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MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
santana Icon : (24 April 2015 - 11:32 PM) TEH WIZ
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:57 AM) Teh Suarez
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:00 AM) Until next time fellas!
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:19 PM) Helloooooooooo
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:19 PM) Bueller
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:33 PM) Manish says the Jets should trade down and draft Andrus Peat round 1
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 04:39 PM) Even an idiot can say something that's right every now and then
santana Icon : (Today, 08:08 PM) THE CAPS
santana Icon : (Today, 08:28 PM) RIOT
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 08:37 PM) Missouri edge rusher Shane Ray was arrested Monday morning for possession of marijuana in Cooper County, Missouri, Brandon Kiley of KTGR in Columbia, Missouri reports.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 10:28 AM

Option A.....I dont know that Revis is making a statement here. I hope not, but it really looks that way....

Just as usual, when fans are getting hyped for the season....this shit happens....

Maybe the fans should boycott the NFL? We pay way to much to watch these rich fuckers. Jerseys and gear costs a ton....I think we should be the one that is bitchin about money....
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 11:08 AM

[quote name='Jetsfan0099' date='02 August 2010 - 03:54 PM' timestamp='1280760844' post='306823']
Trading Revis would be stupid, you won't find a CB of his skills. Lets go into the season with SB expectations with Cromartie and Wilson as the starting CBs, yay.... No, Revis is a core player and they need to get something done.
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Totally agree. I know they're not nice and show some of the selfishness of players nowadays, but holdouts have become part and parcel of the NFL so as fans we shouldn't ever be gobsmacked at player's who decide they're deal is not good enough and decide to sit out.
I've only been a Jets fan less than a decade, but during that time it has often been a painful experience. In no way, shape or form do I want to see the Jets lose a player like Revis, who makes the team that much better.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 12:06 PM

By the way, there isn't any other team that will pay him $16M/y for anything more then 3 or 4 seasons, and he wants longer then that. Trading him wouldn't solve a damn thing, and we would lose out on the best player on our team.

We are NOT trading him.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 12:12 PM

None of the above...and all of the above. It just isn't that simple...the situation and circumstances are to blame.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 12:41 PM

[quote name='S-Dubb' date='02 August 2010 - 03:54 AM' timestamp='1280735641' post='306800']
Al Davis.

Revis wants to be paid like the best and Al Davis destroyed the market for DB's by 3M more a year. That is just asinine. Al Davis is definitely a huge culprit in all of this.

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Aso's deal was a THREE YEAR deal. You don't pay someone that type of money over a 5 or 6 year deal.

This is NOT because Davis or Aso. This is because of Revis's inability to grasp that and his mindset that he MUST be the highest paid player at the league.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 12:55 PM

Al Davis? Bahahahaha!

Clearly its the Jets.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 01:08 PM

The thing about it is in a way we as fans created the monster by christening him Revis Island. We made him believe he was the best in the business and he is, but the way he's going about it is completely wrong. This is what's wrong with the NFL these days, players don't play for the love of the game anymore, they do it to boost their bank accounts IMO. You have to wonder how much of this is coming from Revis himself, all the stuff we've heard so far is from agents and his handlers. I believe we will get him signed before the season starts, but somebody's got to budge. Revis right now is like a kid who pouts because he didn't get the toy he wanted, but if we cave and give him what he wants, you lose respect for the organization for giving in to a spoiled child because that's what Revis is acting like.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 01:11 PM

[quote name='Jetsman05' date='02 August 2010 - 10:06 AM' timestamp='1280768814' post='306842']
By the way, there isn't any other team that will pay him $16M/y for anything more then 3 or 4 seasons, and he wants longer then that. Trading him wouldn't solve a damn thing, and we would lose out on the best player on our team.

We are NOT trading him.
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It would solve the issue for us. he would just become somebody else's issue. At this point (yes i know he is the best CB in the league) i'd take a #1 CB, a 1st rounder and a 4th rounder. Then we can pay cromartie and use him and our other CB we traded for and wilson in the slot. also we can use the extra picks becuase we always trade them away. with the money saved we can sign mangold and harris and BE and holmes probably.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 01:23 PM

[quote name='Luigidel' date='02 August 2010 - 05:10 AM' timestamp='1280740258' post='306805']
Since I heard he is a holdout Ive been saying Trade His Ass, Ive come down a notch to Stand Firm. This is not a good precedent to set. First it was Chris Johnson In Tennessee, now revis. Will it be the new trend in sports for athletes who are under contract to holdout for more money like this?
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Luigi where you been bud?, this kinda stuff isn't new. This has been happenin for years now.

