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santana Icon : (02 January 2017 - 02:19 PM) texans coach? i doubt he gets fired
santana Icon : (02 January 2017 - 02:19 PM) but he would be ideal if the jets were to flush bowles out
santana Icon : (02 January 2017 - 04:36 PM) http://www.nj.com/je...trol_of_je.html
azjetfan Icon : (05 January 2017 - 09:54 PM) Sean Payton will get another HC gig. Obrien would be good.
azjetfan Icon : (09 January 2017 - 11:18 PM) Howard from Alabama seems legit. #88 TE
azjetfan Icon : (09 January 2017 - 11:20 PM) Williams the WR from Clemson looks like they are out to get him. He has taken some huge hits
vjdbbq Icon : (10 January 2017 - 07:12 AM) We'll take Williams in the first round .
Chadforpresi... Icon : (10 January 2017 - 10:48 AM) I'd love Howard in the 2nd round if he's still there. I like Williams a lot as well, but I just don't see WR being big enough of a need, and there should be better talent on the board at 6
Jetsfan115 Icon : (10 January 2017 - 07:21 PM) Raiders OC Musgrave not expected to return to OAK. what do you think about getting him? he did wonders with the oakland offense this year
Chadforpresi... Icon : (10 January 2017 - 07:39 PM) Definitely an appealing choice given with his history of progressing Carr. We need someone with a track record of grooming young QBs
MikeGangGree... Icon : (12 January 2017 - 12:36 PM) I want Watson now! after what he did Monday night I'm sold on him at QB. He moved the ball all night on Alabama and after hurts scored that TD he just told his team "Lets end this"
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Hamilton County Prosecutor Joe Deters tells WKRC-TV he's asking "what is the normal" for a player with multiple offenses and who's been suspended before.

An NFL spokesman said on Thursday that Jones' case is "under review" and declined to comment further.

Jones was jailed Jan. 3 on charges he head-butted police and spit on a nurse after his arrest for assault. Authorities say he was so combative he had to be placed in a restraint chair.

Jones says he anticipates the charges will be dismissed.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (12 January 2017 - 06:32 PM) we wont get watson. he's going 1st overall to the browns
azjetfan Icon : (12 January 2017 - 09:06 PM) Is Watson a product of Clemson's staff and supporting cast? Taj Boyd also put up some decent numbers if I remember correctly but he couldn't even make a scout team in the NFL.
azjetfan Icon : (12 January 2017 - 09:11 PM) From what I have read (although limited) he is not the highest ranked QB in the draft.
azjetfan Icon : (12 January 2017 - 09:11 PM) "No quarterback in this draft -- not Mitch Trubisky, not Watson, not DeShone Kizer -- is considered a sure thing. The folks at Scouts Inc. rank Trubisky, Watson and Kizer as the 21st, 38th and 46th prospects on their big board, respectively." ESPN
azjetfan Icon : (12 January 2017 - 09:12 PM) If we can get a decent return for Richardson we may be able to make a move into the mid teens to early 20s if the Brass really likes Watson.
azjetfan Icon : (12 January 2017 - 09:13 PM) Personally I don't think the jets have a clue on who they will take. We still have to hit FA and manage our roster
azjetfan Icon : (12 January 2017 - 11:46 PM) Jets to interview Broncos assistant Studesville for OC
Jetsfan115 Icon : (13 January 2017 - 01:28 PM) Why? seems like a weird choice
Jetsfan115 Icon : (13 January 2017 - 01:29 PM) Leonard Williams replacing Khalil Mack in Pro Bowl
Chadforpresi... Icon : (13 January 2017 - 09:49 PM) I'm not buying Watson, even after that championship game. Dude threw too many picks in his day
Chadforpresi... Icon : (13 January 2017 - 09:49 PM) I'm really curious to see what we get for Richardson, but I have a bad feeling his value is at an all time low between his crap season and bad attitude
azjetfan Icon : (14 January 2017 - 12:16 AM) I agree. He is a first round talent but a fourth round headache. We will be lucky to get a 2nd
Chadforpresi... Icon : (14 January 2017 - 08:41 AM) Yeah precisely. 2nd rounder would be a huge stretch. 3rd or 4th is more likely
vjdbbq Icon : (14 January 2017 - 02:18 PM) Send Sheldon someplace he will never see the playoffs ; like Jacksonville ; then he will have time to find da ho's .
azjetfan Icon : (14 January 2017 - 07:25 PM) R Sherman is getting torched by the Falcons.
vjdbbq Icon : (16 January 2017 - 09:37 AM) Pats vs Pitt - root for injuries
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 January 2017 - 12:36 PM) GB-ATL game is gonna be a hell of a shootout. that throw rodgers made on 3rd and 20 with 12 seconds left in a tied game was ridiculous. 35 yards rolling out to his left a perfect placed ball on the sideline.
azjetfan Icon : (16 January 2017 - 10:50 PM) Winters resigned to 4 year deal. $7 million per year
Chadforpresi... Icon : (16 January 2017 - 10:51 PM) Seems like a slightly steep price but overall cool with it, he's turned into a good player and is still young. Just needs to stay healthy.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (17 January 2017 - 04:12 PM) seems like a good deal. they were saying he could have earned over 8 million in the open market
vjdbbq Icon : (18 January 2017 - 08:12 AM) Where's Rob ?
vjdbbq Icon : (18 January 2017 - 08:12 AM) Is he looking for a new ass ?
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Jetsfan115 Icon : (18 January 2017 - 01:32 PM) 4 years 29 mil 15 mil guarenteed. so 7.25mil a year for winters. a nice bargain. he took a hometown discount. seems like a good guy. well done winters and mac
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Posted 03 August 2010 - 11:36 AM

