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Posted 06 August 2010 - 11:48 PM

Per Jenkins this afternoon on 1050 ESPN

Jenkins and Revis exchanged text messages yesterday. Revis thinks things can be worked out shortly and he'll be able to report shortly.
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Posted 07 August 2010 - 05:04 AM

I think it's more Revis's handlers that are the cause for all this than Revis himself.
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You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.
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Posted 07 August 2010 - 09:49 AM

[quote name='Mr_Jet' date='07 August 2010 - 06:04 AM' timestamp='1281175443' post='307327']
I think it's more Revis's handlers that are the cause for all this than Revis himself.
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Agreed, hes just listening to his people who are telling him what he needs to do to get paid. That is why I can't get mad at Revis, because I know who his agent is and the tatics his clients have used before.
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Posted 07 August 2010 - 11:52 AM

[quote name='Mr_Jet' date='07 August 2010 - 06:04 AM' timestamp='1281175443' post='307327']
I think it's more Revis's handlers that are the cause for all this than Revis himself.
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Absolutely. You know how it goes... Revis surrounded himself with a team of "advisers". All of them are trying to prove their worth by interjecting. Eventually, Revis will sign and go on to play.
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Posted 07 August 2010 - 12:35 PM

Its obviously his fault! Its his people! He picks em, and if he doesn't, then his manager sucks. But if its managers call,then again its revis fault for having a shitty manager. All holdouts are up to the players alone. The only guy playing is him,at anytime a player who is holding out can come back. He is choosing not to. I still wanna trade him! What's to say he's voted defensive mvp and chooses to hold out again??
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Posted 07 August 2010 - 01:49 PM

[quote name='FroNTROw50yRdLyNe' date='07 August 2010 - 01:35 PM' timestamp='1281202520' post='307359']
Its obviously his fault! Its his people! He picks em, and if he doesn't, then his manager sucks. But if its managers call,then again its revis fault for having a shitty manager. All holdouts are up to the players alone. The only guy playing is him,at anytime a player who is holding out can come back. He is choosing not to. I still wanna trade him! What's to say he's voted defensive mvp and chooses to hold out again??
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I agree. He's a grown man. He surrounded himself with these people, and at the end of the day if his agent tells him he should hold out, all he has to say to him is "no I'm going to report"

It isn't like his agent would stop working on the contract. He's going to see a big chunk of cash regardless.

Not to mention every agent in the business would be willing to pick up Revis as a client if his agent backed out because Revis didn't listen.
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Posted 07 August 2010 - 02:04 PM

[quote name='Jetsfan0099' date='07 August 2010 - 10:49 AM' timestamp='1281192544' post='307339']
Agreed, hes just listening to his people who are telling him what he needs to do to get paid. That is why I can't get mad at Revis, because I know who his agent is and the tatics his clients have used before.
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Come on, Revis is an adult. At this stage of his life, he should be able to decide for himself whether he's willing to take a paycut and play for a winning team or demand to make the most money at his position and play for the Raiders.
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Posted 07 August 2010 - 03:06 PM

You don't pick family and Leon Washington reaching out to him about how he went out there being the good player and injures himself never getting a contract, now off the team.
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Posted 07 August 2010 - 03:43 PM

[quote name='Jetsfan0099' date='07 August 2010 - 04:06 PM' timestamp='1281211604' post='307374']
You don't pick family and Leon Washington reaching out to him about how he went out there being the good player and injures himself never getting a contract, now off the team.
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But you are trying to make the point that this isn't Revis fault because "of the people around him telling him what to do"

You made it sound like, if it wasn't for them he WOULD be in camp.

He is an adult, a grown man, if these people have as much as influence over him as we're led to believe... then there is something wrong.
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Posted 07 August 2010 - 03:58 PM

Its a business and in his best interest to sit out until a deal is struck.. Revis doesn't deal with the contracts, that is why he has a agent, his agent tells him what the best thing for him to do is to get a deal and what he needs. Then you have Sean Gilbert influencing him and Leon Washington...
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Posted 07 August 2010 - 05:20 PM

He has advisers, that's it. It's on him to actually make the decisions. Everybody who is influencing him (friends, agent, manager, etc.) stands to greatly improve their own position by making him the highest paid CB in the league. If he cares about the team more than his entourage, he will take less than Aso.
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Posted 07 August 2010 - 05:32 PM

[quote name='VaNDelaYInDusTrIEs' date='07 August 2010 - 06:20 PM' timestamp='1281219636' post='307381']
He has advisers, that's it. It's on him to actually make the decisions. Everybody who is influencing him (friends, agent, manager, etc.) stands to greatly improve their own position by making him the highest paid CB in the league. If he cares about the team more than his entourage, he will take less than Aso.
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Right on.

He is a GROWN man. I don't care who is telling him what to do. Grown men do what THEY feel is right.

