[gmany3k]

with 65mil guaranteed Rcan invest it and make another 65 nil and than give some back to the jets in the future if need be.
this Revis thing was a Dog and pony show scripted with a happy ending so Relax and enjoy the show.

[Jetsfan115]

so 15 a year to revis, 10 a year to brick, and 8 a year to mangold. Thats 33 mil a year locked up in 3 players or basically 25% of our cap. were gonna lose alot of players

[FlyHiJets]

I don't like having that much of our cap space being spent on 3 players when we still have other needs. This all but insures this is an all or nothing year for our Jets. We're definitely going to lose either Edwards or Holmes. Harris is likely to be a cap casualty as well. LT is likely one and done with us. Ellis & Jenkins are both likely not to be here next season if there is one. All because Darelle MEvis had to be a greedy bastard.

It's good that he's going to sign and finally report but I still don't like how he became so much more important than the team.

[FlyHiJets]

azjetfan, on 24 August 2010 - 08:41 PM, said:

I am not saying he handled it perfect but I dont see him as thinking he is bigger than the team.

How is wanting a 10 yr 162 million dollar deal not thinking he's bigger than the team when it completely makes it virtually impossible to re-sign the other players that are going to need deals? Even with the reported/speculated 10 yr/150 million/65M guaranteed deal, that almost automatically guarantees that we lose necessary pieces of the puzzle.

I'm with FrontRow in that if we win it all this year, I'd love to see us dump him and keep the players that have shown they want to be a Jet rather than wanting to get paid.

[Jetsman05]

FlyHiJets, on 25 August 2010 - 11:16 AM, said:

I don't like having that much of our cap space being spent on 3 players when we still have other needs. This all but insures this is an all or nothing year for our Jets. We're definitely going to lose either Edwards or Holmes. Harris is likely to be a cap casualty as well. LT is likely one and done with us. Ellis & Jenkins are both likely not to be here next season if there is one. All because Darelle MEvis had to be a greedy bastard.

It's good that he's going to sign and finally report but I still don't like how he became so much more important than the team.

We will have money tied into our most important positions, minus Sanchez. In our defense you need Revis, any team needs a cornerstone LT and C. We have them all for MANY years to come.

We aren't resigning these guys because "it's an all or nothing year for the Jets"

[Merenguito]

Jetsman05, on 25 August 2010 - 11:24 AM, said:

We will have money tied into our most important positions, minus Sanchez. In our defense you need Revis, any team needs a cornerstone LT and C. We have them all for MANY years to come.

We aren't resigning these guys because "it's an all or nothing year for the Jets"

Thank you Jetsman...I was waiting for someone to post something like this.

[FlyHiJets]

Jetsman05, on 25 August 2010 - 11:24 AM, said:

We will have money tied into our most important positions, minus Sanchez. In our defense you need Revis, any team needs a cornerstone LT and C. We have them all for MANY years to come.

We aren't resigning these guys because "it's an all or nothing year for the Jets"

Okay. Why is it automatic that in our Defense we need Revis? What has Wilson given up? I know he hasnt exactly been tested really and that he's no Revis but we can now say that Al Davis & Darrelle MEvis have just completely changed the landscape for ANY position player.

You're right. We're going to have money tied up into our most important positions, but 25% of our total cap space on three players? What do we do for the other 50 players on the team? What's going to happen in 2012 when Sanchez is due a new contract? Are we going to have between 40% & 50% of our total cap space tied up in a total of 4 players? Don't just think this year but think of the future implications Revis' contract has on the team.


We're not resigning these guys because its an all or nothing year, but I guarantee that we will not be able to re-sign everyone we'll need to. Jenkins likely retires so that opens up nominal space. Harris is likely gone as is Ellis. Either Edwards or Holmes will be gone. LT will be gone. Cromartie will likely be gone even if he does have a monster year with us. More like ESPECIALLY if he has a monster year because Revis is setting a new standard for payment for a premiere corner. We're going to lose people on both sides of our lines. That's going to hurt this team, so you cant really say that this isnt an all or nothing year.

[Jetsfan0099]

Chances are more than likely that Wilson in his career NEVER has a year that can compare to what Revis did last season. We are talking historically good year from Revis last season that matches with the greats at his position in the history of the game, but the kicker is that Revis did it in a passing league that has rules that favor the offense and the passing attacks which make it even more impressive.


They'll find ways to move money around and open cap space, locking Revis, Mangold, and Ferguson up makes this offseason a success IMO, a HUGE success.

[VaNDelaYInDusTrIEs]

Merenguito, on 25 August 2010 - 10:11 AM, said:

If we win this season and he is a key part of the team (and im sure he will regardless) I GUARANTEE you will take this comment back.

I agree. They'll be totally content to have 15% of the cap tied up in one of the best and greediest players in the league.

[Jetsman05]

Jetsfan0099, on 25 August 2010 - 11:51 AM, said:

Chances are more than likely that Wilson in his career NEVER has a year that can compare to what Revis did last season. We are talking historically good year from Revis last season that matches with the greats at his position in the history of the game, but the kicker is that Revis did it in a passing league that has rules that favor the offense and the passing attacks which make it even more impressive.


They'll find ways to move money around and open cap space, locking Revis, Mangold, and Ferguson up makes this offseason a success IMO, a HUGE success.

Exactly. Enough with the Wilson comparison, Wilson will be lucky enough to turn himself into a corner of Cromartie's stature, none the less Revis.

