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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Jenkins: Jets Can Win Without Revis

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 02:29 PM

Darrelle Revis very well might be the best defender in all sports.

That doesn't make him indispensable -- even to one of his most prominent teammates.

New York Jets nose tackle Kris Jenkins reasoned if they could maintain the NFL's top-rated defense without him, then they can do it sans their all-galaxy cornerback.

"You have to understand that this defense did a very good job of getting along without me being there, and me coming back, it's humbled me tremendously," Jenkins told host Michael Kay of ESPN 1050 in New York. "I know this isn't the type of team I can be on and act like the center of attention.

"With Revis, it's the same thing. ... We definitely have the talent to go and keep on achieving our goals if Revis is going to be absent. I would love to see Revis there, but if not we have to keep on fighting."

Revis is contemplating a training-camp holdout in hopes of a more favorable contract. He will make only $1 million this year despite his soaring reputation as the NFL's best cover corner.

Jenkins claimed Dwight Lowery and first-round draft pick Kyle Wilson could compensate for a missing Revis opposite right cornerback Antonio Cromartie, a notion football analyst KC Joyner proposed in June.

Jenkins suffered a season-ending knee injury in Week 6, filling Rex Ryan with dread. But the Jets finished with the No. 1 total defense, scoring defense and pass defense.

Kay also asked Jenkins about the Jets' propensity for trash talking and whether that's courting trouble.

"Honestly, playing football, you can go out there and talk and you can go out there and say nothing. It's still going to be the same type of game," Jenkins said. "A lot of people, when they hear things in the paper or on the air, they really start to think guys are asking for it.

"Seriously, I haven't played a team yet that you've been nice to in the paper and they go out and take it easy on you on Sunday. This is a professional sport. Guys don't really care how we feel."
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 02:37 PM

Revis would lose 20million if he holds out so does this mean tanny will give his 20 million on top of his new contract ? I don't think so. Revis has to play it smart.
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 02:45 PM

I agree and disagree with Kris here. Kris's position and Revis's are totally different and sure we are beastlier with Jenks in there but at the end of the day Rex's scheme kind of puts a band-aid over Kris absence.

However you can't "band-aid" the cornerback position (however Rex is so brillant he would alter his scheme to play with a single high safety) but at the end of the day Revis is more important to us then Jenkins is. Scheme is everything and if we were a team that sits back and plays in coverage shells then we would absolutely need Kris and would feel the effects of his absence, however with Rex it's not like that, it's confusion and congestion. Whether Kris is in there or not. However the reason that is possible is because of Revis. Revis allows to play 8 or 9 in the box if we have to.

So I agree we could win games without Revis, I disagree in saying he's indispencible. It would be tough to go all the way without him. having him on the feild allows us to do so much.

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 02:56 PM

[b]Revis might miss a few days or even a few weeks but I really doubt that Revis would jeopordize his chance to play for a Super Bowl and miss any regular season games....if anyone can get Revis on board it's Rex and I know that when the primetime lights shine on Opening Night for the JETS vs. Ravens that Revis will be at Corner and we will be starting the journey towards the promised land that has avoided us for 42 years...[/b]
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 03:01 PM


[b] Jenkins: Jets Can Win Without Revis?[/b]

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 03:05 PM

of course we can win w/o revis its not like we will won 0 games w/o him and 16 with him. but he gives us a way better chance week in and week out to win
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 04:07 PM

I dont know about how we would do without him. Cro would be solid but we would be weaker than last year in the secondary without Revis. WIlson might be a great player but he will be a rookie and will have growing pains. Lowrey is average and can hold the slot.
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 05:00 PM

Revis is the most important man on the defense, without him we are average. without him the qb can get rid of the ball faster because he has another target to throw to downfield this makes our secondary blitz almost impossible.
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 05:37 PM

[quote name='Luigidel' date='31 July 2010 - 06:00 PM' timestamp='1280613643' post='306675']
Revis is the most important man on the defense, without him we are average. without him the qb can get rid of the ball faster because he has another target to throw to downfield this makes our secondary blitz almost impossible.
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I disagree with this totally.

Other than the qb the line is the most important part on both offense and defense. Revis is great but he can only cover one player. Without line penetration a decent qb can always find a receiver. The Jets were number one in defense without being number one against the pass last year. The Jets wont be as good but they would still be a top ten dense without Revis. Especially with Jenkins back.

I want Revis to play really bad but if he is going to contimue on this road of refusing to play unless he makes a dollar more than Azumanga then I say get rid of him.

No one man is more important thean the rest of the team. I hate to name the Patriots but they became a dynasty without paying their players the highest salaries.

Basically the only way Revis is going to get the kind of money he wants is to play on a shitty team period.There is no way he is going to get the money he wants on a team with so many high caliber players on it.


So it comes down to what he wants most......money..... or chances at championships and getting more recognition and more money through sponsorships.


Honestly the only way you are going to see veterans get paid more is if a rookie salary cap is put in place. The rookies may not like it but they couldnt do a thing if they wanted to play in the NFL.Not to mention it would end this bullshit rookie holdouts. Not a minute played on the field proving themselves and they get pampered. Makes me sick.
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 07:17 PM

[quote name='ROBJETS' date='31 July 2010 - 05:37 PM' timestamp='1280615847' post='306678']
I disagree with this totally.

The Jets wont be as good but they would still be a top ten dense without Revis. Especially with Jenkins back.

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Rob, it sounds like you agree more than disagree with me. Top ten might as well mean average which is what I said originally. You say top ten I say average, are we really that far off from each other? The point is that we need Revis if we are going to be the team that nobody wants to play to quote Rex.
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Posted 01 August 2010 - 10:47 AM

[quote name='S-Dubb' date='31 July 2010 - 03:45 PM' timestamp='1280605505' post='306662']
Rex is so brillant
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