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azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:37 PM) Corey Ivy CB
36 Jim Leonhard SS/PR
43 Haruki Nakamura FS
25 Evan Oglesby CB
20 Ed Reed FS
22 Samari Rolle CB
39 Daren Stone FS
41 Frank Walker CB
31 Fabian Washington in 2008
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (20 August 2014 - 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The JETS are #6 in the Forbes List for most franchise value
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The Buffalo Jills are #31 and the Miami Dolphags are #16 respectively
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 07:00 PM) The JETS are worth $1.8 billion
jet-man Icon : (20 August 2014 - 10:03 PM) that's less than the clippers
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 01:07 PM) I'm very excited with the amount of preseason touchdowns the Jets have
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 03:21 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 07:22 PM) Calvin Pryor and Darrin Walls will start tomorrow
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 08:52 PM) The SIMPSONS MARATHON has been on for almost 12 hours...
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 08:57 PM) Sanchez looks so much more confident and better in Chip's offense than he did with us
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 09:50 PM) EVERY SIMPSONS EVER!!!!!
2JBallar01 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:10 AM) Sanchez is looking good for the eagles. Crazy how a good offense and the right system can make you look so much better. When you're put into a situatuon to succeed, magic happens. Happy for Sanchez, i think he needed a change just as much as the Jets did.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:02 AM) Preseason doesn't matter at all
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:10 AM) anyone have a stream for the preseaosn agme by chance?
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:06 PM) Don't read to much into Mark in the preseason. He usually looked good in the preseason even in a Jets uniform.. Big difference from regular season where the 1st string defense is playing 100%.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:09 PM) A lot of 1st stringers are just getting reps in and trying not to get injured. Its only the backups trying to keep or get a job playing hard every down. If preseason qb play meant anything then Matt Simms would be the starting qb of the Jets.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 12:00 AM) In Geno we trust
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 07:23 AM) preseason or not, our offense hasn't looked competent in a while like it does this year. our rushing attack should be very good. Chris Johnson and Chris Ivory could be a dynamic duo
santana Icon : (Today, 10:14 AM) http://youtu.be/2X0H709cJkA
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Posted 01 August 2010 - 10:10 PM

Should have some interesting answers. Me i think it goes all the way back to the dinosaur Al Davis. If he had just passed away 2 years ago then this whole thing would be different.
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Posted 01 August 2010 - 10:12 PM

Trade His Ass
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Posted 01 August 2010 - 10:51 PM

Honestly, I put it on the NFL itself. I really beleive if we had a new CBA in place for the upcoming season, this contract would already be taken care of.

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Posted 01 August 2010 - 11:51 PM

Lets See What We Think On This Forum
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Posted 01 August 2010 - 11:55 PM

It's a lot of factors.

If not for the CBA there wouldn't be so many players looking for new contracts, maybe Revis wouldn't even be worried about it. With the praise he received last season (and I'm putting it lightly with a word like praise, he got his ass licked from all sides) and with a looming deal that could limit his ability to get a better contract, the time is ripe for him to play hardball.

This isn't going to hurt Revis. We can be bitter and whatever else, but we'll all forgive him if he gets a new contract and if he goes somewhere else those fans won't care that he held out on us. Revis, long term, is in a good spot.
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Exterminate all rational thought, that is the conclusion I have come to
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 12:01 AM

Can't really blame Al Davis/Aso deal. He just so happened to be the highest paid corner. The deal they would be looking at getting more than would be whoever is highest paid. Would it make negotiations easier with a lower figure? Absolutely. But, it still wouldn't matter much because isn't the main problem with Revis' camp the guaranteed money?
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 12:40 AM

I wounder what loop hole they will pull out of the hat. when they pay him top money.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 02:50 AM

I'm leaning more towards option A. The reality is EVERYONE and their momma has told Revis he's the best. He wants to get paid like the best. Nnamdi got paid 15. Revis wants 15.1. Find a way, get it done.

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 02:54 AM

Al Davis.

Revis wants to be paid like the best and Al Davis destroyed the market for DB's by 3M more a year. That is just asinine. Al Davis is definitely a huge culprit in all of this.

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 04:10 AM

[quote name='S-Dubb' date='02 August 2010 - 02:50 AM' timestamp='1280735404' post='306799']
I'm leaning more towards option A. The reality is EVERYONE and their momma has told Revis he's the best. He wants to get paid like the best. Nnamdi got paid 15. Revis wants 15.1. Find a way, get it done.

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Since I heard he is a holdout Ive been saying Trade His Ass, Ive come down a notch to Stand Firm. This is not a good precedent to set. First it was Chris Johnson In Tennessee, now revis. Will it be the new trend in sports for athletes who are under contract to holdout for more money like this?
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 08:46 AM

To a Billionaire 15 mil is like 150 bucks so it won't be a trend.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 09:16 AM

Somewhere in the middle, but the Jets need to offer him fully guaranteed money if they want him to sign. Hes not going to take a Brick type deal where he isn't guaranteed money. I would not give him $16 mil a year, but IDK if that is what Revis is holding out for, I think its all about the guaranteed money.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 09:26 AM

