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ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:17 PM) Look at all the first round top qb draft pick busts over the years. Even most of the analysts arent sure about any of the qbs this year
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:17 PM) I can not believe u could post such a thing about THE DUCK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 05:17 PM) I'll be more excited if Idzik was fired. I'm interested to see who our next HC is too
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:19 PM) Bill cowher and THE DUCK
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:20 PM) FIGHT in the Giants rams game
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:20 PM) FIGHT FIGHT TIGHT
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:20 PM) FIGHT
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:20 PM) FIGHT
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:20 PM) !!!!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:20 PM) Leaf , Russell, Harrington,Young, Carr....... All picked with the first 3 picks
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:22 PM) Its all hit of miss
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:24 PM) Yeah and thats what Im saying. So you changed your tune now?
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:25 PM) No one believes any of the qbs coming out this year is NFL ready
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 05:25 PM) Talk about all the recent QBs that were taken and have done well
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 05:26 PM) not true, some believe in the QBs this year. Some don't.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:26 PM) NO
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:26 PM) SUCK FOR THE DUCK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 05:27 PM) I've seen tweets from NFL people that think Winston's skills are NFL ready. Has maturity issues though
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:27 PM) Yeah but most of those years there more qbs that were thought to be NFL ready. The last few years hasnt been that way
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:28 PM) Its hard to go against Winston
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 05:28 PM) I rather have a high pick regardless, even if you trade back, it's valuable.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:28 PM) the guy has not lost a game in 2 years as a starter
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:28 PM) Trade with the redskins
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:29 PM) Maybe they will give us 3 1st round pikcs
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:29 PM) picks
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:29 PM) Heck I think Maniel will be a huge bust. I actually hope he is because he was a major dickhead in college acting like he was the next Brady or Peyton Manning
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 05:29 PM) I'm no QB expert, but I think Winston shows a lot of ability to be a franchise QB. Guy has amazing pocket presence for a college QB and when the game is on the line he always delivers. He is very talented as well.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:29 PM) Manziel
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:32 PM) I didnt see any of his so I cant say. I usually only watch Pac 12 games
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:35 PM) My problem with Mariota is that he has accuracy issues. Look at the las time we picked a qb with Accuracy issues didnt work out that well
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:37 PM) And I wasn't really impressed with Sanchez looking much better this year. His accuracy is finally NFL average but once again like pretty much every year he has more turnovers than tds
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:38 PM) 12 passing tds 1 rushing td 10interceptions and 7 fumbles 4 of them lost so he has 13 tds and 14 turnovers total
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:39 PM) No chance of him taking Foles job
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:41 PM) though he might have a shot getting a job on a team that needs a td with his improved accuracy. He was better in the Redzone this year. best of his career. No tunovers in the redzone. The first time in his career
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:41 PM) meant needs a qb
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:43 PM) I wish we could keep harvin but he is definitely gone. No way the team is going to pay him what he wants with so many needs. Hope they pay Richardson though
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:46 PM) We need to upgrade almost the whole Oline and Mangold is getting old so we need to start looking for a center soon. he is still damn good at blocking but he never pulls like he used to on running plays
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:48 PM) Especially with him having to deal with that big bastard Wilfork twice a year.
santana Icon : (Today, 05:52 PM) Keenum played better than any jet qb this year
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 06:25 PM) Rams coming back 17 unanswered points 27-20 Giants
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 06:39 PM) Ok im going to say it
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 06:40 PM) ODB is the 3rd best WR in the NFL already
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 06:40 PM) Eagles eliminated from playoffs
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 06:40 PM) After Megatron and Dez
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 07:00 PM) We need fireman ed back
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>>>>>>>> Darrelle Revis Discussion <<<<<<<<

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 10:28 AM

Option A.....I dont know that Revis is making a statement here. I hope not, but it really looks that way....

Just as usual, when fans are getting hyped for the season....this shit happens....

