have ever employed, with James Hasty a close second.

In one of a multitude of Terry Bradway blunders, Glenn and Marcus Coleman were left unprotected for the expansion draft, prior to the 2001 season. The Jets signed Donnie Abraham and Aaron Beasely to replace them. How can I forget? I remember teams converting 3rd and forever through the air against the vaunted Ted Cotrell Cover 2 (a euphemism for cover NO ONE) from 2001 to 2003. What a joke.
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how about the 100+ yarder in the playoffs against the broncos at the end of the half on a missed long FG try by denver putting the jets up 10-0 at halftime?
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Posted 30 July 2010 - 10:06 PM

518 victor green was a beast. i love the way he played. a real intimidater that never missed tackles. he always led us in tackles to at the safety spot and we had some good LBers (like mo lewis and bryan cox) how did he never make the pro bowl?
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Posted 30 July 2010 - 10:11 PM

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How does that look? I miss seeing Cox on the field and always being able to point out where he was.
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Posted 30 July 2010 - 10:16 PM

marvin jones and omar stoutmire were names that i forgot too lol. and farrior too. we had a nice LB corps then too
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 12:41 AM

Coulda been worse...he wanted to retire a Dolphin. We didn't want him.
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 11:58 AM

[quote name='Jetsfan115' date='30 July 2010 - 11:04 PM' timestamp='1280545451' post='306598']
how about the 100+ yarder in the playoffs against the broncos at the end of the half on a missed long FG try by denver putting the jets up 10-0 at halftime?
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What playoff game are you referring to? Aaron Glenn returned a missed field goal 100+ yards against the Colts in 1998 right before the half ended. And the Jets still lost the game...
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 12:23 PM

[quote name='Camenzind' date='30 July 2010 - 09:35 PM' timestamp='1280543742' post='306576']
Aaron Glenn was an excellent cornerback and one of the few 'excellent' players the Jets have had, particularly in the modern era. He was also an excellent returner. Does anyone remember the game in 98 against Kansas City? He had an excellent kickoff return that basically saved our season.

In fact, other than Darelle Revis, Aaron Glenn may have been the best cornerback the Jets have ever employed, with James Hasty a close second.

In one of a multitude of Terry Bradway blunders, Glenn and Marcus Coleman were left unprotected for the expansion draft, prior to the 2001 season. The Jets signed Donnie Abraham and Aaron Beasely to replace them. How can I forget? I remember teams converting 3rd and forever through the air against the vaunted Ted Cotrell Cover 2 (a euphemism for cover NO ONE) from 2001 to 2003. What a joke.
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I cant believe what im reading... 40 something year old Steve De'berg started the 98 week 9 Kansas City game and there was no way in hell that game was going into the loss collum. Parcells even went as far as saying so before the game. The game was a heavily rainsoaked game delayed by lighting at one part. I dont remember if glenn returned a kick but your statement that he "saved the season" I wont comment on. the win in this game gave us a 5-3 record, we eventually went on to 12-4 record. Our season was NEVER in jeopardy after Vinny became the starting QB replacing Glenn Foley in week 5 during the Rams loss. The only game we didnt earn was the Seattle game where the ref said Vinny's QB sneak was a TD but the replay showed the ball never crossed the plain but couldn't be over ruled for some reason. The Jets were a machine that season after Vinny took over until the AFC title loss at Denver. The season was never really in jeopardy in 1998, and Glenn had a good year for us.
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 01:19 PM

[quote name='Camenzind' date='31 July 2010 - 09:58 AM' timestamp='1280595537' post='306637']
What playoff game are you referring to? Aaron Glenn returned a missed field goal 100+ yards against the Colts in 1998 right before the half ended. And the Jets still lost the game...
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i think it was against the broncos to put us up 10-0 at the half, but we lost 20-10
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 01:22 PM

[quote name='Jetsfan115' date='31 July 2010 - 11:19 AM' timestamp='1280600379' post='306645']
i think it was against the broncos to put us up 10-0 at the half, but we lost 20-10
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it wasn't the denver game, but it couldn't be the colts becuase we didn't play them that year in the playoffs. we had a bye week 1st, then we played jax and won then played den in the AFC champ game and lost 23-10

Can anyone pinpoint where he did this?
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 01:26 PM

ok i checked it was against the colts you were right on that but it wasn't in a playoff game. for some reason i thought it was. anyway i found this

http://www.thejetsblog.com/2010/07/19/tjb-hall-of-fame-aaron-glenn/

you should check it out. its a nice read on glenn and his career
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 02:48 PM

[quote name='Jetsfan115' date='31 July 2010 - 01:19 PM' timestamp='1280600379' post='306645']
i think it was against the broncos to put us up 10-0 at the half, but we lost 20-10
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the 10-0 score was a result of a field goal, and a blocked punt (I forget by who) near denvers end zone that resulted in a rushing TD (probably by martin)
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Posted 01 August 2010 - 09:52 AM

[quote name='Jetsfan115' date='31 July 2010 - 02:26 PM' timestamp='1280600787' post='306647']
ok i checked it was against the colts you were right on that but it wasn't in a playoff game. for some reason i thought it was. anyway i found this

http://www.thejetsblog.com/2010/07/19/tjb-hall-of-fame-aaron-glenn/

you should check it out. its a nice read on glenn and his career
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Yes, I knew it was a regular season game because it was the last game the Jets lost in the regular season and Parcells had said, "I'm too old to lose."

