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azjetfan Icon : (16 August 2014 - 08:44 PM) Who knows though
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santana Icon : (16 August 2014 - 11:55 PM) Gotta fix that
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:35 PM) Is anyone else as concerned as I am about the secondary?
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:36 PM) I know it's preseason and all but even with Milliner in on the first game we gave up a TD on the first drive to the Colts
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:37 PM) Patterson looked like me out there and Wilson got torched last night
Smedsthejet Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:26 PM) Concerned about the right side of the OLine too - too many penalties and Giacomini wasn't that much better than against the Colts when he was poor
SackExchange71 Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:31 PM) Imo i still think howard is better then giacomini..Wish they never let him walk.Giacomini had alot of flags in seattle also
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:33 AM) Howard recieved a huge contract in Oakland. Way over his actual value.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 10:08 AM) So did we make a trade for a CB yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
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Jenkins: Jets Can Win Without Revis

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 02:29 PM

Darrelle Revis very well might be the best defender in all sports.

That doesn't make him indispensable -- even to one of his most prominent teammates.

New York Jets nose tackle Kris Jenkins reasoned if they could maintain the NFL's top-rated defense without him, then they can do it sans their all-galaxy cornerback.

"You have to understand that this defense did a very good job of getting along without me being there, and me coming back, it's humbled me tremendously," Jenkins told host Michael Kay of ESPN 1050 in New York. "I know this isn't the type of team I can be on and act like the center of attention.

"With Revis, it's the same thing. ... We definitely have the talent to go and keep on achieving our goals if Revis is going to be absent. I would love to see Revis there, but if not we have to keep on fighting."

Revis is contemplating a training-camp holdout in hopes of a more favorable contract. He will make only $1 million this year despite his soaring reputation as the NFL's best cover corner.

Jenkins claimed Dwight Lowery and first-round draft pick Kyle Wilson could compensate for a missing Revis opposite right cornerback Antonio Cromartie, a notion football analyst KC Joyner proposed in June.

Jenkins suffered a season-ending knee injury in Week 6, filling Rex Ryan with dread. But the Jets finished with the No. 1 total defense, scoring defense and pass defense.

Kay also asked Jenkins about the Jets' propensity for trash talking and whether that's courting trouble.

"Honestly, playing football, you can go out there and talk and you can go out there and say nothing. It's still going to be the same type of game," Jenkins said. "A lot of people, when they hear things in the paper or on the air, they really start to think guys are asking for it.

"Seriously, I haven't played a team yet that you've been nice to in the paper and they go out and take it easy on you on Sunday. This is a professional sport. Guys don't really care how we feel."
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 02:37 PM

Revis would lose 20million if he holds out so does this mean tanny will give his 20 million on top of his new contract ? I don't think so. Revis has to play it smart.
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 02:45 PM

I agree and disagree with Kris here. Kris's position and Revis's are totally different and sure we are beastlier with Jenks in there but at the end of the day Rex's scheme kind of puts a band-aid over Kris absence.

However you can't "band-aid" the cornerback position (however Rex is so brillant he would alter his scheme to play with a single high safety) but at the end of the day Revis is more important to us then Jenkins is. Scheme is everything and if we were a team that sits back and plays in coverage shells then we would absolutely need Kris and would feel the effects of his absence, however with Rex it's not like that, it's confusion and congestion. Whether Kris is in there or not. However the reason that is possible is because of Revis. Revis allows to play 8 or 9 in the box if we have to.

So I agree we could win games without Revis, I disagree in saying he's indispencible. It would be tough to go all the way without him. having him on the feild allows us to do so much.

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 02:56 PM

[b]Revis might miss a few days or even a few weeks but I really doubt that Revis would jeopordize his chance to play for a Super Bowl and miss any regular season games....if anyone can get Revis on board it's Rex and I know that when the primetime lights shine on Opening Night for the JETS vs. Ravens that Revis will be at Corner and we will be starting the journey towards the promised land that has avoided us for 42 years...[/b]
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 03:01 PM


[b] Jenkins: Jets Can Win Without Revis?[/b]

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 03:05 PM

of course we can win w/o revis its not like we will won 0 games w/o him and 16 with him. but he gives us a way better chance week in and week out to win
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 04:07 PM

I dont know about how we would do without him. Cro would be solid but we would be weaker than last year in the secondary without Revis. WIlson might be a great player but he will be a rookie and will have growing pains. Lowrey is average and can hold the slot.
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 05:00 PM

Revis is the most important man on the defense, without him we are average. without him the qb can get rid of the ball faster because he has another target to throw to downfield this makes our secondary blitz almost impossible.
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 05:37 PM

[quote name='Luigidel' date='31 July 2010 - 06:00 PM' timestamp='1280613643' post='306675']
Revis is the most important man on the defense, without him we are average. without him the qb can get rid of the ball faster because he has another target to throw to downfield this makes our secondary blitz almost impossible.
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I disagree with this totally.

Other than the qb the line is the most important part on both offense and defense. Revis is great but he can only cover one player. Without line penetration a decent qb can always find a receiver. The Jets were number one in defense without being number one against the pass last year. The Jets wont be as good but they would still be a top ten dense without Revis. Especially with Jenkins back.

I want Revis to play really bad but if he is going to contimue on this road of refusing to play unless he makes a dollar more than Azumanga then I say get rid of him.

No one man is more important thean the rest of the team. I hate to name the Patriots but they became a dynasty without paying their players the highest salaries.

Basically the only way Revis is going to get the kind of money he wants is to play on a shitty team period.There is no way he is going to get the money he wants on a team with so many high caliber players on it.


So it comes down to what he wants most......money..... or chances at championships and getting more recognition and more money through sponsorships.


Honestly the only way you are going to see veterans get paid more is if a rookie salary cap is put in place. The rookies may not like it but they couldnt do a thing if they wanted to play in the NFL.Not to mention it would end this bullshit rookie holdouts. Not a minute played on the field proving themselves and they get pampered. Makes me sick.
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 07:17 PM

[quote name='ROBJETS' date='31 July 2010 - 05:37 PM' timestamp='1280615847' post='306678']
I disagree with this totally.

The Jets wont be as good but they would still be a top ten dense without Revis. Especially with Jenkins back.

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Rob, it sounds like you agree more than disagree with me. Top ten might as well mean average which is what I said originally. You say top ten I say average, are we really that far off from each other? The point is that we need Revis if we are going to be the team that nobody wants to play to quote Rex.
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Posted 01 August 2010 - 10:47 AM

[quote name='S-Dubb' date='31 July 2010 - 03:45 PM' timestamp='1280605505' post='306662']
Rex is so brillant
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