Revis HIMSELF thinks sitting out is the right thing to do. Lets not act like its his agents fault.
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Posted 07 August 2010 - 08:16 PM

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You don't pick family and Leon Washington reaching out to him about how he went out there being the good player and injures himself never getting a contract, now off the team.
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Will everybody get off the whole Leon Washington bullshit already? Leon fucked Leon. He was offered fair market value and turned it down before getting hurt. Stop the crying already. Did Jenks get booted after being injured? Did Vinny Testaverde get screwed and traded after his achilles tear? As for Revis being afraid of injury causing him to lose money, it's already been reported that Tanny placed injury safeguards/guarantees in the offers and Revis still turned it down. He wants ALL of his money guaranteed. If the team does that, they're retarded.

As for Revis not being able to choose family, you're right about that, but you can choose who you want to be bothered with and that DOES include family.
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Posted 07 August 2010 - 08:24 PM

[quote name='FlyHiJets' date='07 August 2010 - 09:16 PM' timestamp='1281230172' post='307390']
Will everybody get off the whole Leon Washington bullshit already? Leon fucked Leon. He was offered fair market value and turned it down before getting hurt. Stop the crying already. Did Jenks get booted after being injured? Did Vinny Testaverde get screwed and traded after his achilles tear? As for Revis being afraid of injury causing him to lose money, it's already been reported that Tanny placed injury safeguards/guarantees in the offers and Revis still turned it down. He wants ALL of his money guaranteed. If the team does that, they're retarded.

As for Revis not being able to choose family, you're right about that, but you can choose who you want to be bothered with and that DOES include family.
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Those players were under contract and not seeking new deals, Washington and Revis are seeking new deals and injuries hurt their value. Though Revis has 3 years left, but they promised him a new deal and he wants to get what hes valued at.
And Revis does not want all of his money guaranteed, no one gets all of their money guaranteed.

No one here has been in the position of these guys, anyone here been the best CB in the league and was promised a new deal in a business where millions are on the line? Nope, its the business and people can't take this that he isn't about the team because hes doing what their told to do to get the contract done which involves millions of dollars. I'm not going to forget what Revis has done for this team on the field and what hes going to do for us in the future.
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Posted 07 August 2010 - 08:49 PM

"He's a grown man," "he needs to think for himself," Blah blah blah. Spoken like true fans. You guys need to really stop acting like the sky is falling and chill out. He'll get tired of all this and take the offer Tanny has already put on the table and the hold out will be over. Let's say he decided okay I'll come to camp while the contract is being negotiated then he gets injured like Elvis Dumervill where he misses the entire season and then goes into next season where there will be a less favorable CBA to the players. I wonder what you guys would be saying then? "Sucks to be you Darelle"?

I believe he already likes one of the offers already on the table, he's just being told he can get more [b]BY THE PEOPLE HE PAYS TO HANDLE THESE MATTERS[/b]. So he is holding out and waiting to see if he can get more out of the Jets. They'll hold their ground, Revis will say okay they're not going any higher so let's take their best offer, he signs and goes to camp. We all know (or at least you should know) you never sell your stock before seeing if it will go any higher. But all this "trade his greedy ass" talk is full of shit. It's not even September yet but some of you guys are panicking like your girlfriend just told you she's late. RELAX! This isn't Tanny's first day or first year on the job. It'll be okay, Revis will sign and we all can go back to blowing smoke up his ass again.
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You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.
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Posted 07 August 2010 - 08:53 PM

[quote name='Jetsfan0099' date='07 August 2010 - 09:24 PM' timestamp='1281230649' post='307392']
Those players were under contract and not seeking new deals, Washington and Revis are seeking new deals and injuries hurt their value. Though Revis has 3 years left, but they promised him a new deal and he wants to get what hes valued at.
And Revis does not want all of his money guaranteed, no one gets all of their money guaranteed.

No one here has been in the position of these guys, anyone here been the best CB in the league and was promised a new deal in a business where millions are on the line? Nope, its the business and people can't take this that he isn't about the team because hes doing what their told to do to get the contract done which involves millions of dollars. I'm not going to forget what Revis has done for this team on the field and what hes going to do for us in the future.
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Okay. Revis has done his thing for the last couple years & was told he'd get a new deal. He's been offered a new deal numerous times over, but greedy little bitch ass keeps turning them down. He was never promised to be the highest paid CB ever. He's reportedly turned down offers of MORE THAN 100 million dollars.

How can we take this as anything other than NOT being about the team? Are you SERIOUSLY saying that his holding out doesn't affect the team or that this his holding out would help the team in ANY way? This is DEFINITELY him NOT being about the team. He's out for himself and not the team. I dont see the team saying they all want to be the highest paid at their individual positions. Hell.....we had the #1 overall Defense int he league last year. That means they were the best in the league. Does that mean they should ALL be the highest paid? By your way of thinking that because he was the best at his position last season, he should be the highest paid.