[quote name='JSOTF' date='03 August 2010 - 11:16 AM' timestamp='1280852205' post='306976']
I personally do not believe ANYONE is worth getting paid 1,000,000, for esentially a 4-5 hour sporting event. For that matter, no matter what thier job is.

I am really starting to get fed up with this shit in all of sports. It is too the point where a fan cannot even afford to go to a game, or by team merchandice without spending a fortune. I live in Texas, I am a Jet fan, and to watch the games on TV, it would cost me $294 to get the NFL Package to watch just the Jet games. Or whatever to go to a sports bar. To get a nice JETS Polo, it will cost at least $75. If I wanted to go to the game in Denver, $750 for seats on the sideline with the Jets....I cant afford all this shit, and this guy wants more money.......
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The problem with that is the whole lot of them are greedy. Not just the players, but the teams. You just hear more about player salaries. A lot of those owners, if they could, would just prefer baseball system where they can spend nothing and soak up extra revenue. Guys like Jerry Jones want the players to look greedy, as if the top guys are all working pro bono. It isn't just Revis making tickets cost a lot.

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 11:38 AM

This makes me feel quite a bit better....at least DR is not retiring! :banana019:
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Posted 03 August 2010 - 02:29 PM

I can't believe not one person commented on this. I read this earlier on my BB and become infuriated. This is the first time I've heard this from Tanny. They offered this f*ckin guy over 100 million but the guarantees weren't to what he wanted. We offered him a band-aid option, a long term and everything inbetween and he still scoffs.

Honestly, it was one thing to hold out and get money. Ok, I was all for it. However when the Jets are trying at every turn to sign you and you continually hold out and reject their offers, what the hell is going on with this guy?

God Dammit, get in f*ckin camp!

