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JETS LACK OF REDZONE OFFENSE STILL CURSING THE DEFENSE
SokeSleezy Icon : (Yesterday, 10:46 PM) Geno's needs to work on his accuracy,Stafford gonna kill us next week smh
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:46 PM) Yeah gonna go with a good old f*** Geno this week. He is still playing better than last year though
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:46 PM) People saying Sanchez sucks keep in mind he never had a chance to play in morningwegs system. He was held back by shottenheimer
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:47 PM) This team will never have a franchise QB. We can't draft them and when we sign or trade for them, they're past their primes.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) well
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) Because we destoy any promise in our young QBs with our elite offensive support talent.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) TIME TO CHANGE THE DIAPER
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) another game next week
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) 3-0 with Sanchez? Oh god...we've gone there already?
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:49 PM) jets need more talent on O
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:49 PM) and some god damn DBs
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:49 PM) Morninweg's system is get the offense going then throw a monkey wrench into things by putting the backup QB in there and f***ing up the offense's rhythm.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:50 PM) Yes I went there. Geno spots these teams 7-10 points weekly and has turned the ball in the redzone 3 games in a row. If not for 2 dropped ints geno would have 4 picks. Dude sucks at best
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:51 PM) Then we got Chris ivory running like marshawn lynch out there and they sit him on the bench the whole fourth quarter
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:52 PM) I'd like to use the same excuse I used for Sanchez. QB can't really do shit when your best WR would be a #3 if he was lucky on any other team
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:52 PM) yeah but sanchez was shell shcoked
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:52 PM) jets werent fixing him
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) Geno will be to after another year or two of this shit.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) What's kerleys contract like
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) because if he's underpaid I don't see him sticking around
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:54 PM) he only looks good because our O is so bad.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:54 PM) I bet a lot of teams have their eye on him
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:56 PM) Decker doesn't need to play until he is completely healthy
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:58 PM) FIRE IDZIK
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:08 PM) How big was the Sheldon Richardson fumble recovery not being a TD. We quickly went three and out after that
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:43 PM) Idzik better not be stingy this offseason and address the biggest issues we have WR and Secondary
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:47 PM) King mo says he's ok, injury is minor
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 09:21 AM) As a guy who has been on this site since its inception and is still not a moderator which I guess is cause I'm not part of the rat pack who runs this joint I think GENO should still be the starter.
mgjetman Icon : (Today, 10:19 AM) We still could have won this game with the bad calls. Geno just sucks. All the pick six's, missing wide open receivers, bad throws when they are fought. Stupid trick plays because they don't trust him.
santana Icon : (Today, 10:31 AM) I don't get his decision making
santana Icon : (Today, 10:32 AM) There were another 2-3 ints the bears were gifted but were dropped
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:22 AM) f***
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:22 AM) I had a blast at the game... just sucks we lost
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:22 AM) 1-3 when I go se them
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:32 AM) Refs fucked up the fumble for a TD. by calling it down the first time everyone in the stadium saw it as a fumble
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:33 AM) they need to just let them plays play out because they now look at every turnover
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:33 AM) If hes down they could just overturn it on the replay
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:33 AM) f*** Holmes to
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 12:22 PM) gg2003 you want to be a mod?
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 12:22 PM) You have to go through your initiation
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 12:43 PM) Gg03 would be a terrif
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 12:43 PM) what is the "initiation"
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 12:47 PM) :zz:
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 12:53 PM) and no I will not say that Idzik needs to be canned cause he doesn't
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 12:54 PM) he just needs to find talent at the CB and WR positions while also improving in positions that are currently our strengths like DL and OL
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>>>>>>>> Darrelle Revis Discussion <<<<<<<<

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Posted 01 August 2010 - 10:10 PM

Should have some interesting answers. Me i think it goes all the way back to the dinosaur Al Davis. If he had just passed away 2 years ago then this whole thing would be different.
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Posted 01 August 2010 - 10:12 PM

Trade His Ass
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Posted 01 August 2010 - 10:51 PM

Honestly, I put it on the NFL itself. I really beleive if we had a new CBA in place for the upcoming season, this contract would already be taken care of.

