NYJetsFan.com Forums: Sources: No Talk Between Jets, Revis - NYJetsFan.com Forums

Jump to content

Toggle shoutbox Shoutbox

Luigidel Icon : (Today, 12:08 PM) theres no doubt they have the personnel the coaches and the game scheme so why not talk about the goal of winning
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 12:11 PM) Manish Mehta TheJetsStream

Ray Lewis on @Mark_Sanchez : "All we have to do is look at the film. He struggles a lot when he has to throw a lot.'' #jets #nfl #nyj half a minute ago via web
S-Dubb Icon : (Today, 12:15 PM) I think Mark is ready for the challenge. Their defense aint that good.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 12:17 PM) The thing that worries me is the Ravens front 7. The Jets are going to need to keep them off guard because they will attack the run game. Hope Schotty calls a good game, gets Mark into a groove.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 12:18 PM) The Ravens secondary is mediocre at best, that maybe even generous to say. No Ed Reed
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 12:18 PM) Front 7 got Ray Lewis, Terrell Suggs, Haloti Ngata, Kevin Gregg, Jarrett Johnson. Some good players.
S-Dubb Icon : (Today, 12:19 PM) Their front 7 is very good. No question about it
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 12:19 PM) I don't think its a game we can just run over, the passing game needs to be efficient.
S-Dubb Icon : (Today, 12:19 PM) Their defense as a whole isn't great
S-Dubb Icon : (Today, 12:20 PM) Bengals had success against them through the air. Were going to have to throw on them
S-Dubb Icon : (Today, 12:21 PM) my whole thing is they don't have the same blitzing mentality that Rex had
S-Dubb Icon : (Today, 12:23 PM) I think their secondary can get torched. B. Schott has to call plays without catering to Marks inexperience. Go for the juggler because the only way we win this game is if Mark has a good game. I don't think we'll be able to run as well as we'll like to
S-Dubb Icon : (Today, 12:24 PM) janesports Harbaugh on Ryan: "He’s done a great job there and took them to the championship game last year. He’s proven himself as a great head coach."
SecondHandJets Icon : (Today, 12:36 PM) Wait... their front 7 is good? I'd say average. Ngata is top notch, no question. Ray Lewis is the man, but he's not the same player he was 5 years ago. He doesn't have side line to sideline speed anymore. Suggs has been non existent since he signed his big extension. He's no better than Adelius Thomas, and Thomas is unemployed. Gregg and Johnson are solid players that aren't going to win you a game by themselves.
SecondHandJets Icon : (Today, 12:37 PM) The Ravens defense is slightly better than the Patriots, but their offense is way worse. Those of you that believe that the Ravens are a sleeper SB pick need to calm down.
SecondHandJets Icon : (Today, 12:39 PM) Mangold vs Ngata should be a great battle. Everyone else should be able to handle their assignments and the run should work. Once we get the run going and those safeties creep up, that's when Mark can air it out to BE.
SecondHandJets Icon : (Today, 12:39 PM) Who's covering Dustin? Is Ray Ray going to chase him?
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 12:43 PM) McClain or Landry, I'd imagine?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 12:47 PM) TheJetsStream

Quote of Day by Ray Lewis (on @Revis24): "He's not a machine.He's a simple man.He has 2deal w/everything we're willing 2 bring 2 table" #nfl 19 minutes ago via web
S-Dubb Icon : (Today, 01:20 PM) ok 1 or 2 blurbs from Ray Ray was cute but what's he doing sitting around all day talking about the Jets?
Resize Shouts Area

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

Sources: No Talk Between Jets, Revis

#1 User is offline   J-E-T-S 4417 Icon

  • Pro Bowl
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 494
  • Joined: 12-January 07
  • Gender:Male

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 29 July 2010 - 05:31 PM

With three days until training camp, the New York Jets and Darrelle Revis appear no closer to a new contract than several weeks ago, when the star cornerback last voiced his displeasure with his current deal. It's eerily quiet, with league sources saying Thursday there hasn't been any recent dialogue between the two sides.

A holdout looms as a strong possibility, as the Jets seem intent on letting Revis make the next move. Revis hasn't declared whether he will report to camp in Cortland, N.Y., but he appears to be leaning toward not showing up. Because he's under contract, he would incur more than $16,000 a day in fines.

An 11th-hour solution to the standoff could be a "Band-Aid" contract, a short-term fix similar to the deal that settled Chris Johnson's dispute with the Tennessee Titans. That would mean sweetening Revis' 2010 pay ($1 million) and tabling discussions for a long-term contract until after the season, when perhaps the NFL's labor picture will be clear. Both sides seem open to the idea, but someone needs to pick up the phone.

At this point, a long-term extension is a long shot, with both sides entrenched in their positions. Revis, who believes he was promised a new deal by the Jets, wants to be the highest-paid cornerback in the league. He's seeking $16.5 million per year, which would top the Oakland Raiders' Nnamdi Asomugha.

The Jets say they're willing to do a deal "within reason," but they believe the Asomugha contract is an aberration. They're also reluctant to load the contract with big upfront money even though this is an uncapped year. They're believed to be offering around $12 million a year, but none of it is fully guaranteed, sources said -- meaning it's not guaranteed against injury and skill deterioration.

