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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (23 September 2016 - 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 10:28 AM

Option A.....I dont know that Revis is making a statement here. I hope not, but it really looks that way....

Just as usual, when fans are getting hyped for the season....this shit happens....

Maybe the fans should boycott the NFL? We pay way to much to watch these rich fuckers. Jerseys and gear costs a ton....I think we should be the one that is bitchin about money....
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 11:08 AM

[quote name='Jetsfan0099' date='02 August 2010 - 03:54 PM' timestamp='1280760844' post='306823']
Trading Revis would be stupid, you won't find a CB of his skills. Lets go into the season with SB expectations with Cromartie and Wilson as the starting CBs, yay.... No, Revis is a core player and they need to get something done.
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Totally agree. I know they're not nice and show some of the selfishness of players nowadays, but holdouts have become part and parcel of the NFL so as fans we shouldn't ever be gobsmacked at player's who decide they're deal is not good enough and decide to sit out.
I've only been a Jets fan less than a decade, but during that time it has often been a painful experience. In no way, shape or form do I want to see the Jets lose a player like Revis, who makes the team that much better.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 12:06 PM

By the way, there isn't any other team that will pay him $16M/y for anything more then 3 or 4 seasons, and he wants longer then that. Trading him wouldn't solve a damn thing, and we would lose out on the best player on our team.

We are NOT trading him.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 12:12 PM

None of the above...and all of the above. It just isn't that simple...the situation and circumstances are to blame.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 12:41 PM

[quote name='S-Dubb' date='02 August 2010 - 03:54 AM' timestamp='1280735641' post='306800']
Al Davis.

Revis wants to be paid like the best and Al Davis destroyed the market for DB's by 3M more a year. That is just asinine. Al Davis is definitely a huge culprit in all of this.

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Aso's deal was a THREE YEAR deal. You don't pay someone that type of money over a 5 or 6 year deal.

This is NOT because Davis or Aso. This is because of Revis's inability to grasp that and his mindset that he MUST be the highest paid player at the league.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 12:55 PM

Al Davis? Bahahahaha!

Clearly its the Jets.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 01:08 PM

The thing about it is in a way we as fans created the monster by christening him Revis Island. We made him believe he was the best in the business and he is, but the way he's going about it is completely wrong. This is what's wrong with the NFL these days, players don't play for the love of the game anymore, they do it to boost their bank accounts IMO. You have to wonder how much of this is coming from Revis himself, all the stuff we've heard so far is from agents and his handlers. I believe we will get him signed before the season starts, but somebody's got to budge. Revis right now is like a kid who pouts because he didn't get the toy he wanted, but if we cave and give him what he wants, you lose respect for the organization for giving in to a spoiled child because that's what Revis is acting like.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 01:11 PM

[quote name='Jetsman05' date='02 August 2010 - 10:06 AM' timestamp='1280768814' post='306842']
By the way, there isn't any other team that will pay him $16M/y for anything more then 3 or 4 seasons, and he wants longer then that. Trading him wouldn't solve a damn thing, and we would lose out on the best player on our team.

We are NOT trading him.
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It would solve the issue for us. he would just become somebody else's issue. At this point (yes i know he is the best CB in the league) i'd take a #1 CB, a 1st rounder and a 4th rounder. Then we can pay cromartie and use him and our other CB we traded for and wilson in the slot. also we can use the extra picks becuase we always trade them away. with the money saved we can sign mangold and harris and BE and holmes probably.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 01:23 PM

[quote name='Luigidel' date='02 August 2010 - 05:10 AM' timestamp='1280740258' post='306805']
Since I heard he is a holdout Ive been saying Trade His Ass, Ive come down a notch to Stand Firm. This is not a good precedent to set. First it was Chris Johnson In Tennessee, now revis. Will it be the new trend in sports for athletes who are under contract to holdout for more money like this?
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Luigi where you been bud?, this kinda stuff isn't new. This has been happenin for years now.

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 01:28 PM

[quote name='Jetsman05' date='02 August 2010 - 01:41 PM' timestamp='1280770872' post='306845']
Aso's deal was a THREE YEAR deal. You don't pay someone that type of money over a 5 or 6 year deal.

This is NOT because Davis or Aso. This is because of Revis's inability to grasp that and his mindset that he MUST be the highest paid player at the league.
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Had Al Davis not drivin up the market on Aso Revis would be signed and everything would be all warm and fuzzy.