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 02:48 PM

I don't believe in gag orders 1st amendment . the 2nd is obvious . the 3rd is Revis's Team think they know something we don't about what Tanny and woody can do .maybe the rules they speak of are not Real a farce made up by the NFL owners to keep their billions in tact.
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Posted 03 August 2010 - 03:45 PM

The way I look at it, fine the guy and have him sit on the bench/holdout instead of even thinking about trading him. F*ck him and his dumb ass advisors if management is doing what they can do to appease him and he still wants to bitch about it. Sign Mangold and Harris, show the media, the public, and most importantly the fans that the team cares about holding onto their young talent. If that happens, it's Revis and Company that gets put in a bad light, not the Jets.
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Posted 03 August 2010 - 04:13 PM


[b][url="http://blog.newyorkjets.com/2010/08/03/not-something-the-jets-needed-to-start-camp/"] Not Something the Jets Needed to Start Camp [/url][/b]
Posted by Bob Wischusen on August 3, 2010 – 9:04 am

So Darrelle Revis is a holdout. It’s not like this was unexpected, despite the rumblings recently that the door had been reopened to contract talks and there was no formal declaration from Revis that he would indeed skip the start of camp. And maybe this is only a “statement” by Revis, much like his minicamp “sick-out.” Maybe this only lasts for a few days.

Or maybe it gets uglier, and maybe it drags itself into a major camp distraction, which would obviously be a worst-case scenario.

Either way, this is not what the Jets needed as they open a camp with more hype and optimism surrounding their 2010 chances than any summer I can ever remember. Even the group that came off of the 1998 AFC Championship game didn’t have this kind of buzz.

Normally when you have a situation like this one, people will choose sides. And you’ll see/read/hear plenty of exactly that as the Revis holdout plays itself out. I used to be a talk show host, and in that profession you get paid to take sides. But no matter how many different angles one looks at this situation, I’m not sure there is anything but gray area. There doesn’t seem to be right and wrong. Both sides have legitimate concerns that have left this negotiation behind major roadblocks.

Look at it first from Revis’ point of view — and this is the far simpler side of the issue. Across the NFL, “Revis Island” is looked upon as the most difficult piece of real estate to get anywhere near. The Jets themselves, and specifically the head coach, have never been shy about lauding Revis as perhaps the best player in the NFL. Certainly they believe they have the best player at that position in the league.

Players usually get one or two chances in their careers to do a big contract, and the first time around sets the pace if you’re even lucky enough to do a huge deal a second time around. Security, respect, being paid what he feels he’s worth — these are all justifiable concerns for a player to have, especially a player as young and as good as Darrelle Revis.

However, there are two sides to every story, and the Jets have concerns that are just as legitimate. Revis can look at the short term, with respect to himself alone. The Jets have an entire organization to which they must pay attention. How will a Revis deal impact their cap situation when a cap of some sort inevitably returns? What will that financial structure be? How will the money they pay Revis now affect the jumping-off point for negotiations with other young, would-be star players and their deals that will also be coming up? (See Nick Mangold and David Harris for starters.)

Also, Nnamdi Asomugha made a killing, no doubt about it. He took his deal all the way to free agency. (Revis still has three years left on his contract.)

There are financial ramifications that are far-reaching beyond simply saying “Revis is the best. We should just pay him.” Mangold and Harris also both want new deals, but they’re not holding out. D’Brickashaw Ferguson got a big new contract, but also gave a little from his side, making the money he’ll earn attainable due to skill and taking out an insurance policy to guard against injury.

It’s a tough situation for both sides. In the end, you know how this resolves itself? The Players Association, and specifically the head of the NFLPA, stops giving interviews to every camera that passes him on the street and gets to the negotiating table instead.

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[list=1][*] By [b]uncle joe[/b] on [url="http://blog.newyorkjets.com/2010/08/03/not-something-the-jets-needed-to-start-camp/#comment-51890"]Aug 3, 2010[/url] | [url="http://blog.newyorkjets.com/2010/08/03/not-something-the-jets-needed-to-start-camp/#respond"]Reply[/url]

The Jets BIGGEST problem right now is that they can’t give Wilson time in Revis’ spot because they need him to learn the nickle,but if this thing goes too long they should seriously consider moving foward without Revis.[*] By [b]Kaya[/b] on [url="http://blog.newyorkjets.com/2010/08/03/not-something-the-jets-needed-to-start-camp/#comment-51891"]Aug 3, 2010[/url] | [url="http://blog.newyorkjets.com/2010/08/03/not-something-the-jets-needed-to-start-camp/#respond"]Reply[/url]