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Posted 01 August 2010 - 11:51 PM

Lets See What We Think On This Forum
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Posted 01 August 2010 - 11:55 PM

It's a lot of factors.

If not for the CBA there wouldn't be so many players looking for new contracts, maybe Revis wouldn't even be worried about it. With the praise he received last season (and I'm putting it lightly with a word like praise, he got his ass licked from all sides) and with a looming deal that could limit his ability to get a better contract, the time is ripe for him to play hardball.

This isn't going to hurt Revis. We can be bitter and whatever else, but we'll all forgive him if he gets a new contract and if he goes somewhere else those fans won't care that he held out on us. Revis, long term, is in a good spot.
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Exterminate all rational thought, that is the conclusion I have come to
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 12:01 AM

Can't really blame Al Davis/Aso deal. He just so happened to be the highest paid corner. The deal they would be looking at getting more than would be whoever is highest paid. Would it make negotiations easier with a lower figure? Absolutely. But, it still wouldn't matter much because isn't the main problem with Revis' camp the guaranteed money?
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 12:40 AM

I wounder what loop hole they will pull out of the hat. when they pay him top money.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 02:50 AM

I'm leaning more towards option A. The reality is EVERYONE and their momma has told Revis he's the best. He wants to get paid like the best. Nnamdi got paid 15. Revis wants 15.1. Find a way, get it done.

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 02:54 AM

Al Davis.

Revis wants to be paid like the best and Al Davis destroyed the market for DB's by 3M more a year. That is just asinine. Al Davis is definitely a huge culprit in all of this.

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 04:10 AM

[quote name='S-Dubb' date='02 August 2010 - 02:50 AM' timestamp='1280735404' post='306799']
I'm leaning more towards option A. The reality is EVERYONE and their momma has told Revis he's the best. He wants to get paid like the best. Nnamdi got paid 15. Revis wants 15.1. Find a way, get it done.

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Since I heard he is a holdout Ive been saying Trade His Ass, Ive come down a notch to Stand Firm. This is not a good precedent to set. First it was Chris Johnson In Tennessee, now revis. Will it be the new trend in sports for athletes who are under contract to holdout for more money like this?
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 08:46 AM

To a Billionaire 15 mil is like 150 bucks so it won't be a trend.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 09:16 AM

Somewhere in the middle, but the Jets need to offer him fully guaranteed money if they want him to sign. Hes not going to take a Brick type deal where he isn't guaranteed money. I would not give him $16 mil a year, but IDK if that is what Revis is holding out for, I think its all about the guaranteed money.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 09:26 AM

I'm not a fan of all this contract BS that's been going on. I've always felt that if you negotiate a contract, you honor it to the end. I know Revis has played at a level that would bring in more money had he been a FA, but he's got 3 years left on his current deal. Everyone says this is a business, but the owners are getting screwed pretty bad on this. You sign a guy like Gholston, pay him top dollar and get basically NOTHING in return. Cant get your money back, its just too bad because the contract says so. Then you sign a guy like Revis, which appears to be a steal for getting a great player at a good price (yes, maybe this years BASE salary is low, but the total value of the deal was pretty big), and he holds out mid contract. Then on top of this you have guys like Haynesworth that gets paid a RIDICULOUS amount of money, takes it to the bank and then STILL holds out because he doesn't like the scheme. Players have basically screwed themselves here. They've shown that regardless of what you give them, they'll ultimately never be satisfied, and giving them the world doesn't guarantee you get anything back. I don't blame the Jets for not getting Revis signed yet. I'm POSITIVE they gave him offers that were more incentive-laden than his current deal, but its just not his "dream-scenario" so he's rejecting everything. I'm seriously starting to lose respect for Revis, because he's turning out to be just another one of the greedy clowns.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 09:41 AM

revis is to blame. he is acting liek an ass. he has 2 years on his deal left and he wants more money then a guy who got a crazy high 3 year deal form one of the worst teams in the past 20 years.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 09:42 AM

trade him for a CB and a 1st round pick and be done with it
Get it done MT
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 09:50 AM

Give him 35 mil guaranteed for the last 2 yrs than negotiate a new contract after the 2 yrs are expired . thats 17.5 /yr . than signed him for 6 yrs at 7 mil /yr.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 09:54 AM