Maybe the fans should boycott the NFL? We pay way to much to watch these rich fuckers. Jerseys and gear costs a ton....I think we should be the one that is bitchin about money....
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 11:08 AM

[quote name='Jetsfan0099' date='02 August 2010 - 03:54 PM' timestamp='1280760844' post='306823']
Trading Revis would be stupid, you won't find a CB of his skills. Lets go into the season with SB expectations with Cromartie and Wilson as the starting CBs, yay.... No, Revis is a core player and they need to get something done.
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Totally agree. I know they're not nice and show some of the selfishness of players nowadays, but holdouts have become part and parcel of the NFL so as fans we shouldn't ever be gobsmacked at player's who decide they're deal is not good enough and decide to sit out.
I've only been a Jets fan less than a decade, but during that time it has often been a painful experience. In no way, shape or form do I want to see the Jets lose a player like Revis, who makes the team that much better.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 12:06 PM

By the way, there isn't any other team that will pay him $16M/y for anything more then 3 or 4 seasons, and he wants longer then that. Trading him wouldn't solve a damn thing, and we would lose out on the best player on our team.

We are NOT trading him.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 12:12 PM

None of the above...and all of the above. It just isn't that simple...the situation and circumstances are to blame.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 12:41 PM

[quote name='S-Dubb' date='02 August 2010 - 03:54 AM' timestamp='1280735641' post='306800']
Al Davis.

Revis wants to be paid like the best and Al Davis destroyed the market for DB's by 3M more a year. That is just asinine. Al Davis is definitely a huge culprit in all of this.

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Aso's deal was a THREE YEAR deal. You don't pay someone that type of money over a 5 or 6 year deal.

This is NOT because Davis or Aso. This is because of Revis's inability to grasp that and his mindset that he MUST be the highest paid player at the league.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 12:55 PM

Al Davis? Bahahahaha!

Clearly its the Jets.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 01:08 PM

The thing about it is in a way we as fans created the monster by christening him Revis Island. We made him believe he was the best in the business and he is, but the way he's going about it is completely wrong. This is what's wrong with the NFL these days, players don't play for the love of the game anymore, they do it to boost their bank accounts IMO. You have to wonder how much of this is coming from Revis himself, all the stuff we've heard so far is from agents and his handlers. I believe we will get him signed before the season starts, but somebody's got to budge. Revis right now is like a kid who pouts because he didn't get the toy he wanted, but if we cave and give him what he wants, you lose respect for the organization for giving in to a spoiled child because that's what Revis is acting like.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 01:11 PM

[quote name='Jetsman05' date='02 August 2010 - 10:06 AM' timestamp='1280768814' post='306842']
By the way, there isn't any other team that will pay him $16M/y for anything more then 3 or 4 seasons, and he wants longer then that. Trading him wouldn't solve a damn thing, and we would lose out on the best player on our team.

We are NOT trading him.
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It would solve the issue for us. he would just become somebody else's issue. At this point (yes i know he is the best CB in the league) i'd take a #1 CB, a 1st rounder and a 4th rounder. Then we can pay cromartie and use him and our other CB we traded for and wilson in the slot. also we can use the extra picks becuase we always trade them away. with the money saved we can sign mangold and harris and BE and holmes probably.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 01:23 PM

[quote name='Luigidel' date='02 August 2010 - 05:10 AM' timestamp='1280740258' post='306805']
Since I heard he is a holdout Ive been saying Trade His Ass, Ive come down a notch to Stand Firm. This is not a good precedent to set. First it was Chris Johnson In Tennessee, now revis. Will it be the new trend in sports for athletes who are under contract to holdout for more money like this?
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Luigi where you been bud?, this kinda stuff isn't new. This has been happenin for years now.

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 01:28 PM

[quote name='Jetsman05' date='02 August 2010 - 01:41 PM' timestamp='1280770872' post='306845']
Aso's deal was a THREE YEAR deal. You don't pay someone that type of money over a 5 or 6 year deal.

This is NOT because Davis or Aso. This is because of Revis's inability to grasp that and his mindset that he MUST be the highest paid player at the league.
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Had Al Davis not drivin up the market on Aso Revis would be signed and everything would be all warm and fuzzy.