As for everyone else, you have to pay your best players ESPECIALLY at the positions we have them at.

We also won't lose Sanchez, that's the 4 most vital positions on our football team. CB, QB, C, LT.

Harris won't be a casualty, and even if he is it's because the team knows we can flourish with another (cheaper) ILB in there. Harris is great, but don't think he's some phenom. He's in a defense that can make him look good, next to a LB (Bart Scott) who eats his blockers for lunch.

As for Edwards or Holmes, I wouldn't care if we lost BOTH of them!!! Like I said before, I would not franchise tag either of those guys unless they have a huge break out year and really find chemistry with Sanchez.

This team is always going to TWO things well, run the ball and play defense. We've made HUGE steps if we sign Revis into being able to do that for next decade.

Think of the future implications that Revis' deal will have on this team? How many other players on our team are going to be in the running for POTY?

Think of the future implications BRICK'S deal has on the team, FlyHi. Look at what Mangold did, the same thing Brick did. Sacrifice.

We have a great group of coaches, front office and players on this team.

[FlyHiJets]

I agree that Revis is a special player but just as Wilson may never have a year like Revis had last year, the odds are equal that no one will ever have a year like he did last year. Including himself. I hope he proves me wrong and continues to play at that level. I just don't like feeling we've been held up at gunpoint raped by any single player.

[Jetsman05]

FlyHiJets, on 25 August 2010 - 12:01 PM, said:

I agree that Revis is a special player but just as Wilson may never have a year like Revis had last year, the odds are equal that no one will ever have a year like he did last year. Including himself. I hope he proves me wrong and continues to play at that level. I just don't like feeling we've been held up at gunpoint raped by any single player.

Revis can up his picks to around 8 potentially, and he's going into his FOURTH season!!! He's going to be shutting down other team's #1 on his OWN for the next decade for us!!

[gmany3k]

So you guys think the front office is going to tank the team because Revis has leverage over the front office. they spent 1.7 billion on a stadium and you guys think that this player can just ruin their plan to win a SB That the cap rules and such are truly real numbers that they must abide by with no loop hole or secret monies. your 1st clue should be that none of these players are worth this kind of money compared to real meaningful people like you and me.? The elites make the rules for you and me not for themselves.

[Jetsfan115]

Jetsman05, on 25 August 2010 - 09:05 AM, said:

Revis can up his picks to around 8 potentially, and he's going into his FOURTH season!!! He's going to be shutting down other team's #1 on his OWN for the next decade for us!!

Cro had 10 in his 1st

[Jetsman05]

Jetsfan115, on 25 August 2010 - 12:21 PM, said:

Cro had 10 in his 1st

Picks alone doesn't make a great CB.

But yes, Cromartie has outstanding ball skills.

[Goodfellaz]

Jetsman05, on 25 August 2010 - 12:38 PM, said:

Picks alone doesn't make a great CB.

But yes, Cromartie has outstanding ball skills.

Leonhard was saying on Hard Knocks that in this defense the picks will come for safeties just by doing their jobs and being in position. Don't have to over pursue or try for them - just be ready when the ball is there. I don't need Revis to have a ton of picks as long as he continues to keep a high Passes Defended count relative to the times he's thrown at. Having Cro and Revis together should bring a lot of tipped interception chances for the rest of the D.

[Jetsfan115]

Jetsman05, on 25 August 2010 - 09:38 AM, said:

Picks alone doesn't make a great CB.

But yes, Cromartie has outstanding ball skills.

That was my point, sometimes you get lucky picks and sometimes QBs avoid you like the plague and you don't get many chances to get picks

Goodfellaz, on 25 August 2010 - 09:45 AM, said:

Leonhard was saying on Hard Knocks that in this defense the picks will come for safeties just by doing their jobs and being in position. Don't have to over pursue or try for them - just be ready when the ball is there. I don't need Revis to have a ton of picks as long as he continues to keep a high Passes Defended count relative to the times he's thrown at. Having Cro and Revis together should bring a lot of tipped interception chances for the rest of the D.

Leonhard had a nice pick in the carolina game last week

[gmany3k]

Jets owner: No new developments in Revis holdout saga

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More Columns > ATLANTA -- I just spoke with New York Jets owner Woody Johnson at the Special League Meeting on Wednesday, and he told me that to his knowledge, there is nothing new with the team and holdout cornerback Darrelle Revis.

I asked Johnson if there have been any recent meetings or negotiations, and he said the team and Revis' representatives have promised not to publicly discuss the matter. But Johnson said, again, to his knowledge, there have been no new developments.

Lastly, I asked him if he expects Revis to report to the team anytime soon. Johnson said, to his knowledge, things remain "status quo."

There have been conflicting reports in the past few days regarding Revis' holdout. The New York Daily News reported Wednesday that the sides are close to coming to terms on a new deal.

The Dallas Morning News reported that Revis' agents and the Jets were supposed to meet Tuesday night, but the Daily News said there are strong indications that such a meeting never took place.

[Jetsfan0099]

Of course Woody Johnson is saying this, they aren't talking with the media about it until its done.

[Mr_Jet]

FlyHiJets, on 25 August 2010 - 12:01 PM, said:

I agree that Revis is a special player but just as Wilson may never have a year like Revis had last year, the odds are equal that no one will ever have a year like he did last year. Including himself. I hope he proves me wrong and continues to play at that level. I just don't like feeling we've been held up at gunpoint raped by any single player.

Being a bit overly dramatic aren't we?