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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (23 September 2016 - 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
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Jenkins: Jets Can Win Without Revis

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 02:29 PM

Darrelle Revis very well might be the best defender in all sports.

That doesn't make him indispensable -- even to one of his most prominent teammates.

New York Jets nose tackle Kris Jenkins reasoned if they could maintain the NFL's top-rated defense without him, then they can do it sans their all-galaxy cornerback.

"You have to understand that this defense did a very good job of getting along without me being there, and me coming back, it's humbled me tremendously," Jenkins told host Michael Kay of ESPN 1050 in New York. "I know this isn't the type of team I can be on and act like the center of attention.

"With Revis, it's the same thing. ... We definitely have the talent to go and keep on achieving our goals if Revis is going to be absent. I would love to see Revis there, but if not we have to keep on fighting."

Revis is contemplating a training-camp holdout in hopes of a more favorable contract. He will make only $1 million this year despite his soaring reputation as the NFL's best cover corner.

Jenkins claimed Dwight Lowery and first-round draft pick Kyle Wilson could compensate for a missing Revis opposite right cornerback Antonio Cromartie, a notion football analyst KC Joyner proposed in June.

Jenkins suffered a season-ending knee injury in Week 6, filling Rex Ryan with dread. But the Jets finished with the No. 1 total defense, scoring defense and pass defense.

Kay also asked Jenkins about the Jets' propensity for trash talking and whether that's courting trouble.

"Honestly, playing football, you can go out there and talk and you can go out there and say nothing. It's still going to be the same type of game," Jenkins said. "A lot of people, when they hear things in the paper or on the air, they really start to think guys are asking for it.

"Seriously, I haven't played a team yet that you've been nice to in the paper and they go out and take it easy on you on Sunday. This is a professional sport. Guys don't really care how we feel."
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 02:37 PM

Revis would lose 20million if he holds out so does this mean tanny will give his 20 million on top of his new contract ? I don't think so. Revis has to play it smart.
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 02:45 PM

I agree and disagree with Kris here. Kris's position and Revis's are totally different and sure we are beastlier with Jenks in there but at the end of the day Rex's scheme kind of puts a band-aid over Kris absence.

However you can't "band-aid" the cornerback position (however Rex is so brillant he would alter his scheme to play with a single high safety) but at the end of the day Revis is more important to us then Jenkins is. Scheme is everything and if we were a team that sits back and plays in coverage shells then we would absolutely need Kris and would feel the effects of his absence, however with Rex it's not like that, it's confusion and congestion. Whether Kris is in there or not. However the reason that is possible is because of Revis. Revis allows to play 8 or 9 in the box if we have to.

So I agree we could win games without Revis, I disagree in saying he's indispencible. It would be tough to go all the way without him. having him on the feild allows us to do so much.

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 02:56 PM

[b]Revis might miss a few days or even a few weeks but I really doubt that Revis would jeopordize his chance to play for a Super Bowl and miss any regular season games....if anyone can get Revis on board it's Rex and I know that when the primetime lights shine on Opening Night for the JETS vs. Ravens that Revis will be at Corner and we will be starting the journey towards the promised land that has avoided us for 42 years...[/b]
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 03:01 PM


[b] Jenkins: Jets Can Win Without Revis?[/b]

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 03:05 PM

of course we can win w/o revis its not like we will won 0 games w/o him and 16 with him. but he gives us a way better chance week in and week out to win
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 04:07 PM

I dont know about how we would do without him. Cro would be solid but we would be weaker than last year in the secondary without Revis. WIlson might be a great player but he will be a rookie and will have growing pains. Lowrey is average and can hold the slot.
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 05:00 PM

Revis is the most important man on the defense, without him we are average. without him the qb can get rid of the ball faster because he has another target to throw to downfield this makes our secondary blitz almost impossible.
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 05:37 PM

[quote name='Luigidel' date='31 July 2010 - 06:00 PM' timestamp='1280613643' post='306675']
Revis is the most important man on the defense, without him we are average. without him the qb can get rid of the ball faster because he has another target to throw to downfield this makes our secondary blitz almost impossible.
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I disagree with this totally.

Other than the qb the line is the most important part on both offense and defense. Revis is great but he can only cover one player. Without line penetration a decent qb can always find a receiver. The Jets were number one in defense without being number one against the pass last year. The Jets wont be as good but they would still be a top ten dense without Revis. Especially with Jenkins back.

I want Revis to play really bad but if he is going to contimue on this road of refusing to play unless he makes a dollar more than Azumanga then I say get rid of him.

No one man is more important thean the rest of the team. I hate to name the Patriots but they became a dynasty without paying their players the highest salaries.

Basically the only way Revis is going to get the kind of money he wants is to play on a shitty team period.There is no way he is going to get the money he wants on a team with so many high caliber players on it.


So it comes down to what he wants most......money..... or chances at championships and getting more recognition and more money through sponsorships.


Honestly the only way you are going to see veterans get paid more is if a rookie salary cap is put in place. The rookies may not like it but they couldnt do a thing if they wanted to play in the NFL.Not to mention it would end this bullshit rookie holdouts. Not a minute played on the field proving themselves and they get pampered. Makes me sick.
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 07:17 PM

[quote name='ROBJETS' date='31 July 2010 - 05:37 PM' timestamp='1280615847' post='306678']
I disagree with this totally.

The Jets wont be as good but they would still be a top ten dense without Revis. Especially with Jenkins back.

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Rob, it sounds like you agree more than disagree with me. Top ten might as well mean average which is what I said originally. You say top ten I say average, are we really that far off from each other? The point is that we need Revis if we are going to be the team that nobody wants to play to quote Rex.
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Posted 01 August 2010 - 10:47 AM

[quote name='S-Dubb' date='31 July 2010 - 03:45 PM' timestamp='1280605505' post='306662']
Rex is so brillant
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