I vividly recall Peyton driving the Colts down the field to win the game and although I am not certain, I believe it was his first career come from behind win.
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Posted 01 August 2010 - 10:11 AM

[quote name='Luigidel' date='31 July 2010 - 01:23 PM' timestamp='1280596998' post='306640']
I cant believe what im reading... 40 something year old Steve De'berg started the 98 week 9 Kansas City game and there was no way in hell that game was going into the loss collum. Parcells even went as far as saying so before the game. The game was a heavily rainsoaked game delayed by lighting at one part. I dont remember if glenn returned a kick but your statement that he "saved the season" I wont comment on. the win in this game gave us a 5-3 record, we eventually went on to 12-4 record. Our season was NEVER in jeopardy after Vinny became the starting QB replacing Glenn Foley in week 5 during the Rams loss. The only game we didnt earn was the Seattle game where the ref said Vinny's QB sneak was a TD but the replay showed the ball never crossed the plain but couldn't be over ruled for some reason. The Jets were a machine that season after Vinny took over until the AFC title loss at Denver. The season was never really in jeopardy in 1998, and Glenn had a good year for us.
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I'm quite impressed. I seldom read a posting that outlines vivid recollections of past games. I read your profile. Although you are incorrect about the final game in 97 (O'Donnell actually did the right thing; the refs stopped the playclock and warned the fans that the next time it would be a 5 yard penalty), I'm really impressed with your memory. I too recall watching the game against the Patriots in 97 (Curtis Martin had 40 carries for 200 yards in that game!). And yes, it was a great game.

That being said, when it comes to Jet games, you've got to get up much earlier than me my friend! Steve Deberg was not the quarterback in that game. In fact, the Jets crushed him and the Falcons the very same season, as he was subbing for Chris Chandler, remember? Grbac was the quarterback for the Chiefs. And yes, the season was very much in doubt early on in 98, as the Jets opened 0-2. At 4-3, this game was pivotal. No one could run the ball in this game. This game really portended things for both teams. KC went in the tank after this game, and it ultimately led to Schottenheimer's demise. The Jets, while stumbling one more time with the Colts, never really looked back.

NFL games have ebb and flows. Certain plays, while seemingly insignificant, really turn out to be enormous in their impact. Sometimes, players don't realize it until after the season. That Aaron Glenn kickoff was huge. KC had just scored a touchdown to take the lead in the 4th quarter. The stadium was rocking. The game was very much in doubt. The Jets, a historically losing organization, had lost games like this a thousand times. But Parcells was able to "will" the team out of the Same Old Jets mentality. Players like Aaron Glenn had to step up and make a play, something Jet teams in the past simply could not do. Glenn got us to midfield or slightly beyond. Eventually, Testaverde hit that piece of shit Kyle Brady for a 20 yard touchdown pass to take the lead for good. And I remember my heart being in my throat on that throw, because a KC defender decided to take a chance and broke on the route, nearly returning it for a touchdown. But the pass had enough velocity with it to get there just before the defender could.
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Posted 01 August 2010 - 12:32 PM

[quote name='Camenzind' date='01 August 2010 - 10:11 AM' timestamp='1280675484' post='306706']
I'm quite impressed. I seldom read a posting that outlines vivid recollections of past games. I read your profile. Although you are incorrect about the final game in 97 (O'Donnell actually did the right thing; the refs stopped the playclock and warned the fans that the next time it would be a 5 yard penalty), I'm really impressed with your memory. I too recall watching the game against the Patriots in 97 (Curtis Martin had 40 carries for 200 yards in that game!). And yes, it was a great game.

That being said, when it comes to Jet games, you've got to get up much earlier than me my friend! Steve Deberg was not the quarterback in that game. In fact, the Jets crushed him and the Falcons the very same season, as he was subbing for Chris Chandler, remember? Grbac was the quarterback for the Chiefs. And yes, the season was very much in doubt early on in 98, as the Jets opened 0-2. At 4-3, this game was pivotal. No one could run the ball in this game. This game really portended things for both teams. KC went in the tank after this game, and it ultimately led to Schottenheimer's demise. The Jets, while stumbling one more time with the Colts, never really looked back.

NFL games have ebb and flows. Certain plays, while seemingly insignificant, really turn out to be enormous in their impact. Sometimes, players don't realize it until after the season. That Aaron Glenn kickoff was huge. KC had just scored a touchdown to take the lead in the 4th quarter. The stadium was rocking. The game was very much in doubt. The Jets, a historically losing organization, had lost games like this a thousand times. But Parcells was able to "will" the team out of the Same Old Jets mentality. Players like Aaron Glenn had to step up and make a play, something Jet teams in the past simply could not do. Glenn got us to midfield or slightly beyond. Eventually, Testaverde hit that piece of shit Kyle Brady for a 20 yard touchdown pass to take the lead for good. And I remember my heart being in my throat on that throw, because a KC defender decided to take a chance and broke on the route, nearly returning it for a touchdown. But the pass had enough velocity with it to get there just before the defender could.
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Your right Im wrong, I got the Kansas City and Atlanta game mixed up. Deberg started for the Falcons in the Atlanta game. I got Deberg stuck in my head because of Parcells pregame comment that hes bringing Simms back if Deberg beats the jets, gotta love the tuna. As far as this goes, "When it comes to Jet games, you've got to get up much earlier than me", lets just say you and I will be keeping each other honest in this forum Bud.
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