You know this is true. Revis desevers to get paid but he also is being selffish. Mangold and Harris are both looking for new contract too, but yet there are in camp. And if story is true that the Jets offered over 100 million then, Revis and his camp is getting greedy here. How much of the 100 million does he want garanteed? Or better yet how much of a bonus is he looking for? You still have 3 yrs left, while Mangold and Harris are playing on their last yr contract and still are in camp.[*] By [b]Fish Hunters[/b] on [url="http://blog.newyorkjets.com/2010/08/03/not-something-the-jets-needed-to-start-camp/#comment-51894"]Aug 3, 2010[/url] | [url="http://blog.newyorkjets.com/2010/08/03/not-something-the-jets-needed-to-start-camp/#respond"]Reply[/url]

It’s time to move on from Revis. His uncle whom he takes advice from is infamous for holding out an entire season. I’m sure he will too. If he’s not willing to have a sit down face to face then lets go out and see what kind of TOP DEFENSIVE PLAYER IN THE GAME VALUE we can get in a trade. ‘Cause it shows just where his head is at, in stupidville.[*] By [b]HuTcH[/b] on [url="http://blog.newyorkjets.com/2010/08/03/not-something-the-jets-needed-to-start-camp/#comment-51896"]Aug 3, 2010[/url] | [url="http://blog.newyorkjets.com/2010/08/03/not-something-the-jets-needed-to-start-camp/#respond"]Reply[/url]

All of us Jets fans better pray they get Revis back in camp soon enough without too much turmoil, or you can kiss that sweet #1ranked blitzing defense goodbye. Oh and let LaV Coles stay on this year for old times sake for cheap like TO.[*] By [b]GIL[/b] on [url="http://blog.newyorkjets.com/2010/08/03/not-something-the-jets-needed-to-start-camp/#comment-51897"]Aug 3, 2010[/url] | [url="http://blog.newyorkjets.com/2010/08/03/not-something-the-jets-needed-to-start-camp/#respond"]Reply[/url]

This is getting rediculous, THREE YEARS LEFT??? I have been a big supporter of lets pay these guys cuz they show true grit but this is getting out of hand, I rather pay Mangold and Harris first and worry about Revis later, honestly if Wilson pans out like he did with Boise State then we can have another legitimate lockdown corner, to be greedy is stupid especially since you have gotten paid handsomely over the first 3 years, Revis respect your team mates yes its a business but have class and report to camp, You owe the fans that pay to watch you more than what your giving now.[*] By [b]Lewis[/b] on [url="http://blog.newyorkjets.com/2010/08/03/not-something-the-jets-needed-to-start-camp/#comment-51898"]Aug 3, 2010[/url] | [url="http://blog.newyorkjets.com/2010/08/03/not-something-the-jets-needed-to-start-camp/#respond"]Reply[/url]

I have lost all respect of Revis. I have been a JETS fan since super bowl III when everyone else in the room were pulling for the Colts. I have stuck like most fans and when this type of loyalty comes up then I will pull the plug on them. If Revis holds out much more and keeps this crap going I will have a hard time pulling for him even if he does show up with what he wants. Give him two weeks then move on. Can they use his money for the last years on his contract with someone else?[*] By [b]Mr.Green[/b] on [url="http://blog.newyorkjets.com/2010/08/03/not-something-the-jets-needed-to-start-camp/#comment-51899"]Aug 3, 2010[/url] | [url="http://blog.newyorkjets.com/2010/08/03/not-something-the-jets-needed-to-start-camp/#respond"]Reply[/url]