Based on the so-called reallocation rule, one of the many quirks of the uncapped year, the Jets can't guarantee future base salaries against both skill and injury, seemingly restricting their ability to structure a contract. They want Revis to accept a D'Brickashaw Ferguson-type contract, with little signing bonus and rolling guarantees.

But the feeling in Revis' camp is that the Jets are hiding behind that rule, using it as an alibi to avoid a big signing bonus. Some suspect that owner Woody Johnson has cash-flow issues. But he's not the only owner acting this way. Because of the uncertain labor landscape, other owners are proceeding with caution.

It's a multi-faceted dispute, with no end in sight -- unless they opt for the quick fix. But even that would take some creative negotiating. This much is certain: The Jets need Revis, arguably the main cog in Rex Ryan's top-rated defense. If Revis doesn't show for camp, it would increase the pressure on the Jets. But there would be strings attached for Revis.

If he's a no-show, the $20 million he's due to make in 2011 and 2012 (assuming the team exercises a two-year buyback after the season), would go from guaranteed to non-guaranteed salary. That's risky, but Revis has told friends that he'd be taking a bigger risk by playing for $1 million. If he were to suffer a career-threatening injury this season, it's possible that he'd never see that $20 million anyway.

Another side to the status quo: If Revis plays for $1 million, he'd be the eighth highest-paid defensive back on the Jets, based on 2010 compensation. That's somewhat deceiving because he already has made a handsome $15 million in three years, but it's eye-opening nonetheless.

Meanwhile, rookie cornerback Kyle Wilson, a first-round pick, remained unsigned Thursday as rookies, quarterbacks and injured players reported for pre-camp.
0

#2 User is online   Luigidel Icon

  • Drafted Rookie
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 161
  • Joined: 18-July 10
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Delray Beach, FL
  • Interests:Fighting The Marxist Takeover Of America, Computers, NY Jets

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 29 July 2010 - 06:57 PM

View PostJ-E-T-S 4417, on 29 July 2010 - 05:31 PM, said:

With three days until training camp, the New York Jets and Darrelle Revis appear no closer to a new contract than several weeks ago, when the star cornerback last voiced his displeasure with his current deal. It's eerily quiet, with league sources saying Thursday there hasn't been any recent dialogue between the two sides.

A holdout looms as a strong possibility, as the Jets seem intent on letting Revis make the next move. Revis hasn't declared whether he will report to camp in Cortland, N.Y., but he appears to be leaning toward not showing up. Because he's under contract, he would incur more than $16,000 a day in fines.

An 11th-hour solution to the standoff could be a "Band-Aid" contract, a short-term fix similar to the deal that settled Chris Johnson's dispute with the Tennessee Titans. That would mean sweetening Revis' 2010 pay ($1 million) and tabling discussions for a long-term contract until after the season, when perhaps the NFL's labor picture will be clear. Both sides seem open to the idea, but someone needs to pick up the phone.

At this point, a long-term extension is a long shot, with both sides entrenched in their positions. Revis, who believes he was promised a new deal by the Jets, wants to be the highest-paid cornerback in the league. He's seeking $16.5 million per year, which would top the Oakland Raiders' Nnamdi Asomugha.

The Jets say they're willing to do a deal "within reason," but they believe the Asomugha contract is an aberration. They're also reluctant to load the contract with big upfront money even though this is an uncapped year. They're believed to be offering around $12 million a year, but none of it is fully guaranteed, sources said -- meaning it's not guaranteed against injury and skill deterioration.

Based on the so-called reallocation rule, one of the many quirks of the uncapped year, the Jets can't guarantee future base salaries against both skill and injury, seemingly restricting their ability to structure a contract. They want Revis to accept a D'Brickashaw Ferguson-type contract, with little signing bonus and rolling guarantees.

But the feeling in Revis' camp is that the Jets are hiding behind that rule, using it as an alibi to avoid a big signing bonus. Some suspect that owner Woody Johnson has cash-flow issues. But he's not the only owner acting this way. Because of the uncertain labor landscape, other owners are proceeding with caution.

It's a multi-faceted dispute, with no end in sight -- unless they opt for the quick fix. But even that would take some creative negotiating. This much is certain: The Jets need Revis, arguably the main cog in Rex Ryan's top-rated defense. If Revis doesn't show for camp, it would increase the pressure on the Jets. But there would be strings attached for Revis.

If he's a no-show, the $20 million he's due to make in 2011 and 2012 (assuming the team exercises a two-year buyback after the season), would go from guaranteed to non-guaranteed salary. That's risky, but Revis has told friends that he'd be taking a bigger risk by playing for $1 million. If he were to suffer a career-threatening injury this season, it's possible that he'd never see that $20 million anyway.

Another side to the status quo: If Revis plays for $1 million, he'd be the eighth highest-paid defensive back on the Jets, based on 2010 compensation. That's somewhat deceiving because he already has made a handsome $15 million in three years, but it's eye-opening nonetheless.

Meanwhile, rookie cornerback Kyle Wilson, a first-round pick, remained unsigned Thursday as rookies, quarterbacks and injured players reported for pre-camp.



Revis is going to be signed, calm down guys. Wilson too.
Posted Image
0

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users