I'm not a fan of all this contract BS that's been going on. I've always felt that if you negotiate a contract, you honor it to the end. I know Revis has played at a level that would bring in more money had he been a FA, but he's got 3 years left on his current deal. Everyone says this is a business, but the owners are getting screwed pretty bad on this. You sign a guy like Gholston, pay him top dollar and get basically NOTHING in return. Cant get your money back, its just too bad because the contract says so. Then you sign a guy like Revis, which appears to be a steal for getting a great player at a good price (yes, maybe this years BASE salary is low, but the total value of the deal was pretty big), and he holds out mid contract. Then on top of this you have guys like Haynesworth that gets paid a RIDICULOUS amount of money, takes it to the bank and then STILL holds out because he doesn't like the scheme. Players have basically screwed themselves here. They've shown that regardless of what you give them, they'll ultimately never be satisfied, and giving them the world doesn't guarantee you get anything back. I don't blame the Jets for not getting Revis signed yet. I'm POSITIVE they gave him offers that were more incentive-laden than his current deal, but its just not his "dream-scenario" so he's rejecting everything. I'm seriously starting to lose respect for Revis, because he's turning out to be just another one of the greedy clowns.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 09:41 AM

revis is to blame. he is acting liek an ass. he has 2 years on his deal left and he wants more money then a guy who got a crazy high 3 year deal form one of the worst teams in the past 20 years.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 09:42 AM

trade him for a CB and a 1st round pick and be done with it
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 09:50 AM

Give him 35 mil guaranteed for the last 2 yrs than negotiate a new contract after the 2 yrs are expired . thats 17.5 /yr . than signed him for 6 yrs at 7 mil /yr.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 09:54 AM

Trading Revis would be stupid, you won't find a CB of his skills. Lets go into the season with SB expectations with Cromartie and Wilson as the starting CBs, yay.... No, Revis is a core player and they need to get something done.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 09:59 AM

[quote name='Goodfellaz' date='02 August 2010 - 09:26 AM' timestamp='1280759169' post='306812']
I'm not a fan of all this contract BS that's been going on. I've always felt that if you negotiate a contract, you honor it to the end. I know Revis has played at a level that would bring in more money had he been a FA, but he's got 3 years left on his current deal. Everyone says this is a business, but the owners are getting screwed pretty bad on this. You sign a guy like Gholston, pay him top dollar and get basically NOTHING in return. Cant get your money back, its just too bad because the contract says so. Then you sign a guy like Revis, which appears to be a steal for getting a great player at a good price (yes, maybe this years BASE salary is low, but the total value of the deal was pretty big), and he holds out mid contract. Then on top of this you have guys like Haynesworth that gets paid a RIDICULOUS amount of money, takes it to the bank and then STILL holds out because he doesn't like the scheme. Players have basically screwed themselves here. They've shown that regardless of what you give them, they'll ultimately never be satisfied, and giving them the world doesn't guarantee you get anything back. I don't blame the Jets for not getting Revis signed yet. I'm POSITIVE they gave him offers that were more incentive-laden than his current deal, but its just not his "dream-scenario" so he's rejecting everything. I'm seriously starting to lose respect for Revis, because he's turning out to be just another one of the greedy clowns.
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"Really well said "but the track record for both owners and players are pretty sad .who writes these rules and why and who has the upper hand and all the leverage ? answer these question and than you can begin to understand that we fans are being played.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 10:13 AM

I think Option A would be viable had Revis had any leverage, which he doesn't. He's under contract for 3 years so to succumb to his demands for Tanny would be dumb. The Jets in this situation literally hold all the cards. On top of that, giving a MAX deal the year before a new CBA is struck is equivalent to cap suicide and has the potential to cripple our franchise for half a decade. Tanny wouldn't do that either. I really think the Jets are prepared to let this drag out (I posted the day of the draft that Wilson was insurance in case Revis got crazy) but they are hoping that it's Option B.

I doubt the Jets are thinking about trades right now. Revis is worth at least 2 #1s and a #2 but 1st round picks are going to be even more overvalued going further since now there's a rookie pay scale and teams have a lot less $$$ at risk. Getting .50 on the $1 for him won't prove anything. I say stand pat, he needs the money and he loves football, he'll come back to the negotiating table with hat in hand.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 10:26 AM

[quote name='Goodfellaz' date='02 August 2010 - 07:26 AM' timestamp='1280759169' post='306812']
I'm not a fan of all this contract BS that's been going on. I've always felt that if you negotiate a contract, you honor it to the end. I know Revis has played at a level that would bring in more money had he been a FA, but he's got 3 years left on his current deal. Everyone says this is a business, but the owners are getting screwed pretty bad on this. You sign a guy like Gholston, pay him top dollar and get basically NOTHING in return. Cant get your money back, its just too bad because the contract says so. Then you sign a guy like Revis, which appears to be a steal for getting a great player at a good price (yes, maybe this years BASE salary is low, but the total value of the deal was pretty big), and he holds out mid contract. Then on top of this you have guys like Haynesworth that gets paid a RIDICULOUS amount of money, takes it to the bank and then STILL holds out because he doesn't like the scheme. Players have basically screwed themselves here. They've shown that regardless of what you give them, they'll ultimately never be satisfied, and giving them the world doesn't guarantee you get anything back. I don't blame the Jets for not getting Revis signed yet. I'm POSITIVE they gave him offers that were more incentive-laden than his current deal, but its just not his "dream-scenario" so he's rejecting everything. I'm seriously starting to lose respect for Revis, because he's turning out to be just another one of the greedy clowns.
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i got to agree its a really well written post. i think that is players can hold out, then teams should be able to renig on a contract and take back money for players not performing well
Get it done MT
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