Trading Revis would be stupid, you won't find a CB of his skills. Lets go into the season with SB expectations with Cromartie and Wilson as the starting CBs, yay.... No, Revis is a core player and they need to get something done.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 09:59 AM

[quote name='Goodfellaz' date='02 August 2010 - 09:26 AM' timestamp='1280759169' post='306812']
I'm not a fan of all this contract BS that's been going on. I've always felt that if you negotiate a contract, you honor it to the end. I know Revis has played at a level that would bring in more money had he been a FA, but he's got 3 years left on his current deal. Everyone says this is a business, but the owners are getting screwed pretty bad on this. You sign a guy like Gholston, pay him top dollar and get basically NOTHING in return. Cant get your money back, its just too bad because the contract says so. Then you sign a guy like Revis, which appears to be a steal for getting a great player at a good price (yes, maybe this years BASE salary is low, but the total value of the deal was pretty big), and he holds out mid contract. Then on top of this you have guys like Haynesworth that gets paid a RIDICULOUS amount of money, takes it to the bank and then STILL holds out because he doesn't like the scheme. Players have basically screwed themselves here. They've shown that regardless of what you give them, they'll ultimately never be satisfied, and giving them the world doesn't guarantee you get anything back. I don't blame the Jets for not getting Revis signed yet. I'm POSITIVE they gave him offers that were more incentive-laden than his current deal, but its just not his "dream-scenario" so he's rejecting everything. I'm seriously starting to lose respect for Revis, because he's turning out to be just another one of the greedy clowns.
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"Really well said "but the track record for both owners and players are pretty sad .who writes these rules and why and who has the upper hand and all the leverage ? answer these question and than you can begin to understand that we fans are being played.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 10:13 AM

I think Option A would be viable had Revis had any leverage, which he doesn't. He's under contract for 3 years so to succumb to his demands for Tanny would be dumb. The Jets in this situation literally hold all the cards. On top of that, giving a MAX deal the year before a new CBA is struck is equivalent to cap suicide and has the potential to cripple our franchise for half a decade. Tanny wouldn't do that either. I really think the Jets are prepared to let this drag out (I posted the day of the draft that Wilson was insurance in case Revis got crazy) but they are hoping that it's Option B.

I doubt the Jets are thinking about trades right now. Revis is worth at least 2 #1s and a #2 but 1st round picks are going to be even more overvalued going further since now there's a rookie pay scale and teams have a lot less $$$ at risk. Getting .50 on the $1 for him won't prove anything. I say stand pat, he needs the money and he loves football, he'll come back to the negotiating table with hat in hand.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 10:26 AM

[quote name='Goodfellaz' date='02 August 2010 - 07:26 AM' timestamp='1280759169' post='306812']
I'm not a fan of all this contract BS that's been going on. I've always felt that if you negotiate a contract, you honor it to the end. I know Revis has played at a level that would bring in more money had he been a FA, but he's got 3 years left on his current deal. Everyone says this is a business, but the owners are getting screwed pretty bad on this. You sign a guy like Gholston, pay him top dollar and get basically NOTHING in return. Cant get your money back, its just too bad because the contract says so. Then you sign a guy like Revis, which appears to be a steal for getting a great player at a good price (yes, maybe this years BASE salary is low, but the total value of the deal was pretty big), and he holds out mid contract. Then on top of this you have guys like Haynesworth that gets paid a RIDICULOUS amount of money, takes it to the bank and then STILL holds out because he doesn't like the scheme. Players have basically screwed themselves here. They've shown that regardless of what you give them, they'll ultimately never be satisfied, and giving them the world doesn't guarantee you get anything back. I don't blame the Jets for not getting Revis signed yet. I'm POSITIVE they gave him offers that were more incentive-laden than his current deal, but its just not his "dream-scenario" so he's rejecting everything. I'm seriously starting to lose respect for Revis, because he's turning out to be just another one of the greedy clowns.
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i got to agree its a really well written post. i think that is players can hold out, then teams should be able to renig on a contract and take back money for players not performing well
Get it done MT
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