Unfortunately this is now becoming common place in the NFL. $100 million turned down ? So they have to offer more and the fans will be the bearer of bad news in this matter. Ticket prices will rise and rise as contracts meet ridiculous heights. Kind of reminds me of Latrelle Sprewell with the Knicks. WHERE IS HE NOW ? BROKE[*] By [b]TEJ[/b] on [url="http://blog.newyorkjets.com/2010/08/03/not-something-the-jets-needed-to-start-camp/#comment-51902"]Aug 3, 2010[/url] | [url="http://blog.newyorkjets.com/2010/08/03/not-something-the-jets-needed-to-start-camp/#respond"]Reply[/url]

Uncle Joe…Are you serious!!!It’s only 2 days into camp and you are talking about moving forward w/o Revis. This is separates locker rooms and team chemistry. Remember LEON WASHINGTON…Where is he now?????[*] By [b]pep pep[/b] on [url="http://blog.newyorkjets.com/2010/08/03/not-something-the-jets-needed-to-start-camp/#comment-51904"]Aug 3, 2010[/url] | [url="http://blog.newyorkjets.com/2010/08/03/not-something-the-jets-needed-to-start-camp/#respond"]Reply[/url]

I love Revis and i believe he is an amazing corner. But he has not PROVEN that he is the best corner in the league because he has not played enough. Now, having said that, i still believe the Jets HAVE to pay him if they truly are committed to winning a Superbowl (they need him). BUT he needs to understand that if he wants to stay on a team that’s loading up for a MONSTER year he CANNOT be a distraction…I think he knows that he will get the most money if he becomes a free agent, and if that’s what he wants he needs to play out his contract…if he wants a new contract NOW, he needs to bend a little…YOU CANT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS…can you?[*] By [b]Glenn H.[/b] on [url="http://blog.newyorkjets.com/2010/08/03/not-something-the-jets-needed-to-start-camp/#comment-51905"]Aug 3, 2010[/url] | [url="http://blog.newyorkjets.com/2010/08/03/not-something-the-jets-needed-to-start-camp/#respond"]Reply[/url]

I obviously have no idea where they are in the negotiations, but I personally would have more respect for Revis if he was acting more like Harris and Mangold and showing up to camp during the talks. Obviously he’s just listening to his agent, so it’s hard to fault him too much, but still I’d like to see him acting like he expects a fair deal to be made, instead of holding the team hostage.

My $.02[*] By [b]Fish Hunters[/b] on [url="http://blog.newyorkjets.com/2010/08/03/not-something-the-jets-needed-to-start-camp/#comment-51908"]Aug 3, 2010[/url] | [url="http://blog.newyorkjets.com/2010/08/03/not-something-the-jets-needed-to-start-camp/#respond"]Reply[/url]

@pep, true we have acquired a lot of talent “this year” but it’s not about JUST this year. It’s about building sustained success. We want the SB to be attainable EVERY year. So we can’t just pay him or anyone else anything they want just to get on the field. There WILL be a cap again. This is not baseball where small market teams have to pray every year that they get lucky. The cap makes it an even playing field for every team. We have to have talent but we also have to have a healthy cap #.[*] By [b]Jim D[/b] on [url="http://blog.newyorkjets.com/2010/08/03/not-something-the-jets-needed-to-start-camp/#comment-51909"]Aug 3, 2010[/url] | [url="http://blog.newyorkjets.com/2010/08/03/not-something-the-jets-needed-to-start-camp/#respond"]Reply[/url]

I agree with Glenn H. , Revis is still under contract. He needs to show his team and management that his heart is still with the TEAM (participating in minicamp) , and I firmly believe that his contract will be renegotiated and will reflect what a valuable player he really is.[*] By [b]Fish Hunters[/b] on [url="http://blog.newyorkjets.com/2010/08/03/not-something-the-jets-needed-to-start-camp/#comment-51910"]Aug 3, 2010[/url] | [url="http://blog.newyorkjets.com/2010/08/03/not-something-the-jets-needed-to-start-camp/#respond"]Reply[/url]