As for what he's going to do for us in the future......no one knows. Once he gets his payday with all the guaranteed money he wants, he could lay an egg or just lay off. He obviously doesnt give a shit about getting a Superbowl ring considering he's more concerned with his individual money over the team's ability to sign everyone they need to and accept a fair market value contract for himself. Come on.....even Ochocinco volunteered to help pay his ridiculous demands. Darelle Revis went from being the best CB in the league to being a laughing stock. And btw.....you mentioned that Jenkins & Vinny were still under contract. Revis is also still under contract for another 3 years.
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Posted 07 August 2010 - 09:06 PM

Guess you didn't see in my post where I mentioned Revis having 3 years left, but he was PROMISED a new deal and hes still on his rookie deal which they were not, hes in negotiations which they weren't, which is my point. Injuries happen, but when you are in negotiations for a big pay day and then he plays good solider and blows out his knee, there goes that money.

And no the entire team shouldn't be asking to be paid the highest, because they aren't the best at what they do. Revis is the best in the league at what he does, hes a true shutdown CB which is valued high. And he never reportedly declined 100 million, it was rumored that the Jets MAY be willing to go to that, but that was never declared that the Jets offered that or that he declined it.

The holding out doesn't help the team, well besides keeping our best player healthy, but I don't see how it hurts us at this point. It depends on how long he holds out, like other Jets players said, if it was say Mark Sanchez holding out it would hurt the team badly, but Revis doesn't because of his position. So as of now, its not hurting the team as long as he gets here in good time to get ready.

There are no guarantees, but Revis doesn't seem like the type that gets the paycheck than stops trying. Hes a competitive player and wants to be the greatest ever at his position, he has that drive that the greats have, I would bet on Revis.

The only other player that should be the highest at their position is Nick Mangold. I'm just saying I'm not going to hate the guy because hes trying to take care of himself in a BUSINESS, he knows what hes worth and hes trying to get it. He definitely deserves to be the highest paid and there WERE rumors that the Jets told him they would make him the highest paid, Tannenbaum wouldn't answer this one way or another, just that the Jets did go to him to get a new deal.

Revis is a star player, get over it, no way is he a laughing stock. All the players are supporting him, hell even Champ Bailey came out in support and said Revis is doing the right thing and should be paid as hes the best.

Not even like the Leon situation, where he was a back up RB which is easily replaceable. Revis is a shutdown CB which is not easily replaceable, especially for what he did for this defense last year. You aren't finding another Darrelle Revis, which is why I find it hilarious when some fans say to trade Revis.
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Posted 07 August 2010 - 09:28 PM

[quote name='Jetsfan0099' date='07 August 2010 - 10:06 PM' timestamp='1281233168' post='307398']
Guess you didn't see in my post where I mentioned Revis having 3 years left, but he was PROMISED a new deal and hes still on his rookie deal which they were not, hes in negotiations which they weren't, which is my point. Injuries happen, but when you are in negotiations for a big pay day and then he plays good solider and blows out his knee, there goes that money.

And no the entire team shouldn't be asking to be paid the highest, because they aren't the best at what they do. Revis is the best in the league at what he does, hes a true shutdown CB which is valued high. And he never reportedly declined 100 million, it was rumored that the Jets MAY be willing to go to that, but that was never declared that the Jets offered that or that he declined it.

Revis is a star player, get over it, no way is he a laughing stock. All the players are supporting him, hell even Champ Bailey came out in support and said Revis is doing the right thing and should be paid as hes the best.[/quote]

Let's agree to disagree on a couple of your points such as Revis being a laughing stock.

When you have other players in the league offering to assist in paying your ridiculous contract demands, that is considered to be laughable and does make someone a laughing stock in my opinion. Also, when fans of even basketball are using his name in contract talks for players in other sports with lines such as "dont want him (Stoudemire) to become the Darelle Revis of the NY Knicks", that's pretty sad.

As for the reportedly offered 100 million being declined, do a google search and you'll get roughly 7000 hits. Also, look back to page 3 of the "All This Revis" thread where this is reported.

"Johnson reiterated that the team has offered both a long-term deal and a short-term "Band-Aid" solution. Rich Cimini of ESPNNewYork.com reports that the long-term deal included total compensation in excess of $100 million. The "Band-Aid" would have paid Revis more than his current $1 million salary in 2010, but less than the $5.3 million they'll pay left tackle D'Brickashaw Ferguson this year."

My bad but I think ESPNNewYork.com and Rich Cimini who has been a Jets reporter for how long would count as reporting that Revis turning it down would count.

You said that the entire defense wouldnt deserve to be paid because they're not the best at what they do. Please explain to me how they're not the best at what they do when collectively they were the #1 defense in the league last year. Wouldnt that make them the best at what they did last year? I know that it would be ridiculous to pay everyone on the defense what they'd want but the suggestion is to show that its just as ridiculous to pay Revis more than 15.1 million per year like he wants. No CB in the league deserves that kind of money. I dont care who they are. Revis had one shut down year and another where he was very good. Two years does not demand top CB salary in the history of the league.
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Posted 07 August 2010 - 09:52 PM

Players get paid based on individual performance, not team performance. So no it wouldn't make them as individual's the best at what they do. Revis is the best at what he does, so he should be paid as such. Revis has had 2 all pro type seasons in 3 years in the league, the guy is great and baring injury will continue to be great. And in 2008 he was the only guy in our secondary that was worth a damn.
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