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 01:28 PM

[quote name='Jetsman05' date='02 August 2010 - 01:41 PM' timestamp='1280770872' post='306845']
Aso's deal was a THREE YEAR deal. You don't pay someone that type of money over a 5 or 6 year deal.

This is NOT because Davis or Aso. This is because of Revis's inability to grasp that and his mindset that he MUST be the highest paid player at the league.
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Had Al Davis not drivin up the market on Aso Revis would be signed and everything would be all warm and fuzzy.

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 01:53 PM

[quote name='S-Dubb' date='02 August 2010 - 02:28 PM' timestamp='1280773725' post='306852']
Had Al Davis not drivin up the market on Aso Revis would be signed and everything would be all warm and fuzzy.

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They had to sign him for more then he was worth because of it being Oakland. They needed to overpay. It was only a 3-year deal for that reason.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 01:58 PM

in all fairness johnson took a smal raise for this seaosn and was happy. revis seems hell bent on getting 150 million or nothing.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 01:58 PM

[quote name='S-Dubb' date='02 August 2010 - 01:23 PM' timestamp='1280773399' post='306850']
Luigi where you been bud?, this kinda stuff isn't new. This has been happenin for years now.

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I cant think of anyone else that did this
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 02:16 PM

[quote name='Luigidel' date='02 August 2010 - 02:58 PM' timestamp='1280775512' post='306864']
I cant think of anyone else that did this
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Holding out is something that's been happing in sports for years now. DeMarcus Ware did it not to long ago. I can't think off hand but it seems every there is always a few players doing this

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 03:05 PM

[quote name='S-Dubb' date='02 August 2010 - 02:16 PM' timestamp='1280776598' post='306867']
Holding out is something that's been happing in sports for years now. DeMarcus Ware did it not to long ago. I can't think off hand but it seems every there is always a few players doing this

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Ware was under contract and didnt show up to camp?
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 04:50 PM


[b][url="http://blog.newyorkjets.com/2010/08/02/woody-johnson-im-open-to-visiting-revis/"] Woody Johnson: ‘I’m Open’ to Visiting Revis [/url][/b]
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Calling Darrelle Revis “maybe the best player we have,” Jets owner Woody Johnson offered to meet with the star cornerback, who’s opened training camp as a holdout for the second time in four NFL summers.

“The lines of communication are open. I’m open,” said Johnson. “If Darrelle wants me to visit him, I’ll go down and see him — wherever he is — and talk to him and his family and express my feelings about him.”

Revis, who is under contract, believes he should get a contract that makes him the game’s highest-paid corner. Back in February 2009, the Raiders reportedly signed CB Nnamdi Asomugha to a three-year contract worth $45.3 million, including $28.5 million guaranteed.

“The sticking point is total compensation,” Johnson said of his club’s negotiations with Revis. “We haven’t talked about any of those other issues. We’d be happy to do it because I think we’re going to be very flexible.”

The Jets don’t discuss contract numbers publicly, but they say Revis has outworked his current deal and they want to come up with a solution that will work for both sides.

“We know how good of a player Darrelle is. … We drafted him, so he’s our guy,” Johnson said. “We want to give him something that he’s comfortable with but also something the team is comfortable with — make it a two-sided deal.”

Johnson, very confident in GM Mike Tannenbaum, who in June signed a contract extension, will rely on Mike T to do what’s best for the organization.

“I hired him and extended him because I think he has very good judgment,” Johnson said. “I’m not going to pose my judgment on him, saying, ‘Well, I don’t like this deal,’ ‘I like this deal.’ If he comes to me with a recommendation and says, ‘Woody, I think this is fair for us and I think this is a good deal for Revis,’ then we’ll do it today. We’ll do it this afternoon.”


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Posted 02 August 2010 - 04:53 PM

Hey, Classy stuff Woody. Not very many owner would say or do something like this. Great stuff Wood!

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 05:16 PM

Out of the three available in the poll I chose Revis because he is the one who has decided to hold out. He's supposedly been offered plenty of deals so management are obviously working on it. But - as has been pointed out - they are constrained by the CBA and by the looming threat of a lockout next season, so their hands are somewhat tied. The deal will get done eventually though, and then it will be back to happy families.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 05:41 PM

gotta love that. even the owner is willing to go out of his way to help in this dispute. seems liek eveyrone is tryign their best to make this happen except revis
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 05:41 PM

It's all Revis. No doubt in my mind. He knows what's going on with the CBA and he's STILL acting like a punk. I remember two years ago when he went out and let his play do the talking for him.
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