We should have seen this coming. He held out as a rookie and his uncle held out a full season. If a deal is eventually worked out it needs to be his last.[*] By [b]Joshua R[/b] on [url="http://blog.newyorkjets.com/2010/08/03/not-something-the-jets-needed-to-start-camp/#comment-51916"]Aug 3, 2010[/url] | [url="http://blog.newyorkjets.com/2010/08/03/not-something-the-jets-needed-to-start-camp/#respond"]Reply[/url]

Just make him a Jet for Life! give him a huge contract he was a huge part of our defense last year and if we gonna make it to the ship this year we need him playing at 100%[*] By [b]fred rosenberg[/b] on [url="http://blog.newyorkjets.com/2010/08/03/not-something-the-jets-needed-to-start-camp/#comment-51917"]Aug 3, 2010[/url] | [url="http://blog.newyorkjets.com/2010/08/03/not-something-the-jets-needed-to-start-camp/#respond"]Reply[/url]

No individual, talent notwithstanding, is bigger than the company for whom he/she works – the same is true of an NFL team, which is, in fact the company- or employer. No one wants Revis as a Jet more than I do … he’s a viktal cog in the team’s wheel. But enough is enough. Time to get on with program and placde the goals of the team first. Trade him, let the Lions scoff up his contract, so we can reap the benefitts of future draft choices. That’s the future; not a spoiled brat who listens to the wrong people, lives on ego island, and is totally embroied in counting his milliions at the expense of his teram mates, his fans and, yes, the company.[*] By [b]Fish Hunters[/b] on [url="http://blog.newyorkjets.com/2010/08/03/not-something-the-jets-needed-to-start-camp/#comment-51918"]Aug 3, 2010[/url] | [url="http://blog.newyorkjets.com/2010/08/03/not-something-the-jets-needed-to-start-camp/#respond"]Reply[/url]

Hey Josh, what if he was not holding out and got hurt in the 2nd game of the season? Does that mean we don’t get to the Superbowl? Yeah he’s good but can you name the CB’s on the Saiints? Or even the Colts? Are any of them the best defensive player on the planet? Yes, his skill and presence makes it easier but not impossible; which is exactly why you can’t put all the golden eggs into one players basket. Football is a true TEAM game and players get hurt like Kris Jenkins and Leon Washington did last year. Outstanding players in their own right, but we still made it to the AFC title game. It takes depth, not a fat contract in one guys hands.[*] By [b]scjoe[/b] on [url="http://blog.newyorkjets.com/2010/08/03/not-something-the-jets-needed-to-start-camp/#comment-51922"]Aug 3, 2010[/url] | [url="http://blog.newyorkjets.com/2010/08/03/not-something-the-jets-needed-to-start-camp/#respond"]Reply[/url]

This should not be a distraction to ANYONE! My advice to Mr. Johnson…Offer him NOTHING! Let him fulfill his remaining two years, or go and find employment outside of pro football. Then, after his remaining two years, you franchise him for the next two. If that don’t send a message to all the ME first athletes around the league, nothing will[/list]
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Posted 03 August 2010 - 04:15 PM

#17 is a good one.
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Posted 03 August 2010 - 04:26 PM

it has a good point. mangold and harris can both insure themselves against major injury. Insurance will protect them from being screwed over
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Posted 03 August 2010 - 04:50 PM

Once it starts hitting Revis in the wallet, he'll sign and show up in camp. He's looking real bad with the refusal to even meet face to face for talks. He's doing nothing but hurting himself and whoever is advising him to keep his stance is a class A moron.

Sign Mangold & Harris and let Revis do his thing by sitting and hurting himself even more. Hopefully Kyle Wilson is progressing nicely.
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Posted 03 August 2010 - 05:03 PM

[quote name='A1elbow' date='03 August 2010 - 12:36 PM' timestamp='1280853393' post='306977']
The problem with that is the whole lot of them are greedy. Not just the players, but the teams. You just hear more about player salaries. A lot of those owners, if they could, would just prefer baseball system where they can spend nothing and soak up extra revenue. Guys like Jerry Jones want the players to look greedy, as if the top guys are all working pro bono. It isn't just Revis making tickets cost a lot.