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 01:53 PM

[quote name='S-Dubb' date='02 August 2010 - 02:28 PM' timestamp='1280773725' post='306852']
Had Al Davis not drivin up the market on Aso Revis would be signed and everything would be all warm and fuzzy.

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They had to sign him for more then he was worth because of it being Oakland. They needed to overpay. It was only a 3-year deal for that reason.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 01:58 PM

in all fairness johnson took a smal raise for this seaosn and was happy. revis seems hell bent on getting 150 million or nothing.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 01:58 PM

[quote name='S-Dubb' date='02 August 2010 - 01:23 PM' timestamp='1280773399' post='306850']
Luigi where you been bud?, this kinda stuff isn't new. This has been happenin for years now.

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I cant think of anyone else that did this
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 02:16 PM

[quote name='Luigidel' date='02 August 2010 - 02:58 PM' timestamp='1280775512' post='306864']
I cant think of anyone else that did this
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Holding out is something that's been happing in sports for years now. DeMarcus Ware did it not to long ago. I can't think off hand but it seems every there is always a few players doing this

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 03:05 PM

[quote name='S-Dubb' date='02 August 2010 - 02:16 PM' timestamp='1280776598' post='306867']
Holding out is something that's been happing in sports for years now. DeMarcus Ware did it not to long ago. I can't think off hand but it seems every there is always a few players doing this

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Ware was under contract and didnt show up to camp?
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 04:50 PM


[b][url="http://blog.newyorkjets.com/2010/08/02/woody-johnson-im-open-to-visiting-revis/"] Woody Johnson: ‘I’m Open’ to Visiting Revis [/url][/b]
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Calling Darrelle Revis “maybe the best player we have,” Jets owner Woody Johnson offered to meet with the star cornerback, who’s opened training camp as a holdout for the second time in four NFL summers.

“The lines of communication are open. I’m open,” said Johnson. “If Darrelle wants me to visit him, I’ll go down and see him — wherever he is — and talk to him and his family and express my feelings about him.”

Revis, who is under contract, believes he should get a contract that makes him the game’s highest-paid corner. Back in February 2009, the Raiders reportedly signed CB Nnamdi Asomugha to a three-year contract worth $45.3 million, including $28.5 million guaranteed.

“The sticking point is total compensation,” Johnson said of his club’s negotiations with Revis. “We haven’t talked about any of those other issues. We’d be happy to do it because I think we’re going to be very flexible.”

The Jets don’t discuss contract numbers publicly, but they say Revis has outworked his current deal and they want to come up with a solution that will work for both sides.

“We know how good of a player Darrelle is. … We drafted him, so he’s our guy,” Johnson said. “We want to give him something that he’s comfortable with but also something the team is comfortable with — make it a two-sided deal.”

Johnson, very confident in GM Mike Tannenbaum, who in June signed a contract extension, will rely on Mike T to do what’s best for the organization.

“I hired him and extended him because I think he has very good judgment,” Johnson said. “I’m not going to pose my judgment on him, saying, ‘Well, I don’t like this deal,’ ‘I like this deal.’ If he comes to me with a recommendation and says, ‘Woody, I think this is fair for us and I think this is a good deal for Revis,’ then we’ll do it today. We’ll do it this afternoon.”


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Posted 02 August 2010 - 04:53 PM

Hey, Classy stuff Woody. Not very many owner would say or do something like this. Great stuff Wood!

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 05:16 PM

Out of the three available in the poll I chose Revis because he is the one who has decided to hold out. He's supposedly been offered plenty of deals so management are obviously working on it. But - as has been pointed out - they are constrained by the CBA and by the looming threat of a lockout next season, so their hands are somewhat tied. The deal will get done eventually though, and then it will be back to happy families.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 05:41 PM

gotta love that. even the owner is willing to go out of his way to help in this dispute. seems liek eveyrone is tryign their best to make this happen except revis
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 05:41 PM

It's all Revis. No doubt in my mind. He knows what's going on with the CBA and he's STILL acting like a punk. I remember two years ago when he went out and let his play do the talking for him.
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