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 01:53 PM

[quote name='S-Dubb' date='02 August 2010 - 02:28 PM' timestamp='1280773725' post='306852']
Had Al Davis not drivin up the market on Aso Revis would be signed and everything would be all warm and fuzzy.

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They had to sign him for more then he was worth because of it being Oakland. They needed to overpay. It was only a 3-year deal for that reason.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 01:58 PM

in all fairness johnson took a smal raise for this seaosn and was happy. revis seems hell bent on getting 150 million or nothing.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 01:58 PM

[quote name='S-Dubb' date='02 August 2010 - 01:23 PM' timestamp='1280773399' post='306850']
Luigi where you been bud?, this kinda stuff isn't new. This has been happenin for years now.

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I cant think of anyone else that did this
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 02:16 PM

[quote name='Luigidel' date='02 August 2010 - 02:58 PM' timestamp='1280775512' post='306864']
I cant think of anyone else that did this
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Holding out is something that's been happing in sports for years now. DeMarcus Ware did it not to long ago. I can't think off hand but it seems every there is always a few players doing this

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 03:05 PM

[quote name='S-Dubb' date='02 August 2010 - 02:16 PM' timestamp='1280776598' post='306867']
Holding out is something that's been happing in sports for years now. DeMarcus Ware did it not to long ago. I can't think off hand but it seems every there is always a few players doing this

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Ware was under contract and didnt show up to camp?
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 04:50 PM


[b][url="http://blog.newyorkjets.com/2010/08/02/woody-johnson-im-open-to-visiting-revis/"] Woody Johnson: ‘I’m Open’ to Visiting Revis [/url][/b]
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Calling Darrelle Revis “maybe the best player we have,” Jets owner Woody Johnson offered to meet with the star cornerback, who’s opened training camp as a holdout for the second time in four NFL summers.

“The lines of communication are open. I’m open,” said Johnson. “If Darrelle wants me to visit him, I’ll go down and see him — wherever he is — and talk to him and his family and express my feelings about him.”

Revis, who is under contract, believes he should get a contract that makes him the game’s highest-paid corner. Back in February 2009, the Raiders reportedly signed CB Nnamdi Asomugha to a three-year contract worth $45.3 million, including $28.5 million guaranteed.

“The sticking point is total compensation,” Johnson said of his club’s negotiations with Revis. “We haven’t talked about any of those other issues. We’d be happy to do it because I think we’re going to be very flexible.”

The Jets don’t discuss contract numbers publicly, but they say Revis has outworked his current deal and they want to come up with a solution that will work for both sides.

“We know how good of a player Darrelle is. … We drafted him, so he’s our guy,” Johnson said. “We want to give him something that he’s comfortable with but also something the team is comfortable with — make it a two-sided deal.”

Johnson, very confident in GM Mike Tannenbaum, who in June signed a contract extension, will rely on Mike T to do what’s best for the organization.

“I hired him and extended him because I think he has very good judgment,” Johnson said. “I’m not going to pose my judgment on him, saying, ‘Well, I don’t like this deal,’ ‘I like this deal.’ If he comes to me with a recommendation and says, ‘Woody, I think this is fair for us and I think this is a good deal for Revis,’ then we’ll do it today. We’ll do it this afternoon.”


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Posted 02 August 2010 - 04:53 PM

Hey, Classy stuff Woody. Not very many owner would say or do something like this. Great stuff Wood!

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 05:16 PM

Out of the three available in the poll I chose Revis because he is the one who has decided to hold out. He's supposedly been offered plenty of deals so management are obviously working on it. But - as has been pointed out - they are constrained by the CBA and by the looming threat of a lockout next season, so their hands are somewhat tied. The deal will get done eventually though, and then it will be back to happy families.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 05:41 PM

gotta love that. even the owner is willing to go out of his way to help in this dispute. seems liek eveyrone is tryign their best to make this happen except revis
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 05:41 PM

It's all Revis. No doubt in my mind. He knows what's going on with the CBA and he's STILL acting like a punk. I remember two years ago when he went out and let his play do the talking for him.
Sal Paolantonio commenting on the difference in the Ryan and Mangini atmospheres in the building:
"It's like going from Alcatraz to Dorney Park."

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