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Where is the team being greedy with this in your opinion? The JETS have offered him a contract in excess of 100 million dollars & he scoffed at it. That is ridiculous. Revis is a shut down corner. He's proven that but who's to say that once he gets his payday, he doesn't take it easy? Revis isnt being painted as anything by the Jets. If he's seeing a picture or portait of himself as being greedy, he's looking in the mirror.
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Posted 03 August 2010 - 05:19 PM

#17 is the best on the list. I agree with it 100%.
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Posted 03 August 2010 - 06:29 PM

revis is greedy were giving him the richest overall deal EVER for a CB, and the most money per season of any CB not named aso, and aso only got 3 years. revis is getting his over like 7 years. If the jets lowballed him and offered like 6 mil a season then i could say the jets were being greedy, but reports were the deal was worth over 12 mil a year. no CB makes that much per season but aso. Revis wants to make more then aso for some reason and the jets are telling him that they ignore raiders contracts and revis doesn't care. the raiders are the same team that is paying a punter starting RB money. revis needs to stop being so self centered and take the deal, as good as he is , nobody is going to give him 1 mil a year over 7 years. peyton manning might not even get that much in his new deal
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Posted 03 August 2010 - 07:55 PM

[quote name='JSOTF' date='03 August 2010 - 11:16 AM' timestamp='1280852205' post='306976']
I personally do not believe ANYONE is worth getting paid 1,000,000, for esentially a 4-5 hour sporting event. For that matter, no matter what thier job is.

I am really starting to get fed up with this shit in all of sports. It is too the point where a fan cannot even afford to go to a game, or by team merchandice without spending a fortune. I live in Texas, I am a Jet fan, and to watch the games on TV, it would cost me $294 to get the NFL Package to watch just the Jet games. Or whatever to go to a sports bar. To get a nice JETS Polo, it will cost at least $75. If I wanted to go to the game in Denver, $750 for seats on the sideline with the Jets....I cant afford all this shit, and this guy wants more money.......
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WE are brothers on this topic. I am doing the ATT bundle with direct TV . I feel for you . elitist/corporate one worlders are scum.
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Posted 03 August 2010 - 07:58 PM

[quote name='FlyHiJets' date='03 August 2010 - 05:03 PM' timestamp='1280873011' post='307022']
Where is the team being greedy with this in your opinion? The JETS have offered him a contract in excess of 100 million dollars & he scoffed at it. That is ridiculous. Revis is a shut down corner. He's proven that but who's to say that once he gets his payday, he doesn't take it easy? Revis isnt being painted as anything by the Jets. If he's seeing a picture or portait of himself as being greedy, he's looking in the mirror.
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Uh...because the teams make way more money than the whole team. JSOTF was complaining about the players making too much and it isn't like the team is a non-for-profit organization working just for our entertainment. If teams hadn't strong armed players in the early days of the league, who knows, the players might not have banded together into such a strong union and be so willing to pull things like this.

I just think it's funny how the owners and GMs always sit there and roll their eyes like the players are the League of Evil and the NFL owners are the Justice League. Everyone involved is greedy, period. And the fans are greedy because half of them expect a twelve win finish every year.
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Posted 03 August 2010 - 08:23 PM

IMO let this greedy SOB play out his current contract and pay everyone else. If this greedy bastard starts to sand bag it
he will have to answer to Bart and the rest of the team . Then slap the tag on him after that .

Other wise sit the f--k out and we will have to move Cro or Wilson over and sighn a stop gap corner.

I did like Revis but he is not going to single handily break my team up . Other teams have won a super bowl without his GREEDY ASS .

Sighn the F----n contract. It's second only to ASO's and look at where the Raiders are.
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Posted 03 August 2010 - 08:23 PM

[quote name='FlyHiJets' date='03 August 2010 - 05:50 PM' timestamp='1280872201' post='307020']
Once it starts hitting Revis in the wallet, he'll sign and show up in camp. He's looking real bad with the refusal to even meet face to face for talks. He's doing nothing but hurting himself and whoever is advising him to keep his stance is a class A moron.

Sign Mangold & Harris and let Revis do his thing by sitting and hurting himself even more. Hopefully Kyle Wilson is progressing nicely.
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But thats sort of the pt, he won't be hurt in the wallet. the 16K a day fine is nothing when he expects to get paid about $15 million a season. the only real way i see this ending, assuming we are willing to part with mangold and harris and maybe braylon, cro, and holmes, is to give him what he wants. However if we want to make the smart play and sign all those guys instead, trade his selfish ass. Then he can be just like his uncle who made his money on a different team and then his career went nowhere. I hope we send this prima donna to the redskins or even the Raiders for two 1st rounders and let him rot under the senile Al Davis.
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Posted 03 August 2010 - 09:01 PM

[quote name='FroNTROw50yRdLyNe' date='03 August 2010 - 09:23 PM' timestamp='1280885011' post='307046']
But thats sort of the pt, he won't be hurt in the wallet. the 16K a day fine is nothing when he expects to get paid about $15 million a season. the only real way i see this ending, assuming we are willing to part with mangold and harris and maybe braylon, cro, and holmes, is to give him what he wants. However if we want to make the smart play and sign all those guys instead, trade his selfish ass. Then he can be just like his uncle who made his money on a different team and then his career went nowhere. I hope we send this prima donna to the redskins or even the Raiders for two 1st rounders and let him rot under the senile Al Davis.
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OR the Jets can just let him sit out. He pays his fines, how long is he really gonna hold out? The whole year? Fine. Next year pick up the first year of the guarantee that was voided. Let him come back and play or he can sit out again. Whatever we do, don't trade him. He can sit there and not sign and continue to pay the fines. We have him for 3 years. After the contract expires, franchise him. Why should management give in?
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Posted 03 August 2010 - 09:03 PM

That was my 1000th post on this site! :banana011: Took long enough lol. I really wasn't expecting it to be one complaining about a Jet and his contract. :Furious:
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Posted 03 August 2010 - 09:08 PM

[quote name='Chaos' date='03 August 2010 - 10:01 PM' timestamp='1280887298' post='307050']
OR the Jets can just let him sit out. He pays his fines, how long is he really gonna hold out? The whole year? Fine. Next year pick up the first year of the guarantee that was voided. Let him come back and play or he can sit out again. Whatever we do, don't trade him. He can sit there and not sign and continue to pay the fines. We have him for 3 years. After the contract expires, franchise him. Why should management give in?
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Its not giving in, its making the smart investment choice. economically speaking, its an enormous waste of assets to let him sit on the bench in what is supposed to be our super bowl year. so trade his ass, maybe we make it to the sb, maybe we don't, but NEXT year, after they agree on a new cba, which is gonna happen, we'll come into the 2011 season with two 1st round picks, a rookie salary cap, and at this point have signed all our players, or at least the ones we want, and can make real runs at the sb for years to come. we don't need revis, although it would be great if he was playing.
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Posted 03 August 2010 - 09:17 PM

[quote name='FroNTROw50yRdLyNe' date='03 August 2010 - 10:08 PM' timestamp='1280887700' post='307052']
Its not giving in, its making the smart investment choice. economically speaking, its an enormous waste of assets to let him sit on the bench in what is supposed to be our super bowl year. so trade his ass, maybe we make it to the sb, maybe we don't, but NEXT year, after they agree on a new cba, which is gonna happen, we'll come into the 2011 season with two 1st round picks, a rookie salary cap, and at this point have signed all our players, or at least the ones we want, and can make real runs at the sb for years to come. we don't need revis, although it would be great if he was playing.
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Can't argue with that logic. I don't think there is any need to trade him now. He's a very talented player who any team will want. We might as well hold onto him at least for this year and try to get a contact worked out. If no progress is made, trade him come the end of the season. With a lockout looming, hopefully he'll be forced to sign for less than Asomugha's contract on another team.
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